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What team do you think John Wall would fit with best?

What team do you think needs Wall the most and he fits into best? I think a great situation for him would be Philly. Imagine having a backcourt of Williams and Wall? It would allow Louis to do what he does best (score) and in a fast offense like them he would thrive. And if AI came back and accepted a backup role they would be explosive. Even if AI has to start Louis could still be a 6th man.

PG-Wall,AI
SG- Louis, Green
SF-Iggy, Young
PF-Brand,filler
C-Sammy(if still there), Spreights

That looks like a playoff easily. What do you guys think?


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Hm

I personally think Philly would be a horrible fit for him...Philly has plenty of talent they just need to let it develop and get rid of Brand and Sammy D.

Someone said a few days ago, and I must agree. The Pacers are far and away the best fit in my opinion.

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Man, John Wall gets a ton of

Man, John Wall gets a ton of love here..............

To answer the question though, I think it would be the the Knicks.

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i actually like the knicks

i actually like the knicks idea..i know they are hurting( first not drafting jennings and ow not having a chance to draft wall)..but how about wall it the clippers??no matter who they draft they have someone at that position(even sf..thortan is up and down but he is better then any sf who would come out as far as immidiate help)

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Its 100 percent the

Its 100 percent the Knicks....hes a star who likes the spotlight, they have the worst PG situation in the NBA, and would be playing in an up tempo system

This is when the wrath of Isiah Thomas really hits us....even if we wanted to trade up we cant offer a number 3 or 4 overall to include with Wilson Chandler and another young player

When you look at his moves, its hard not to think he is the worst executive in all of sports

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Ok

Well if we're talking in a perfect world...doesnt almost everyone not over 285 pounds and can run the court fit best in a run and gun, D'Antoni style offense? I thought we meant as in, between the lottery bound teams, what would be best for John Wall...I would say Indiana Pacers as they have the biggest need for a PG and not too much talent around him to where he'd just be deferring to veterans and such. That was my point.

Obviously he'd look great as a Knick but guess what guys? NY doesn't even have a pick! Ouch

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actually has anyone seen the

actually has anyone seen the list of players isah has drafted?..it was on hoopshype or hoopsworld.com. he drafted some pretty good player..hes good at evaluating college talent. not so good at trades

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or signings

trust me, i know

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Best Team..

I honestly think that the best team for John Wall would be New York because Chris Duhon truly isn't doing it for them. It's too bad that they don't have their first round pick this year. It'll be interesting to see what Minnisota or New Jersey does with the 1st overall pick.

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Chicago.

I think he'll be a great addition to Chicago. Derrick and John can play that Point Guard combination. Only problem, Bulls will need to sign Chris Bosh.

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Thomas is and has a good eye

Thomas is and has a good eye for talent but he does not know how to put a team together and i guess his ego works against him in this because if he just paired himself with a scout or personell who had chemistry on lock the Knicks would be an incredibily deep talented and young team instead of the mismatch they are now. Issaih did help a lot of franchise's like say the the Suns and Larry Brown helped Ariza and the Lakers for forcing that trade to Orlando because Orlando basically gave up Ariza because they could not use him.

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I meant in the draft

So yeah....

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sixers

As the original post stated, he would be a great pick for the Sixers. Then try to trade either Lou or Jrue for a good young big man, then draft a solid SG wit our 2nd round and we got ourselves a bright future.

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LouWill showed that he could

LouWill showed that he could be a pretty solid starting pg, and Philly seems not not like elton or sammyd, so I couldn't see them passing on Aldrich...he could be really good in the princeton

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LouWill showed that he could

LouWill showed that he could be a pretty solid starting pg, and Philly seems not not like elton or sammyd, so I couldn't see them passing on Aldrich...he could be really good in the princeton

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id say the Clippers with all

id say the Clippers with all the talent there allready Gordon and Blake he could step in to that offense and not only score but be a floorleader be a true point guard for that team and hes a good defender too.

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In your dreams..

I love how NY KNICKERBOCKER fans even bother talking about John Wall...

The Knicks gave their 2010 1st round pick away to Utah. Last I checked, John Wall won't be sliding to the second round. Don't waste people's time with your "dream" posts, NYK fans.

Back to reality:

Of the teams even ELIGIBLE to draft Wall, the best situation would be the Magic. John Wall and Dwight Howard would win many many championships together.

But considering the Magic will make the playoffs and probably even have the best overall record in the league this season, they won't be in the running.

Lets break up the list of potentially "ELIGIBLE" teams and only talk about the best fit for Wall within LOTTERY bound teams.

LOTTERY bound teams and John Wall:

Chicago: Wall and Rose is a bad fit. Neither shoot well and are both ball handling dominant guards. Even if they could potentially compliment each other (who knows how their chemistry would work together) chances are they negate each other's strengths. A team like the Bulls need two things more than another athletic ball dominating lead guard--the Bulls need a post presence and outside shooting. Oh how Ben Gordon is laughing now... (or is he). Which brings me to:

Detroit: Rip Hamilton is out and Ben Gordon has been in and out with an ankle injury but despite that, Detroit has been playing rather inconsistent. They very well could make the playoffs but if they don't they are in the sweepstakes for Wall (even if they only have a small percent chance of landing him). So lets pretend Detroit gets the #1 pick. The WILL draft Wall regardless of the fact they have Will Bynum, Ben Gordon, Rodney Stuckey, and Chucky Atkins. Why? They wouldn't dare pass up on another superstar like they did by passing Carmelo, Dwyane, and Chris Bosh.

While Wall would be a good player for Detroit, with Rip Hamilton and Ben Gordon supplying an outside shooting presence, the truth is the Pistons need a dominant big man. And i doubt trading one (or some) of their current guards (besides Wall, remember they will not dare give up on him if they luckily land #1) could land them a dominant big man--so that puts the pistons on the short list of teams that wouldn't necessarily be a good fit for Wall. Truth is, any team could use Wall, but some teams could use him more than others.

LA: The Clippers would LOVE to have Wall. But Wall would probably end up breaking his leg, back, neck, or some other horrible curse of an accident. But if something actually went right for the Clippers (they have had a slew of talent throughout the last 10 years and haven't had the luck to really make it all work), the Clippers could really use Wall in the back court. Imagine John Wall with Eric Gordon!!?

With Baron Davis showing his age a John Wall upgrade would be significant. If Blake Griffin is as good as he was in college when he comes back, Eric Gordon, John Wall, and Blake Griffin would be an amazingly talented and athletic young trio. The Clippers are a great fit for John Wall.

Minnesota: Eh this is probably the worst place for Wall to end up. Even though Kevin Love would love to rebound and throw outlet passes to the fastest most athletic basketball player in the world, I have trouble thinking Minneapolis is a big enough market for Wall. I love Minneapolis, it's culturally progressive and actually one of the friendliest cities I have been to. I could be wrong about Wall and Minneapolis being a good fit but that marriage would prematurely push either Johnny Flynn and/or Ricky Rubio out the door.

What the Timberwolves need more is an offensively proficient wing player and/or a system guy like Cole Aldrich or a super athletic forward like Derrick Favors to allow either Kevin Love or Al Jefferson to flourish at the hybrid forward/center spot. I think they need to turn (trade) either Love or Al Jeff into a wing player or another high draft pick to get exactly the right complimentary players to create a complete team.

You can't have a team of point guards and smallish centers/power forwards. Something would have to budge if Minnesota pursued Wall. They have the assets but what they do with them is unforeseeable.

New York Knickerbockers..., I mean Utah Jazz: The Jazz fans couldn't love the Knicks any more for this pick. With Boozer nearly out the door and Milsap sealed up for the next few years, the Jazz would definetly like to build a team around Wall, Milsap and Deron Williams. Since there would be little chance that Williams would take the backseat to Wall, I am sure they would try and play them together.

Honestly, Cole Aldrich would be a better fit for Utah. I know Aldrich is having a poor junior season compared to his last two years but I am not sure if people know how good Aldrich could be. He is a more mobile version of Brook Lopez.

Anyway, lets keep the theme going and analyze how good the Jazz could be with John Wall. The Jazz would be good but they still need outside shooting and unless Brewer becomes a true outside threat their inconsistencies would still exist. Kyle Korver is a great shooter but his D is so bad that you cannot play Korver more than 20 minutes a game and still win. Mehmet is also a decent outside threat but he is truly showing he is on the decline. The Jazz need an upgrade in almost all positions EXCEPT for point guard but Williams is good enough to share the ball with someone like Wall. They wouldn't pass on Wall with the overall pick. Williams and Wall would have to learn to co-exist.

Golden State: ehhhh... this team is like the Clippers in the sense that they have had so much talent but only put it together for one season back in 2007.

Here are my thoughts when I think of the Warriors:

-They have alot of young talent. And one outstanding talent in Stephan Curry, but he hasn't put it all together yet (injuries don't help).

-I have no idea what type of player Anthony Randolph will become...

-Azuibuke looks good. Always has a good attitude too.

-The euro center guy they have is a decent rebounder--and I always see him atop the leagues best FG%.

-Turiaf gets dunked on--a lot

-Don Nelson is old.

-Should Don Nelson be coaching?

-Why is Don Nelson coaching?

-They need a new coach

-Good coaching is needed.

-Lawrence Frank is a good coach.

-If Stephen Jackson thinks something its disorganized... then wow...

-I'm not really sure who the vocal leader is on this team.

-Monta Ellis looks amazing sometimes but plays no defense. Someone that fast should really play defense.

As you can see, there are lots of questions.

And apparently the consensus on Monta is that he will be traded as he establishes a substantial market value. I don't know why you would trade your best player unless they absolutely thought he was more trouble than value...

Aynway, who knows what will happen. But lets assume Curry and Monta are still in a Warriors uniform--Wall would absolutely HATE playing with these two guards who need the ball in their hands and cannot play defense. The securing of John Wall in the draft would most likely signal the breakup of the current back court.

Wizards: Everyone said they were supposed to be the most improved team in the league. I was thinking how crazy everyone was since only Caron Butler can play defense on that team. Jamison and Arenas play pickup basketball very very well though, and are offensively phenomenal, but since Arenas' injury he has lost a step. The formula of simply out running players isn't working anymore for Agent 0.

John Wall would be an upgrade over Arenas but they would most likely have to share the back court. It could work. It would definitely allow Arenas to save his energy by playing in the slower paced two-guard position.

Washington DC would love to try this experiment--and in the long run I think Arenas would too for he would excel playing as a shooting guard now that he has lost a step. Either way the future of this team is Andray Blatch and Caron Butler and John Wall could fit well with those two easily.

Philadelphia: Honestly, Philadelphia doesn't need a point guard like Wall. They need a point guard like Jason Kidd (younger version), Steve Nash, Chris Paul, or Deron Williams. They have a lot of talent as it is but they need someone to orchestrate the offense. They need a brain, not a body. And while Wall is surely intelligent the 76ers would be best addressing outside shooting and a real post presence--Elton Brand is nothing like he was back when he played with the Clippers.

It's such a shame Igoudala has not had a team of complimenting components to maximize his abilities. And while the idea of Igoudala and Wall is intriguing I endorse my default response that the Sixers need something other than Wall.

Indiana: Oh how do you say perfect fit. This team just needs a lead guard to compliment Granger. I have nothing really left to say than this would be one of the best fits for both John Wall and the Pacers. They would still need a dominant big man but they have enough scrappy players to get by.

Memphis: The Grizzlies already have OJ Mayo and Mikey C. He would play well with these guys but chances are either one of them would be traded. What the Grizzlies really need is a veteran who can really play--its hard to see that being Zach Randolph or Rudy Gay.

Sacremento: I think John Wall would actually do well here even with Tyreke Evans. Funny how it just feels better than Wall playing alongside Derrick Rose. Evans and Wall just seem smart enough to play together. Even though they both need the ball in their hands I think it would really create matchup problems for opposing teams. Those two are so good that they could run a pick and roll by themselves... these two guards one long, crafty, and athletic, the other large, fast as hell, and uber athletic would be a lot to handle for any team. And then there's that guy Kevin Martin...The Kings would be very happy with John Wall.

Toronto: John Wall might be a big enough talent to keep Chris Bosh from leaving. Wall would absolutely dominate here alongside all these talented outside-shooting big men. With Bosh, Bargs, and Turk, all outside threats, it would make the floor wide open for Wall to do his thing. He would rack up assists and get to the line at a tremendous rate. Other than Indiana, this might be the best situation for John --that is, if Chris Bosh were to stay.

New Orleans: John Wall would be Hurricane Chris Paul insurance if Paul gets traded. And chances are good that Chris Paul would get traded if New Orleans is in the running for #1 pick John Wall. But as it stands the Hornets are probably too good to contend for the overall pick.

The thing is, if Paul gets traded the hornets better get someone amazing because if they don't John Wall would be in the same position as Paul in trying to carry an overachieving team into the playoffs--the disadvantage for Wall is that Chris Paul is better at the moment and this club wouldn't have enough pieces to really surround him with a competent team.

New Jersey: Wouldn't it be great if the Nets landed Wall. The acquisition of Wall could persuade Lebron and Bosh to join the soon to be Brooklyn Nets. The problem is, Lebron and Co. would have to play at the Izod center/or Prudential center for two seasons before they are in NYC.

With Jay Z owning a share and Prokorov as owner this really seems like a potentially realistic situation for the Nets. Harris could easily share the ball with John Wall in the back court--he does a pretty good job sharing the back court with Rafer Alston and previously with Vince Carter--and honestly Rafer is more of a ball hog than Vince was.

And with Brook Lopez being a legit quality center (and probably the second best center in the league), the future would be bright regardless of who the Nets secure as free agents in 2010. With a franchise in transition to Brooklyn and a new owner like Prokorov at the helm, the Nets would be an ideal situation for John Wall. Let's just hope Prokorov doesn't insist the Nets take Motiejunas with the #1pick.

What have we determined? Indiana, Clippers, Toronto, and New Jersey are the best fits for John Wall. With Sacramento being intriguing and the the rest of the lottery bound teams being pretty poor fits for John Wall. But who knows what the rosters will look like in June of 2010. The timberwolves have assets (as do some other lottery bound teams) to look really good with John Wall as the point guard for their future.

The point is, we don't know yet, but we do know that the Knickerbockers will have NO shot at John Wall so shut up Knick fans. Keep fantasizing about Lebron and Chris Bosh--even though thats unlikely as well--but at least its potentially possible--well if you can find a way to trade Jared Jeffries and the worst basketball player in the league, Eddy Curry. So I guess its not possible.. Well, at least you have Jordan Hill and Danillo... ...they are kinda like Lebron and Bosh... ... ...right?

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I love how NY KNICKERBOCKER

I love how NY KNICKERBOCKER fans even bother talking about John Wall...

The Knicks gave their 2010 1st round pick away to Utah. Last I checked, John Wall won't be sliding to the second round. Don't waste people's time with your "dream" posts, NYK fans.

Now, I 100 percent understand your point, but that wasn't the question. the question was hypothetically speaking.......as it is for any team in the NBA. Even if they have no shot.

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Yay fantasies!

Are you done talking Knick fan.

No point even thinking about John Wall even "hypothetically"

With this fantastical train of thought you might as well think you yourself, Mikey Nikey, is going to get magically drafted by the Knickerbockers and take them to the finals; and then cure cancer too.

Hypothesize all you like, but its a road to nowhere my friend.

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I simply answered the

I simply answered the question, and although I live in NY the 76ers are my favorite team, I could care less what they do honestly. You are really acting immature right now, and plus; there already is a cure for cancer, and also the Knicks wish they had me right now

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I am just reacting to the

I am just reacting to the ever tedious fantastical nonsense Knick fans perpetuate. I don't really care what they think up, but it sure is fun to sprinkle some reality into forums when Knick fans get going.

By the way, are you sure you aren't a Knickerbocker fan?

I mean you are pretty outstanding it seems...

The knicks wish they had you?

There is a cure for cancer?

You are an interesting guy Mike...

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Thanks, and what do you

Thanks, and what do you expect from Knicks fans? They are thirsting for a winner. This city has some of the best fans....there s always support even for this crappy team, if they could get a winner. That would be huge for the NBA, for everyone.....I feel bad for them, actually.

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I don't see how the

I don't see how the Knickerbockers success would be huge for the NBA.

The Knicks are a healthy reality check for NY fans who are used to teams like the Yankees who BUY championships instead of EARN them.

I have to disagree with everything you say bud. Sorry.

The knicks don't deserve anything--they need to earn it like anyone in the league does.

As for fans nostalgia and love for MSG. MSG aint all that great. Even with the renovation its a crappy building and the MSG team treat their employees like dirt. Did you know MSG monopolizes the area and stunts development of other stadiums to be erected in Manhattan--thats why there is no Jets or Giants football stadium in Manhattan, because of MSG. MSG doesn't want any competition for venues, because that would mean MSG would actually have to start spending money to be a better venue.

MSG also has everything to with why the Olympics will probably never come to NYC.

The Knicks and MSG are a joke. I have no respect for either group.

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Anyways........ill catch you

Anyways........ill catch you next time.

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Actually

If you read the whole thread you'd see Nateoak make a post that said "he meant in the draft, so yea" I take that as, he means, which lottery bound teams have the best shot at winning the John Wall sweepstakes...Not to be a dick like my pal gcb3 (Pacers are the best fit, I said it 1st post) but what iis the point in talking about pure hypothetical situations. As I also said in a previous post ANYONE who can run the court wants to play in New York for D'Antoni. It's not some revelation to say a super quick, young athletic point guard would like to play in a super quick up-tempo offense in the biggest market in America...Yay

The Pacers are the best fit, him and Danny Granger, Troy Murphy, Hibbert and Rush would dominate...I'd become a huge Pacers fan lol

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gcb3 the clippers one was

gcb3 the clippers one was funny. and there are reports that if the jazz got it they would trade it for a star or close to it and a draft pick because they all ready have a future star at the pg position. very smart more in myopinion...trade the pick with the kings if they are trying to trade kevin martin because im sure they would love to get that pick and possibly give them ak47 so the salaries would match and the kings add sirgio and garcia which opens up more time for donta green

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If we, the Pacers, could

If we, the Pacers, could land John Wall... It'd be a dream come true! I have season tickets and he's exactly what we need. A big, athletic and fast point guard who can push the ball. Danny is a star, but he lacks star power. I think Wall would get the city excited about basketball again.

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Yeah.. I miss the Reggie Miller days...

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You need to get off the rag

You need to get off the rag gcb. Why even mention the Magic then genius? The question was "What team do you think needs Wall the most and he fits into best?"

My opinion is the Clippers or the Knicks. Both teams have athletic players and good shooters(Gallinari/Gordon). Wall is the most likely college/h.s. player that we know of to be able to crack the top-5 at some point in his career (Lebron, Wade, Melo, Dwight, CP3 leaving Kobe out of it due to age).

Honorable mentions; Phoenix, Houston, Atlanta

Chicago wouldnt be the greatest fit because they would have a hard time defending anybody with two 6'2" guards and neither is very effective without the ball in their hands.

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