Ed Davis: A bust?!
I like Ed Davis as a player, but he's going to be one of those guys who the scouts force into the NBA because of "potential." And this will cause him to be a bust. I mean, how many guys of his mold have we seen be successful at the next level. Not thinking to deeply, but these Tyrus Thomas, Brandon Wright, Stromile Swift-like players are just not superstars or even anything at the next level, which doesn't warrant them being so highly touted and picked in the lottery, or in some cases, top-5. I swear, in 2 years of watching Davis, I'm yet to seem him attempt a shot outside of 10 feet. And its not like that's due to him being a "bruiser' inside, this guys so frail. In that Kentucky game, he was getting bullied inside, a was a non-factor in the paint. And he doesn't have the skill set, a la a Greg Monroe, to draw opposing big men out the paint. The few baskets, he does make, is all of the layup, clean up a rebound variety. I just don't see what all the hoop la is about with this guy. Honestly I feel, he should use up all of his eligibility if he wants to develop his game, and really be a factor when he gets to the next level. I don't wanna see this guy in the D-League, (see B.J. Mullens; hasn't logged in one NBA regular season minute http://www.nba.com/playerfile/byron_mullens/index.html) being a guy who just can't contribute to an NBA team. I love his activity and shot blocking, but really how far is that going to get you in the NBA, every is athletic! And when everyone calls these kids "athletes" that's just another way for saying these guys are not "skilled" (Joe Alexander). For his sake, he seems like he's a good humble kid, I hope he makes the correct, long-term career decision to avoid being a bust, and not fall into the trap these scouts that get paid millions draw him into.
whats youre definition of successful?..not everyone is gonna be a superstar but some can come in and contribute and be pretty good. b.wright is hurt this year and coach nelson said he improved tremendously from last year and was gonna start. thomas may not be a super star but he is a pretty good player that every team would like to have and hes still getting better. stromile is a bust but the league is full of guys like that who never reach there potential. i dont think davis will be a superstar but he will have a role in the nba and as long as he doesnt stink he wont be considered a bust. im sure if he comes out this or next year it wont be a bad decision since i doubt he will be out of the nba soon after geting drafted
First off Ed Davis plays nothing like Tyrus Thomas or Swift (both of those guys used their athleticism more than anything). Ed rebounds the ball extremely well and that usually translate to the NBA. He does need to add some muscle to his frame, although his body type won't allow too much. Ed does seem to have a high basketball IQ (something he probably got from his dad, who played in the league) and has an outstanding wingspan for a guy his size.
Ed is a guy who gets his stats and does it without you noticing. His stats this year have been pretty good considering he only plays 26 minutes a game. 13 points, 9 rebounds and 2 blocks!
ed davis do any thing great aside from being quick and long does have a post game or face up game ive only seen him play 3-4 times and all those time like 9 pts 6rebs 2,blks i know scouts like blocks and rebounds from big man but if that all he can do then he is just a brown skined bird or joel pryzbilla
he's actually impressed me more and more the more ive watched him. he has the potential to get better on offense and has shown that he can score a lil when he gets the ball. he's still unpolished and by no means is he a dominate offensive player. i do know he showed some offense and defense while playing against two future nba players in patterson and cousins and clearly out played cousins who i think is overrated
also im not real big on the potential word either but there are mabe 2-3 players( turner,wall,maybe wesley jonhson) that can contribute right away as well as what they can do later while everyone else will be picked on what they will do in a couple years(davis,favors,)....henry could possibly be inbetween
I think I get your point....big dud isnt necessarily saying that Davis is going to bust in the pros but his point is that we hype players so much up based on potential that now Davis is going to leave early and be considered a bust because he cant contribute right away....In todays NBA if you dont contribute by your 2nd year then you are pretty much considered a bust and arent necessarily considered a bust....I can count the number of players on my hand who went from barely any contributions to getting a chance their second year....
thats tru but thats only by the fans( and as a player i could care less what they think about me) as long as other teams dont consider it and still want to sign you then thats all that matters...darko is clearly a bust by fans yet he still keeps getting contracts. once that stops happening then you should be worried. most of the players drafted dont contribute right away and dont do alot till year 3
if he is #2pick like in offseason mock yes there is possibility but if he is really out of top10???? then he is closer to be a steal than bust, come on guys who do you want more from him, kid avg 7/7/2 last year and now in still limited minutes(25) he gets something like 13/10/2.5 in the team which might have the deepest from court in the NCAA basketball
i think hes doing pretty well. not as good as some people on here said ( 20pts 8-11 reb) but he is playing pretty well. he looks better then some of the other guys like favors who will get drafted over him because of what he might potentially do
actually in my opinion they are playing so so so similar in terms of stats both 24-25min both 13-14ppg 8-10rpg(Ed is better here but Gani is better rebounder than Deon) and over 2blk and both plays in SO good front court..
i like Ed and he isn't bust imo but if we are talking about something like #2 pick i can say that Ed is getting better but Derrick doing it even faster IMO plus his body is stronger and he is just imagine over 2years younger! I beleive lots of people forgets that Favors is just 18 and will be 18(!!!) by the time of 2010 nba draft
ed has more player to compete with though in zeller and thompson
so why you can;t say the same to Cousins when he plays next to Patt , Orton and gets under 20min
I think if he's picked in the top 5 he'll be a bust, but in terms of giving a team rebounds and garbage points he could be a good guy to pick up in the late lottery or no lower than 20. He has grown on me more and more as I've watched him (probably because of his role growth from last year), but he's not quite the type of player that should be a top 5 pick as he was projected over the summer. But now he's like 13, which would be an OK place to pick a guy like him.
is still to young and may stay another year nobody knows, way to early to call out a young college kid as a bust before he is even in the nba.
he could be a good role player but i don't see the amare comparision
He still has tons of potential, he just hasn't developed since freshman year like everyone thought he would. I doubt he comes out this year, another year would benefit him tremendously. He needs to put on some muscle, and on offense he really needs to work harder to get postition down low. From what I've seen this year he defers to Deon Thompson too often down low, and when he does get the ball it seems like he doesn't try any low post moves to score. Maybe their offense is set up more for Thompson, but I find that hard to imagine. Davis should come back for his junior year because if he comes out this year he may find himself falling down the draft board.
because cousins has dominated inferior comp but when he played against future pro's he was a non factor. when i see how favors plays against bettrer comp then ill give him more prase untill then i cant put him in the catagory of those who have proven what they can do against good comp or future pros