i also dont agree with the kirk comparison. even when kirk wa sin college..kirks handles were nice and he could shoot as well as break youre ankles while getting to the lane. i cant think of any white player kirk reminded me off then him or jason williams(white chocolate)
"His career FG average is only 41%, and as you pointed out, he's a meager 38% from the three point line, which isn't very impressive."
38% is a good number for career 3-point shooting. Definitely above average.
iguodala9, you might have a point about the 3 point FG%, maybe "meager" was a too strong of a negative.
I checked this year's NBA stats before posting that message and a 3 point FG% of 38%, as of yesterday, would put a player way back at number 54 in the league. However, if you look at it your way, that's probably qualifies as above average. But in my mind, that isn't anything to rave about.
For those who don't think Scheyer can play in the NBA , how many "combo" guards have an A/TO ratio of 8.4/1 . How many point guards have that high of a ratio in the NCAA? Only Scheyer has that incredible ratio. His outstanding talent that would stand out in the NBA is passing. Scheyer is a 6'5" point guard who is developed into an outstanding passer. There is no doubt in my mind he can play point guard in the NBA. He may be lacking one characteristic. This is only my opinion but if he were not white he would be considered more of an NBA prospect. He is much more athletic than he gets credit for. Did anyone see him block what was a break away lay up for St John's . Tell me someone who is slow and can't leap would have made that play. The area he needs to improve on to make it in the NBA is strength. Scheyer can get to the basketball but sometimes he is bumped and misses the shot. In the NBA, he would need to be stronger . He shoots well enough to be a threat in the NBA. Another amazing statistic is his points per shot. If he were as unathletic as everyone seems to think, why does he get to the line so much, (beside the untrue BS that refs might favor him)? On defense , he is much , much better than he is given credit for. Jay Bilas, last season said Scheyer was the best defender on Duke. If he is so lacking as an athlete ,why did he have 2 very good games against UNC last season? Why was he named the MVP of the ACC tournament? Almost all whites with rare exception such as Chase Budinger are assumed to not have the speed, explosiveness, and quickness necessary to play in the NBA. Everyone said Harangody was not NBA material until he attended the NBA combine last season. He and Hansbrough did much better than expected while Austin Daye had terrible numbers. I'll bet Scheyer if he attends the NBA combine will put up good numbers.
I just don't think Scheyer is anymore than a 2nd rounder. I don't think he is a terrible athlete, but to be a top NBA shooting guard/point guard prospect you have to be a better athlete than Scheyer. He is a very good college player, and so was Adam Morrison. He would be a defensive liability against a lot of NBA guards, and yeah he has a high bball IQ to make up for it, but sometimes that just isn't enough, he may put up surprising numbers in the combine like you eluded, and those might earn him a mid 2nd round selection, but your acting like the guy is a lottery pick and that just isn't the case.
If as everyone believes Scheyer is too slow, and lacks quickness to play in the NBA why did he absolutely outplay Kemba Walker head to head? Dyson and Walker are too very athletic guards. Neither had a good game against Duke. Scheyer was able to stay with Dyson and at times when he guarded Walker, he did a very good job. If Scheyer were so lacking in athletic ability one or both UConn guards would have eaten him alive. Walker is considered a first round pick and Dyson is an NBA prospect. Scheyer as he has proven against UNC's guards last season , and against other guards now in the NBA and against UConn's guards is not a liability on defense. I don't remember suggesting he is lottery pick or even a first rounder.
If you aren't eluding to the fact you think he is going to be a high pick or an impact player then why are you spewing stats about a guy who could get picked in the 2nd round and in my opinion a guy who is going to be in the Dleague or only see 5 min a game, what impact do you see him having?
I know at best he will be a low second round pick. Not because he deserves to be but because of the stereotype against white American players. This website totally ignores him. I believe he was better than Henderson who was an undeserved lottery pick. Henderson is ranked 33rd (out of 47) by ESPN among rookies, which supports my opinion that Henderson was very overrated . This website has Dyson as a first round pick but doesn't have Scheyer even in honorable mention. Who had the better game at MSG? ESPN has Kemba Walker as their poster boy right now going against John Wall. But Walker had only 9 points 5 turnovers and 4 assists against Duke's backcourt. Dyson also had a very ineffective game. Schyer was named MVP of the NIT tournament. So a player who has 8.4/1 A/TO ratio, was MVP of a tournament during which he outplayed 2 projected 1st round picks, had 2 very good games against the national champions last season, was MVP of the NCAA's best league's tournament last season, doesn't even deserve a mention on an NBA draft site? Why? I don't want to be banned but maybe the stereotyping is becoming excessive.
I think the white stigma is ludacris from a front office standpoint, Walker is 10 games into his sophomore year and Schyer is 22 with a ton of college experience so it's not surprising he held his own, but walker has way more upside and players need upside to be drafted high, I can't believe you pulled the white card, Aldrich is a white player with average athleticism and is in the top10! Jon Scheyer just isn't that good of an NBA prospect. He is a good college player, but not all good college players aregood pros!