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Dhamp2 prediction: Lance Stephenson will flop in the NBA

I first brought Wesley Johnson to nbadraft.net and I said he would be a top 15 pick and the best transfer in college basketball. Here's my second prediction: Lance Stephenson will flop in the NBA. Write it down, I don't want people jumping on this bandwagon.

He was a excellent high school basketball player and is a good college player. End of story. He bullied people (teammates ) but also and opponets with brute strenght much like dare I say Quentin Richardson did in high school in Chicago. Stephenson isn't that explosive, not that athletic and isn't going to back down NBA players with a 6 foot 5 frame. He'll be a role player in the NBA with most of his success coming in his first few NBA seasons. Or when GMs allow give him the freedom to shoot and explore his development.

I've seen him play twice: That's good enough for me. He may average 15 to 17 points in the league. It will be down hill from there.

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Wesley Johnson is a top 15 pick and best transfer in America
Jaron was better than both Brandon and Kareem Rush
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hes not supposed to go that

hes not supposed to go that high anyway and if he does average 15 to 17 points how can you call that a bust? and being a role player doesnt mean he is a bust either. every team needs good role players. this site has him going in the 40s. getting a player than can score 15-17 ppg or a role player in the second round is excellent value

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I disagree, If he could get

I disagree, If he could get away with bullying everyone and scoring, then hell, I don't blame him. He is a great scorer and the big body won't hurt driving and finishing at the basket.

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ive watched and played

ive watched and played against jaron..jaron was a better athlete then his brothers but there were a couple other aspetcs of his game that he wasn't better at. brandon was the most skilled of them all. as far as lance..im not sure anyone has ever said he is gonna be a star in the nba ..just a average to good player so what you are saying isnt really news. as far as wesley johnson the more i look up past stuff the more i noticed there were more people talking about him then i thought. alot of sites had him as the transfer that would have the most impact this year

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Lance hasn't really done

Lance hasn't really done anything in the first 10 games or so to prove to me he is a one and done player, there is a lot of season left, but for him to make an impact and have the best chance to succeed in the NBA, I think he needs at least another year of college ball, and I don't think he is prepared to do that.

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I know where this web site

I know where this web site has him going, but trust me, he's going way higher than that. Try telling that to someone in NY. And to answer you question 15 to 17 points is decent, but it will be down hill from there. His career averages will be much lower than that. Also, have you been to NY lately. Most everyone there thinks he's the messiah.

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hopefully hes smart enough

hopefully hes smart enough to stay..theres a couple of players who should stay another year

lance
henson
cousins

actually other then wall i think all the freshmen could stand to play another year..i mean wall could too but he seems to be the most ready out of the rest. ive gotta see what favors can do against non cupcakes because he looks good(not dominate or great) against them

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There were a lot of websites

There were a lot of websites saying Wesley Johnson was a top transfer.  Pretty much everybody knew he was a solid transfer that would help Syracuse. 

However, I have to give DHamp his credit here because he was the first & only person that said Wesley Johnson would be a lottery pick before this season started!  I didn't see any websites saying Wesley was a lottery pick before the season began.  Personally I thought at the time DHamp was crazy haha...

It is still early though & Wesley Johnson isn't a guaranteed lock for the lottery but you have to be impressed.  Both nbadraft.net & draftexpress have Wesley in the 2010 lottery now.  Looks like a good call right now DHamp 

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Q Hodges, you played against

Q Hodges, you played against Jaron? Seriously? What about Earl Watson, Jaron is the only reason Earl is in the NBA. He told Lavin it was a package deal. They were famous for their halfcourt alleyoops. They did it for a while at UCLA also.

I still think Jaron was better than Brandon and Kareem. Kareem was the least best of the three.

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I always knew Adam Morrison would suck. He's just like Casey Jacobson, Sam Jacobson, Donta Calabrea (some of you young cats better step it up), Jason Kapono and Trajon Langdon
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most people didnt unless

most people didnt unless youre like me and go onto alot of other chat sites other then this one (cnnsi,espn,draftexpress,hoopshype,dc blog,etc)...

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I went to grade school, and

I went to grade school, and summer-school, with Durand Scott of the Miami Hurricanes, he was on the Varsity while I layed JV ball, he will be a real sleeper pick in an upcoming draft(he went to school with Kemba Walker at Rice and is Stephenson's NY rival)

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ive watched him play..hes

ive watched him play..hes pretty good.. i think in 3-4 years he will have a chance to get drafted.. if no he will make good money in europe

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How can you say a projected

How can you say a projected 2nd round pick will be a flop? Especially if he averages 17ppg in ANY stage of his career

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im with magikKnick, if he

im with magikKnick, if he can score 17ppg for 1 year as a second round pick he was worth it. Anyway I see him as a bonzi wells type player which if he is drafted late first early second wouldn't be a bad pick.

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D-Hamp your my homie but I

D-Hamp your my homie but I gotta disagree.

Lance can be a pretty good player once he gets in the L. I'm thinking Lance will have a Mike Finley type career.

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im from kansas city and

im from kansas city and watched all the rush brothers and if anyone doesnt think jaron was the best by far they are smoking crack! if not for him taking money he would have been a lottery pick or if he came straight to the league with kg he would have been a high pick ask kg about his game. Lance will be a cool player in the league reminds me of reke evans he just went to a team than isnt giving him the ball thats the only diff he is a role player for his team if given the ball to make plays then he would be putting up numbers and would be shooting up draft boards like henry. nobody thought he would be a 1 and done until KU gave him the green light.

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If Lance goes this year, he

If Lance goes this year, he is going to go in the second round and he is going to get buried at the end of a bench for a few seasons. He isn't overly athletic, and uses his strength to get to the bucket, but he is shooting 58% from the line this season and as 15% from the college 3. He needs a couple years to refine his game if he honestly wants to make it in the league, and I have doubts if he'll ever give a team more than 7 pg in the NBA. I know he is a big name, but not all big names produce, I'll admit, he looked pretty decent in the Gonzaga game, but he is really inconsistant and If he leaves this year which I think he will, I think he'll be out in 5 years.

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the two things I've said

the two things I've said over and over since I came to this site are Jennings will be the best player from this draft and Stephenson will be a bust. He's not that athletic, dribbles the air outta the ball, can't shoot, has a terrible attitude and gets butt hurt when things don't go his way. If he tried to come out after this year he wouldn't get drafted, and I doubt he'll ever work his way into the first round no matter how long he stays. He's a prime example of the New York hype machine doing more than the player himself. The only time he's effective is when he's overpowering smaller guards on his way to the cup, and with the trouble he's having at the college level it's pretty clear that that WILL NOT work on the NBA level. I hope he brushes up on his Turkish 'cause he'll be overseas in the next few years.

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i must be smoking crack then

i must be smoking crack then because i think brandon was the best of the bunch..even after the scandle happened jaron didnt do much where ever he ended up player(alot had to do with the drinking of course)..he was a 6'6 small foward. athletic but wasnt that great at any other part of the game. there were no other parts of his game that were major nba abilities

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i even remeber him in the d

i even remeber him in the d l leauge not doing anything

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he was a great defender and

he was a great defender and rebounder also and his life just fell apart after the money scandal. Im from where their from anybody from around here will tell you who the most talented rush brother was and its jaron. look at what he was doing at ucla b4 things he got suspended he even killed in the mcdonalds game which neither other brother even made it to

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everything u guys are saying

everything u guys are saying about lance is what tyreke did overpower small guards and could not shoot and not very athletic he just doesnt look that effective cuz he doesnt have the ball in his hands alot thats with any good young guard they dont really know how to play off the ball yet. why do you think bledsoe has looked horrible since wall started playing? why do you think tyreke struggled until he started playing point? he's not a point but he needs the ball to be effective and we know what he can do when he has the ball in his hands he's a scorer. player like him you have to run the offense through cuz they cant shoot so they need to have the ball

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Beanz, what KG are you

Beanz, what KG are you talking about? I hope it's not Garnett. Garnett was in the '95 class and Jaron Rush was in the '98 class. But, yeah, Jaron was by far the most talented Rush brother. He reminded me a lot of Latrell Sprewell, only he was a bit bigger. Tireless motor, great athlete, could lock people down. People need to realize there's a lot more to high level basketball than what goes on on the floor.

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my bad butn this is what

my bad butn this is what sportsillistrated had to say about him

News & Notes

From PrepStar's Jeff Siegel

April 8
With the first day of the spring signing period Wednesday (April 8), here is the current status of the 15-member PrepStar Basketball Dream team. Only fourth-year seniors are considered for inclusion.

CENTERS (2)

DAN GADZURIC
6-11, Governor Dummer Academy, Byfield, MA

Gadzuric played impressively at the McDonald's All-American game (15 points, 7-8 from the field) and clearly established himself at the number one big man prospect in the class. Gadzuric is virtually impossible to stop down low but can hit the midrange ju mper with a fair amount of consistency, so from an offensive standpoint, he's far superior to our other Dream Team big man, Joel Przybilla. Defensively, Gadzuric has the ability to block shots, although he's fundamentally raw. He does run the floor extrem ely well for his size (he competed in the 400 meters in track), but relies on sheer strength rather than explosive jumping ability for rebounding.

Gadzuric has officially visited (in order) Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, George Washington and California, plus he has unofficially visited Connecticut. Gadzuric said last summer he would prefer to play in a big city at a good academic institution with a rich b asketball history, leading most to conclude that UCLA - clearly a qualifier on all counts - would be his "leader." The Bruins remain the favorite to land Gadzuric if he decides to attend college but he's also considering a possible jump directly to the N BA.

Gadzuric showed little in the Nike Hoops Summit at San Antonio and left the game in the second half with a strained back, an injury that was reported to be chronic but couldn't have been too serious since he came back to play the following week in Magic's Roundball Classic. While in no way detracting from his immense potential, his performance in San Antonio should serve as wake-up call to anybody advising this 20-year-old to bypass college and turn pro. He is nowhere near ready.

JOEL PRYZYBILLA
7-0, Monticello, MN

Przybilla chose to remain in state when he signed with Clem Haskins' Minnesota Golden Gophers in the fall. An outstanding defensive player, Pryzybilla figures to be a force in the Big-10 as he gains experience and strength. His offensive game is well behi nd his defensive skills right now, but he is a surprisingly good athlete for his size and has a nice touch within 12-15 feet.

Przybilla was the much more polished of the two when he played against Gadzuric last summer in AAU competition but it was clear in their match up in the McDonald's game that Gadzuric had far more upside and was the better prospect. That's not really bad news for Golden Gopher fans; what it may mean is that Przybilla still will be at Minnesota long after Gadzuric has taken his act to the NBA.

POWER FORWARDS (4)

RASHARD LEWIS
6-10, Alief-Elsik, Houston, TX

Lewis is regarded by most as the best player in the entire class and did nothing in the McDonald's game and the Nike Hoops Summit to hurt his reputation. He says his final two choices are Kansas and Florida State but he hasn't officially visited either s chool and he's not yet academically eligible to play college ball next year. He says he won't make any decision for at least a couple of weeks but few would be surprised if he bolts to the NBA.

What sets apart Lewis from the pack is his versatility. Strong and quick enough to play power forward but with a shooting touch most small forwards would kill for, Lewis would seem capable of actually contributing immediately to an NBA team, as opposed to just taking up space on the pine. He has said a number of times that he would prefer to play in college but, like Kevin Garnett, might not have that option if he fails to qualify academically.

AL HARRINGTON
6-8, St. Patrick, Elizabeth, NJ

To say the least, Harrington was impressive in the McDonald's game, scoring 17 points, pulling down six rebounds and dishing out three assists in just 16 minutes. Harrington has plenty of diversity in his game; he's strong underneath but can hit from beyo nd the arc, he handles the ball just fine and his athleticism never has been in question. While we can't quite rank him number one in the entire class, we won't ask him to give back his trophy after being named winner of the Naismith Award as the nationa l prep player of the year

It has long been believed that George Tech was the leader for Harrington but St. John's may be coming on strong while Seton Hall, North Carolina State, Villanova and Ohio State were others who are, or were, quite active in his recruitment. Harrington has qualified and given some thought to the NBA, although college appears to be in his future.

KORLEONE YOUNG
6-7, Hargrave Military Academy, Chatham, VA.

Young was a terrific high school player who certainly would have been an outstanding college performer as well, but he's made the decision to go directly to the NBA after failing to qualify academically for college (UNLV, Arkansas, Georgetown and Connecti cut had been heavily involved). Young's main problem is that he is really is too small to player power forward (he was actually measured at 6-5 without shoes at the Nike Camp last year) and his perimeter game, while reportedly much improved this year, sti ll has a ways to go before being up to snuff for an NBA small forward.

Too bad college wasn't a viable option. Young could have used a year or two.

STROMILE SWIFT
6-9, Fair Park, Shreveport, LA

So impressive at the Nike Camp that many thought he finished the summer as the number one player in the nation, Swift verified his reputation with a spectacular McDonald's performance, scoring 12 points, blocking three shots and grabbing five boards in li mited minutes. He had given an early verbal to LSU but never signed and has rethought his position after the allegations against the Tigers in their recruitment of Lester Earl came to light. It's possible the NCAA will nail LSU and Swift will want no par t of that program if they do. Most believe he'll end up at Michigan (he's fond of Coach Brian Ellerbe) but Swift, who has not yet qualified academically, still says he wants to take an official visit to UCLA.

Swift played center in high school and is more than skilled enough to play the middle in college, but his future really is at the power forward position. An extremely quick and athletic big man, Swift is a monster on the offensive glass and his face-the-b asket skills are coming along nicely. He can block shots, run the floor and rebound with anybody his size.

SMALL FORWARDS (4)

JARON RUSH
6-6, Pembroke Hill, Kansas City, MO

Once considered the best player in his class as a junior, Rush slipped a bit in some experts' opinion following an inconsistent '97 summer league season, but we've always believed him to be the best small forward in the nation and still do. Rush gave a v erbal to Kansas during the fall but never signed and never really seemed to have his heart in it. Several weeks ago, he said he was changing his mind, that he might not sign with Kansas because "Roy subs too much." It was that statement that reportedly triggered Jayhawk Coach Roy Williams to cease his recruitment of a player he had been counting on since Rush's junior year in high school.

If truth be told, Rush probably never would have played a minute for Kansas anyway, because of his involvement with Tom Grant, a bona fide Kansas booster and the underwriter of the CMH 76er AAU team that Rush played on the past two years. Most insiders be lieved the NCAA would void any letter of intent Rush signed with Kansas, and that if Rush didn't realize this, Williams certainly did. At any rate, Rush has committed to UCLA, the school that he had originally listed as his first choice last summer.

How good is Rush? He's the best small forward prospect ever recruited by UCLA, that's how good. A splendid all-round player who can muscle underneath or drain the three, Rush has superb court vision and defensive instincts. He'll play the off guard in the NBA but the Bruins are hoping he'll stick around for at least a couple of years, or at least long enough to play with younger brother Kareem, who'll be among the best high school seniors in the nation next year and a potential Bruin in 1999.

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HA HA HA!!!! Rush was nice.

HA HA HA!!!! Rush was nice. I'll take it one step further. Rush missed 19 games for UCLA and his first game back (drunk on the court and reeking of alcohol I might add) he lit then #1 Stanford for 20 points and a victory. That's the Rush I remember. He couldn't leave the booze alone.

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I think Stephenson will have

I think Stephenson will have a Paul Pierce type career. He's got the whole package offensively, even though he's not quite a consistent shooter. But I think he can be one of the best scorers in the NBA, as he shows the ability to score at all 3 levels. He's also a good and intense on-ball defender. I think he has plenty of pro potential, players like him don't flop. He's too competitive and talented to flop.

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He is no where NEAR the

He is no where NEAR the player Paul Pierce is....he is selfish, thinks he is a 1 guard and doesnt have the competitive streak that Pierce has shown over the years, or the post game, or the mid range shot...Iguodala, you know I respect your opinion alot on this site but that is hands down the worst comparison you have ever made

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How does Lance Stephenson

How does Lance Stephenson "show the ability to score at all 3 levels?" He is nowhere and will never be anything like Paul Pierce abut I do like the Bonzi Wells comparison.. Stephenson thinks he is much better than he really is,,

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I don't think y'all have

I don't think y'all have ever seen him play before...

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LOL billyk

That's what I think about him and Kenny Boynton... They think they're better than they actually are...

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Ive seen him play a few

Ive seen him play a few times this year at Cincy he looks slow, unathletic, and he can't shoot to call himself a SG... His handle is decent but he doesnt make his teamates better (horrible playmaker)... He is a above average defender and his bread and butter is his strength.... What special skill makes him a future NBA all star??/

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I think Lance will have a

I think Lance will have a solid career, he won't be a 10 time all star or 5 even. but he will be a solid role player for what I think will be an early 2nd round pick this year, he's not smart enough to stay another year, but he will be a steak in the 2nd round because as someone said about tyreke, he's not good without the ball, but he's good with it. Lance can do that same thing and he will end up having that bonzi wells/ mario elie career.

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I think Lance will have a

I think Lance will have a solid career, he won't be a 10 time all star or 5 even. but he will be a solid role player for what I think will be an early 2nd round pick this year, he's not smart enough to stay another year, but he will be a steak in the 2nd round because as someone said about tyreke, he's not good without the ball, but he's good with it. Lance can do that same thing and he will end up having that bonzi wells/ mario elie career.

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speaking about the rush

speaking about the rush brothers, i do think jaron was gonna be the best out of hs. He was sick with his athleticism and was more then just an athlete. He could rebound, hit jumpers off the pull up. Crazy to think after 2 years of college he wasn't even drafted. I read where he was pretty much drunk 24/7 and even in the nba with the sonics he was once found passed out in a hotel lobby where the team was staying.

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I think his game is too

I think his game is too street. He looks, sometimes, like he wishes he was on the And1 Mixtape Tour. 6'7 with a good handle and potential to be a decent scorer might make some GMs think about him.

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oh yeah and the rush

oh yeah and the rush brothers, i always thought brandon would be the best, when he first came on 2 the scene, he looked like he had took the best of his 2 brothers,after a great freshman year i was thinking yea this dude is good and then 2 injuries and inconsistency and he should be a good defensive player but he's being inconsistent and his offense still hasn't seemed to improve since his freshman season, though he did become a better spot up shooter.

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yeah being ranked high in hs

yeah being ranked high in hs doesnt always translate into college. we know now that he wasnt the best sf that ucla ever had.. he was good but i wont go past that. he played well there didnt dominate even before the bad stuff happened

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and yeah dhamp played

and yeah dhamp played against him and korlene young and corey in aau..we actually punished them pretty good. they were suppossed to have a allstar team that summer but every tournament they played in that we were in teams were giving them the business

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Lance Stephenson

This guy has had off-court issues that are nothing to sweep under the rug. This guy may be talented to play in the NBA, but his head is not there. Also, I question his mental toughness. For a guy that could have gone anywhere if his head was in the right place (no knock on cincy), but he will go to Cincy for a year and jump be a 2nd rounder and mess up. Lance is making me think of Omar Cook.

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