Am I the only 1 that thinks this guy is a bust? We're from the same city and I saw what he should be and thats a 15-18 point scorer with 6 boards and lock down defense. But he looks lost and only wants to stand in corners and shoot 3's. He let Jones do what he's suppose to be doing and Jones is even scoring more and Brandon's a way better scorer than this guy. I just feel like he doesnt have the heart to be what he was suppose to be he was even that way at KU. What do you guys think of him and what he could be?
It's too early to call him a bust. I mean, it's only his 2nd year in the league. I've been to damn near every home game since he was drafted and the potential is there. I think he has the potential to be a solid 3rd option and very good defender. Dahntay Jones has played well offensively this season and the coaching staff has played with Brandon's PT a little. O'Brien has him on a short leash, especially now that Dunleavy is back. O'Brien has played with both Rush and Hibbert's PT in favor of veteran players.
When he learns to play more aggressive, I think he'll reach his potential. Be patient.
He is too passive thats what his main problem has been for a while he could do a lot more than what he does some games he will tease you with his talent then he will just look totally lost another game
Yeah, he is inconsistant, but I feel a lot of people think he is a scorer, but in reality I agree with tezo, his role in the NBA will be primarily a defender who hits his open jumpers. beanz, I'm from Lawrence, so I watched pretty much all of his college games, and he never really developed into a take over offensive player like a lot of people thought he would out of high school. He averaged 13ppg every year in college and rarely wanted the ball in his hands in cruch time ( Mario Chalmers was their clutch guy ) pair with his length and athleticism he played his way into the lottery by becoming a very good defender, and in my opinion did about as good of job guarding Kevin Durant as anyone in the Big 12 did that year. I've followed his NBA career and I wouldn't call him a bust yet either, but I am shocked on how poorly he is shooting this year, he is a much better shooter than his numbers would indicate. He's done pretty well in Granger's absense and maybe with a little more pt his confidence will rise.
all im saying is even before he came to kansas and played highschool in kansas city b4 he left he wasnt playing up to his potential. when he got to kansas bill self wanted him to take over from day 1 but he played his whole college career being very passive with big game here and there. he has the talent to be a very good 3rd option or a good second option its like he's not trying to be better he hasnt worked on his handles or mid range game plus he seems to just be happy to be in the league instead of making a name for himself. I just hat it because the brother with the most heart and desire to be good never made it because of a drinking problem and brandon and kareem are just cool with being there I cant stand player like that you should want to become the best you can be at that level its like they just work to make it then just get comfortable
JoeWolf1 is EXACTLY right in everything he said.....If you expect Rush to be a big scoring threat, then yea. You might as well write him off. He's too bad a shot-creator to be a big scoring threat, other than shooting spot up shots. His real value comes in his defensive potential. He has the potential to be one of the very best defenders in the NBA, with all his physical tools and he's already on his way.
a bust? its way too early and its not like he is a bum. the word potential is a scary word. basically any one who is athletic and and has a lil skill is considered to have alot of potential and dont let them be tall as well. the fact is sometimes the expectations are unreasonable or there ability is not as good as what some people expect it should or will be which can cause the player to be labeled a bust. im not saying bradon is one of those players but some players are who they are. they are as good as they are gonna be or as good as they can be. or you can look at it as most players dont ever reach there potential because how many players have had the work ethic of micheal jordan or play as hard as tyler hansboro?
their team is good but everyone of their players is completely and ridiculously overrated and overhyped and to put it bluntly they're all trash..not saying anything about cole aldrich but the rest of these clowns have been garbage
mario chalmers-below average PG is best fit as a backup, very little scoring abilities...average at best
darrell arthur-injur prone and no offense in his game
brandon rush-just wants to be a bench player that shoots 3's...no drive
julian wright-whats there to say about julian wright? he's the 11th man on one of the worst teams in the NBA
Yeah if we are going to talk about a Kansas player then Julian Wright is the Bust.
Don't forget about Hinrich...he is garbage too haha (sorry I couldn't resist). Chicago please trade him.
i think chalmers could do more but you have to remeber he is playing with wade who has the ball in his hands most the time. i think mario is doing what they need him to do. now if he was on another team without a ball dominate 2guard and putting up the numbers that he's putting up then i might think differently. i dont see how hes overrated seeing as where he was drafted and is a starter. i never thought julian was as good as people thought though reminded me of darius miles. i also thought arthur should have stayed another year and not really impressed with im. i guess i just dont agree with you about mario. wasnt he a second rounder
shoud not have used bust but he isnt developing at all he's the same player he was last year
i wouldn't say bust at all. He was drafted around the midlle of the first round and his expectations from most seemed to be a solid nba player who could hit shots, defend, and occasionally create something off the dribble. So far, it seems that is exactly what he is doing. If you were expecting 20 a game or something, then maybe your expectations were too high. He looks just like I thought he would in the nba.
I knew he would be a bust just by watching him play in the NCAA tournament. I was not impressed to the slightest degree as his shots were not falling, and he looked downright lost at some points in the game. He looked like he was just an athlete with no dribbling ability or basketball i.q. I was very suprised when he was traded for Bayless on draft night, too. Bayless would be great on the Pacers right now. Also, Rush hasn't gotten ANY BETTER since he entered the league. He is the exact same player as he was during his Kansas days. Unfortunately it looks like he might get lost on the Pacers with the emergance of Dahntay Jones and the return of Mike Dunleavy, Jr.
i wouldnt call him a bust yet but look at his family in the NBA. Kareem is in and out of the league, and jaron was an awful college player and nba player. So mainly what hes got goin for him is his defense. and i believe he dropped 25 on UNC in the final four i wouldnt say he looked lost my friend.
personally i dont think Hinrich is a bust hes one of the best defenders in the league and has always been good just spent mos of his career with Ben hogging the ball and now Rose starting. he could be even better somewhere else. honestly what Kirk is is what Chalmers will be like his whole career an amazing defender put hes not gonna put up fantastic numbers with Wade because hes so ball dominant.
Hinrich is very solid. He could be about 15 points and 7 assists as a starter with very good defense and leadership. He is not the problem with CHicago.
We have to wait for 4-5 years before we ever call someone a bust... Brandon Rush is in his second year and has played inconsistently. Let's cut him some slack... For all I know, he's not going to be a 25 ppg scorer in the L but he's got great tools to be a very solid defender who can hit shots when it matters... Shane Battier-type of role... Too early to call him a bust...geez
birdzilla- I wasn't necessarily calling Hinrich a bust. He had some good moments in the league. This year though he has been pathetic...that is why I was bashing him. I think Chalmers is better than Hinrich at this point in time.
llperez- I disagree...I think Hinrich is definitely one of the Bulls' problems. For one he is overpaid. The main reason though is he shoots bricks...33%FG, 28% 3 point. His PER is 6.7 which is way below the league average.
Also Hinrich is a good defender but he isn't great like so many people on here say. Last game I saw he got abused by Jamal Crawford.
gatorheels, i didn't realize his numbers were that bad this year. But he also had a terrible game the other day coming off the injury. You can't assume that is his value just based on this year. He was terrific last season and was huge in the playoffs gaurding Pierce and he always has the confidence to take and make the big shots. He is slightly overpaid only because he was given that contract with the thought of him being a starter. Now he is coming off the bench and the money is not bench player worthy. Also, Kirk needs the ball in his hands and needs to run the offense to be his best. He is not a Ben Gordon type who can just come in and jack up shots and really be his best that way.
I think Chicago needs to fire Del Negro. He had zero coaching experiece before he got the head job with chicago wich is almost unheard of. This team is quitting on him and it clearly has more talent then they are showing. Also, Rose needs to play better, the wings are only average and the bigs bring nothing in terms of post play. So basically if they don't get quick baskets or someone catches fire, they are a bucnh of guys standing around wondering who's gonna take the shot. And if the answer is Salmons more often then not, then that's not good.
wasnt this the same thing that was happening with chicago wit the coach before vinny?..starting to think its the players not the coach
Yea, this is similar to what happened to Scott Skiles...to me it has more to do with a lack of scorers on both the perimeter and in the frontline....Del Negro deserves to finish the season and at least the 1st or possibly 2nd quarter of next year.
difference is that skiles was a head coach before and worked his way up to head coach before that. Del Negro never assisted coach so much as a highschool basketball game. So when things look bad early on, it's much easier to assume that he needs to go and is not getting the job done.
I wouldn't be surprised if Del Negro gets fired very soon. I scratched my head when they hired him considering he didn't have any coaching experience. If they were going to hire somebody with no coaching experience, they should've hired Mark Jackson.
With that being said... I have to agree with Quincey. I think it's the players, not the coaches. Del Negro doesn't have a lot of experience and doesn't have the best sets, but this can't be blamed on him alone. This team just doesn't have pieces that fit together. I have a feeling this team is about to undergo a lot of changes.
Del Negro was one of my dad's favorite players... But I was secretly rooting for the Bulls to take Jeff Hornacek as their coach even though he himself has no coaching experience...
ha fizer, what are u doing up at this time? And being a bulls fan, what do you think about Del Negro being the coach.
LOL... Yeah... He did a solid job last year because he was guided by assistant coaches who have 400 years of coaching experience in Del Harris and Bernie Bickerstaff... Though, it's a bit overrated because in the end, it's still Del Negro's call as a coach but those two guys really helped him alot... I think he's a bit passive IMO... He's not motivating his players well enough and it reflects in their standings... I'm still patient and if I were Gar Forman, I'd still like to see what Del Negro can do... He's all talk and can't back it up during the game...(sigh)
coaches will always get the blame when a team isnt doing well but the fact is the bulls arent that good. i wish some owners would realize that liek the jazz owner used to. he stayed with sloan when they weren't winning because he realized that he didnt have the talent or the right mix of players to win. when vinny had ben last year you see how well they did and that was without deng. so i think he can gt the job doen but he needs players
Since seeing an increased role with Granger being out he is playing up to expectiations of a defensive player who hits his open shots as a 3rd or 4th option. In the last 5 games alone he has averaged 9.8 ppg 3.8 rpg 1 bpg and 1spg while shooting 9-17 from 3 point range and 19-39 from the feild. I don't think he is a bust, I just think a lot of people mis-scouted him and had the wrong impression on what he would do in the NBA.