I think thats a horrible trade for Boston and Sacramento... Philly gets rid of a bad contract.....IMO Boston already has a James Posey type in Marquis Daniels, only Daniels can play the point
this trade would be good for boston more dept behind paul pierce
I like this deal for the Kings and the 76ers, but I'm mixed on it for the Celtics.
There's been talk of the Kings trading the expiring contract of Thomas to the Hornets for Okafor. Making the deal for Dalembert instead makes more sense. He's making way less than Okafor, plus he has two less years on his contract. Giddens would obviously just be a throw in. They also clear up more playing time for their rookie Casspi who's an upgraded and more talented version of Nocioni.
I love the move for the 76ers. They're getting back three expiring contracts for a player they no longer want. That's $13 million they'd be saving. It'd be a rough time to trade one of their bigs considering the injury to Speights, but I think they have to pull the trigger on this deal. Nobody is going to bite on Brand, so this is the next best thing.
The Celtics would be getting a player who's perfect for their squad. He's more of a Posey type than Daniels. Daniels actually isn't a Posey type player at all. The article mentions that Nocioni has 3 years and more than $20 million left on his contract, but what they don't mention is the third year is a team option. It'd still be a lot of money to take on for a player who'd only be playing 15-20 minutes a night. Plus you have to consider that Rondo's re-up kicks in next season, Allen/Daniels/House/Williams are unrestricted free-agents this summer and Pierce can opt out this summer (doubt he does).
tezo i think they just updated it after you posted yours lol. they mention it is a team option at the very end. but that does make a huge difference. nocionis is a perfect fit for the celtics. guy hates to lose and is a great team player full of hustle and energy.
Tezo, I believe there are 3 years guaranteed for Nocioni (including this season), and the 4th year is the team option. Not sure if that's what you meant.
If you have read any of my forum posts regarding the Sixers, you may have seen me mention a very similar trade scenario, which also involved Nocioni and Thomas being traded away. It also involved the Boston Celtics and ridding themselves of their seldom used expiring contracts.
My original proposal:
Sac gets: Elton Brand, Willie Green
Char gets: Andres Nocioni, Tony Allen
Phil gets: Raja Bell, Brian Scalabrine, Kenny Thomas
Bos: Vladamir Radmanovic.
Obviously with Bell and Radmanovic in Golden State, and Philadelphia needing Brand with the Speights injury, this scenario could never be. But I find new hope that a team like Sacramento might be willing to take a gamble on Dalembert. They might have to go back to the drawling board since Nocioni to Boston might be a tough one to swallow.
An alternative idea could be:
Sac gets: Samuel Dalembert, Tony Allen
GS gets: Andres Nocioni
Phil gets: Kenny Thomas, Brian Scalabrine
Bos gets: Vladamir Radmanovic
Because Radmanovic is the lone player traded from Golden State, he could be traded immediately despite just being traded. While he isn't as good of an all-around player as Nocioni, Radmanovic is an upgrade over Scalabrine & Tony Allen. He played with the Lakers during the championship run when they lost to the Celtics, so he has that experience in the playoffs. He is more accustomed to playing around 16 mpg than Nocioni; the most either could get in Boston. Plus he has a smaller, shorter contract than Nocioni. So for Boson, he would make more sense.
As for Golden State, they aren't set up to be in cap-clearing mode, so it would make sense to simply upgrade their player. Nocioni would bring leadership, better defensive effort, and better all-around scoring. Essentially the final outcome to the Stephen Jackson trade is Bell & Nocioni. Not too bad in the end.
Sacramento gets their guy, Philly gets the expiring contracts. So overall, this trade would make more sense to me.
They wouldn't get Nocioni. Daniels is better, and they don't need to have any more players on contract.
Word is that there is a 0% chance this trade goes down.
Yea my bad... Good catch. I meant that the last year, 4th year of his contract, has a team option.
if boston trades for anything it would be a good athlete cuz they dont have alot on their team. he would have to have some experience tho
Actually if Ray Allen asks for too much money it would be good to have depth at spots to give you the flexibility to let him go. Daniels can play the Allen Spot with Nocioni taking the Posey --energy guy off the bench.