Was 2009 kind of a strange draft or are most drafts like this??
Was it a strange draft or do alot of them turn out this way?? Lets look at some notable players.
1 - Blake Griffin - Out for 4-6 Weeks. The 1st pick hasnt played. Crazy.
2 - Hasheem Thabeet - Sux. Stuck on the end of the bench. Crazy.
3 - James Harden - Pretty important bench player. Not Crazy.
4 - Tyreke Evans - Huge part of his teams success. Not too Crazy.
5 - Rick Rubio - Staying overseas. Hasnt even had a practice. Crazy.
6 - Jonny Flynn - Starting and contributing in a big way. Not too Crazy
7 - Steph Curry - Starting and scoring. Not too Crazy.
8 - Jordan Hill - Not playing on a terrible team. Crazy.
9 - DeMarr Derozen - Starting and average. Not Crazy
10 - Brandon Jennings - Dominating his team. Kinda Crazy.
11 - Terrence Williams - Starting on a really bad team. Not Crazy
12 - Gerald Henderson - Riding the bench on a bad team that is weak at his spot. A little Crazy.
13 - Tyler Hansborough - Great bench player. Not Crazy
14 - Earl Clark - Not playing on one of the best teams in the league (as far as wins go). Not Crazy
15 - Austin Daye - Role Plaer on average team. Not Crazy.
Notable players out of lotto
18 - Ty Lawson - 7th man on a top 3 team in the West. Crazy
20 - Eric Maynor - Great player on a top 3 team in West. Crazy
25 - Rodrigue Beaubois - Starting on a good team in the West. Crazy
26 - Taj Gibson - Starting on a good team in the East. Crazy
37 - Dejuan Blair - Great player on top 3 team in West. Crazy
44 - Chase Buddinger - Great role player on decent team. Crazy
If you are missing the point, I'll spell it out for ya. Is it crazy that some of these guys that are supposedly the top players in the draft are ridding the bench and some of the guys that teams should pass on are dominating (Jennings) and making their playoff teams potential title contenders. My question. Is this shaping up to be a crazy, backwards draft?? Backwards in the sense that the lower players will actually rise to the top and the top players will not see much time. Is it??
Brandon Jennings' play has been insane, so far. We will have to see if he can keep it up, but he is definitely playing at another level. By the way he is dominating his opponents not his team, but we all know what you saying.
As far as some of these guys making their teams potential title contenders, I would say Lawson is probably the only one who is on a title caliber team and will get consistent minutes throughout the year. Beaubois has been a surprise, but once Howard returns then his minutes will drop. Where is the love for Wesley Matthews and Toney Douglas? They have been playing pretty well.
Overall, I don't think it is that crazy considering this was a weak draft. Pretty neat observation though.
I did mean dominating his team BTW. He is dominating his team. Look at it. He is leading them in points and assist. He is like 3rd in rebounds probably 1st in assist. W/O Redd, he is dominating his team. Now that Bogut is out, I think his play will drop a little.
You are right about Lawson. He is the guy that is pushing his team to a title contender. He is a great change of pace player and really adds to their team.
Matthews is playing good but Douglas is about to be replaced. He apparently isnt that impressive. They are gonna bring in AI or someone because they are terrible. Also, him playing on a really bad team isnt that crazy.
True. Bringing in AI, isn't going to help that team. The Knicks are a mess. Nate Robinson is almost at 100% and will start taking all of Douglas' minutes. I think Douglas was just getting PT because Duhon couldn't hit a shot to save his life.
Good call. What is NY gonna do when they have to play Iverson and Nate at the same time. That would be one of the smallest backcourts in the history of the NBA. I feel really sry for Duhon because he is a good player and could be even better if he wasnt expected to play 40 minutes a night. He deserves to play for a team like the Magic, Nuggets, Spurs, Lakers, ect. He could be a great backup for a great PG somewhere.
He can't hit a shot he looks like he's over matched and timid against most pg's.
He's not very athletic and his defense has been suspect.
Iverson probably get injured sooner or later he's old and rather they pass on another shoot first pg.
Isn't the team small enough..
Nah looks like D'antoni is gonna give Douglas minutes but for once he was smart and kept Duhon starting so Douglas as the starting SG didn't have a lot of pressure. The Iverson signing makes no sense maybe owner is pushing for it to create a buzz or he has dreams of the playoffs. Who knows the win against Indy was big finally they play with intensity and defended well in the 2nd half.
Btw saw some of Brandon Jennings highlights inn his other games were more impressive than the 55 pts game becaz that was mostly jump shots against awful Warriors D. On his drives he looks sick caz he's never really out of control.
Just saw a high school game of his he broke two diff. guys ankles so bad they fell down bad.
Donnie Walsh was an idiot to pass on him esp. since some of his euro scouts were very on him.
2nd year in a row they take the wrong guy.
can you explain to me how eric maynor is a GREAT player??? or how the jazz are a top 3 team in the west???
also, give shout out to wes matthews, who is starting for the jazz, the guy was UNDRAFTED
1. injuries happen
2. it takes big men time to adjust... everyone knew that thabeet was a project though... that was a potential pick
8. jordan hill~ again, big men...and hill is also a potential pick
gerald henderson- larry brown hates rookies
beaubois~ look at other foreigners taken late because they didn't play gagainst college players: ginobili, parker, fernandez, sergio rodriguez
as for ty lawson, we all knew he could do this, but this is his ceiling... what else can ty lawson bring you? he's not a 35 minutes/gm starter... he's a change of pace guy who has a lot of experience pushing the ball
taj gibson was dPOY pac 10~ ppl just thought he was "too small" which seems pretty typical (guy like milsap comes to mind~ downgraded because of size.)
i dont think the gibson thing is crazy because tyrus thomas isnt that skilled..plus he is 6'9 with very long arms
never figured j.hill would do much his first year either because he was always thought of as a raw project
NYK, bigballa, and xbadgerhustler are spot on, although I heard the knock on Taj Gibson was how slight his frame is. He had great measurables (6'8.5" without shoes, 6'9.75" with, 7'4" wingspan.) I agree Douglas was going to get the lion's share of back up minutes because he's arguably their best defender now. Hughes has been playing pretty well and definitely will get the most time at the 2. All drafts take on their own life, and remember this is early. Players that start out hot may be playing the best ball of their career, while some of the players doing nothing get better later in their career (McGrady, Jermaine O'Neal come to mind first.)
The one anomaly is Rubio. Has ever a top 5 draft pick, offered millions of dollars and a chance to star in the NBA, refused? Only Tiago Splitter is close but... the amount of hype that came with this kid was mind boggling. He was on a Lebron, Yao level of hype and considering how fast those two started their careers... it can be considered nothing but a colossal disappointment by NBA fans.
the thing wit jermaine oneal though is portland had a very good rasheed and brian grant there..and he was just comming out of highschool
It's looking like a pretty decent draft so far, but a far cry from the "weakest draft since 2000" claim that some ppl made. There is a good amount of very good players who have distinct roles and will help teams get better, which makes for a decent to above-average class.