It was said that Kobe does not make his teammates better than I thought about it and I am like Ariza was a throw in
and now he is starter and somewhat go to guy for Houston after two years with the Lakers. Shannon Brown was a throw in player in that bobcats and yet you see how he is developing to being a relevant player after almost falling off the map. You can see some part of Kobe's game in Luke Walton's post moves and he was a former 2nd rounder with not much offense to his game. Pau Gasol has played harder and tougher with the Lakers. I am sure that there are other instances where Lakers players have shown Kobe's influence that would make you wonder now if he making his teammates better. I think yes.
who says these players didn't make themselves better because the work on their game in the off-season? You see stats improve when you get fastbreak points because of the Lakers defense. If anything, that is why they are better.
he makes a good point team culture and player chemistry has alot to do with it and to tell the truth i think ariza is playing like he is known because the culture he got from the lakers being motivated to work harder to be apart of nba history oh and not to mention rick is doing a great job out in houston they might be playing better without yao and t mac ...Rick will have alot of gms coming after him once his contract is up
All good players make their teammates better and KB24 is no exception
so by your thinking Allen Iverson, Zach Randolph, Latrel Sprewell, Ricky Davis, and Monta Ellis all make their teammates better??? NO!
Today he was 0/9 and had 1 point one rebound
Do you really have any hard evidence that kobe was the one that taught these guys how to be better, or is it just speculation? Maybe it was Phil, or the assistant coaches, maybe it was their own modivation, maybe they have their skills highlighted in the triangle, maybe they play harder for a winning team...
To put it all on Kobe is a little absurd and very fanboy like, you're better then that Sheltwon.
If your gonna play with the best player in the world in practice every day of the week eventually you are gonna get better. The thing is Kobe works so hard on his game which would rub of on the rest of the team which helps them imprve there own game
fastdan-you wonder if he has "hard evedince" for Kobe making his teammates better? What is "hard evedince" for that? Canyou produce for me hard evedince that Jordan made his teammates better? Or that LeBron does? Maybe guys like Shaq, Devean Geoarge, Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, CHris Mihm, Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Shannon Brown etc. playing their best career ball is/isn't evidence. Regardless, it was Sheltwon's opinion and you call him a fanboy for saying that? And he never said Kobe was the only reason those guys played better. He just Kobe made them better and you assumed he said that there were no other factors only Kobe.
Actually there has been information presented that Ariza and Kobe worked out together and Ariza was encourage by Kobe to shoot more. Also I watched Luke Walton's inside game and his moves which he did not have in college seem similiar to Kobe's inside moves. I dont have any hard evidence on Brown but you can tell what guys Kobe likes by how he endorses them and Brown seems to be one of Kobe's guys. I am not a fanboy by any means. Players like Farmar who he does not endorse have really not improved as much in the same amount of time. Also about Ariza's bad game. Every players has a bad game. Kobe had a bad game against Utah. He may have scored some because he took like 24 shots and only made like 7 which means he missed about 16 shots.