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My apology to...

I would like to apologize to Danilo Gallinari of the New York Knicks. I really underestimated this guy. He is really filling it up now that he's healthy and getting adjusted to the NBA. I think it's a toss up between Gallinari and Anthony Morrow for NBA's best sharpshooter. I still think the Dirk Nowitzki comparisons were off-base but not as far off as I thought originally. I thought he was a lock to be 2008's draft bust, but if he builds on his emergence as a bonafide starter (even on a terrible team) he will make that strong draft class at least half a grade higher.


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Yeah... The Detlef Schremp comparison was right on the money as far as I'm concerned. Right now, I think the lottery bust would definately have to be Joe Alexander. He is the highest drafted player ever to have his team decline his rookie contract option. Therefore he will be a free-agent at the end of the season. I had high hopes for Alexander but, I don't know if it will ever work out for him.

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Here We Go Again

One of these days I'm going to read a thread when a player is compared to another in the NBA it won't always be white - white or black - black. If guys can't find a white guy who's still active for the white player comparison, they will go back to another era to find a white guy who hasn't played in years.

Having said that, I think the Dirk Nowitzki comparison was far better than the Detlef Schremp one, a guy who retired 8 years ago. When Dirk came into the league, he spent the bulk of the game firing nothing but long range jump shots and that's exactly what Galinari does at this stage of his career. And both Dirk and Galinari are incredible ball handlers for guys who are so tall.

Detlef Schremp was a far superior driver than Galinari. Schremp also had a nice little mid-range jumper, but he was nothing more than an average 3 point shooter. Galinari's primary game is long range jumpers from beyond the 3 point line.

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im glad gallinari is finally

im glad gallinari is finally getting some recognition. us knick fans saw that he was something special from the begining. you can tell this guy is going to continue to improve and adjust to this game and that he hasn't gotten anywhere close to his full potential. I think if the knicks do sign a superstar in the next few years, gallo will be a great sidekick to whoever decides to come.

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i actually doubted him at

i actually doubted him at first then said he reminded me of detlf. of course detlef was a better drive and better at a couple other things but detlef was a vet. danilo is only in his second year so he has time to learn that other stuff

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Gallinari

BTW I want to see Gallinari so badly in the three point shootout.

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Schrempf?

Average three point shooter? Absoleutly not rtbt. He shot 38 percent for his career including an amazing 54% during his best year as a pro. Im tired of hearing you putting down other peoples player comparisons and then making poor ones yourself. You complain about comparing white players from one generation to the next and racial associated comparisons in general but you go and compare Dirk Nowitzki to Gallinari. The reason I compared Gallinari to Shrempf is because that is the player he is most like, not because they are both white. And by the way, do not ever mention John Scheyer and Ray Allen in the same sentence again.....

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Da1pot, let's talk facts

You're right, Detlef Schrempf's career 3 point FG% was 38%. If he was playing today, that percentage would place Schrempf at number 54 in the league in 3 point shooting. If you don't think that's average shooting, then what can I say.

Schrempf had one year, only one season, when he was unconscious from the 3 point line. I don't think one out of fifteen years makes you a great shooter. By the way, his percentage that year was 51%, not 54%. Hey Da1pot, why didn't you point out the four consecutive seasons when Schrempf shot 15%, 20%, 12%, and 26% from the 3 point line?

More importantly, as I mentioned above, Schrempf was outstanding when driving to the basket and his forte was that sweet medium range jump shot. I watch all of the Knick games and I can tell you with complete certainty that Galinari lives outside the 3 point line, unlike Schrempf, he rarely drives to the basket. So far this season, Galinari's already taken 127 three point shots and we're only in the first week of December! And he's shooting an outstanding 44% from the three point line.

In Schrempf's 15 year NBA career, there were only 4 seasons when he took more than 127 three point shots, and that's for an entire 82 game season. That's because unlike Galinari, Schrempf did not live out on the perimeter, he was constantly driving and penetrating. Therefore, I don't buy the Galinari-Scrempf comparison.

DaPot1, please don't mis-characterize my comments. I don't have a problem when someone compares two players and both of them are white as long as they play a similar style of game. I have a problem when every player on the comparison list is white. I also don't like the idea of going back in time to compare players because you cannot find another active white player when there are tons of black guys who are great long distance shooters.

Once again, I think the Galinari - Nowitzki comparison is a very good one, especially when Dirk was in his first few years in the league. Both of them spend or spent a significant amount of time firing up long range jumpers.

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rtbt, lets talk more facts

First if all, when did 38% for a 15 year career from the 3 point line ever become average. That is a very respectable percentage and by no means "average." That ranks him 64th all-time out of what, thousands of NBA players? Also, you cannot sum up someones fifteen year career based on four of their first six years. So what if he shot 15%, 20%, 12%, and 26% from the 3 point line during that four year period. He shot 38% for his career, which is what I am getting at. I also think that Schrempf is the player he will become most like once his frame fills out and he has some other decent players to play with. I'll admit that he is good, but Gallo is definately a product of a system right now. You will see in the future when he plays on a team with a half-court set he will be very similar to Schrempf, not Nowitzki. He will be a career above average player with few all-star appearances, just like Schrempf. He will not be a perennial all-star season after season like Nowitzki. I know your "system" for comparisons is a generalization, but since you kindly said "I also don't like the idea of going back in time to compare players because you cannot find another active white player when there are tons of black guys who are great long distance shooters" name someone other than Nowitzki during this timeline that compares to Gallinari. I'm just going for the better comparison thats all.....

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I think Gallinari is more

I think Gallinari is more like Mike Miller than any other player, with the potential to develop into a Miller-type passer dribble drive player.

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Da1pot Prediciting the Future

OK, that's better. Although I think Schrempf and Galinari have very little in common, saying that he will eventually become the same kind of player is far more reasonable than stating they are very similar. I still don't buy the comparison, but at least the long range prediction is one I can live with.

Galinari essentially plays a very stationary game outside of the 3 point line. He occasionally goes down low and/or drives to the basket. In addition, he is extremely slow, two of his weaknesses are lack of strength and foot speed.

Detlef Schrempf was a guy who made his living by running the court on fast breaks, driving/penetrating to the basket, and/or pulling up with that very nice mid range jumper. At this point in time, their styles have very little in common.

OK, since you are asking me for another player for the comparison, I will give you a name, but only after I qualify my selection. I think Danilo Galinari is a very unique player with tons of potential and I really wouldn't compare with him anyone else. In my opinion, there's only one other guy who truly played the same style and that was a younger Dirk Nowitzki. Having said that, there's another young 6 foot 11 inch player who reminds me somewhat of Galinari and that's Donte Green.

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