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greg oden still hasnt learned not to foul

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greg oden still hasnt learned not to foul

ok ive watched the blazers play and i can now say that blake int the reason oden is picking up foul..oden is the reason..and he hasnt gotten better at not picking up fouls from last year because hes still averaging 4fouls a game just like last year..he hasnt learned to not try to block every shot or block without fouling...im tired of hearing people (especially tezo)..say hes a much better defender then bynum because he blk 1 more shot a game or that hes a better rebounder even though bynum averages more rebounds a game reguardles of minutes because its not bynums fault that oden cant stay on the floor long enough to get double figure rebounds..just like its not david lees fault even though he get more boards and plays more minutes then oden. part of being a good defender means not fouling a guy so much not just blocking shots..i rather pick a guy as a better defender who can challenge shots make people adjust there shots then a guy who half the time cant stay on the floor more then a 20min but blocks one more shot then the other guy..not saying oden isnt a good shot blocker or rebounder or that hes not good because he is and will only get better but hes still foul prone which he should learn not to be by now


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Hmm

Sounds like you are making the argument that Oden is not disciplined on defense. I would have to agree. He's like the anti- Shane Battier. Battier really doesn't make many highlight plays on defense because he is so disciplined and doesn't gamble, where a guy like Oden just goes after everything he sees, which ends up over inflating his block total. I used to love playing against guys like that for the reason you mentioned, they foul a lot. Those are the types of guys that you attack early and often so that they are not much of a factor through the course of the game. There are a lot of guys that would average more blocks if they went after everything and only played on the defensive end of the floor.

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Quincey... Give it a rest. I

Quincey... Give it a rest. I don't think anybody has ever said that Blake is the only reason for Oden's fouls lol. People have said that the Blazers' lack of perimeter defense puts added pressure on the Blazers' big men. With that being said, this is Oden's second season in the league and I think it's clear to everyone who follows the NBA that Oden is foul prone and that's one of the things he needs to work on. As I said in an earlier post, he has shown improvement the last few games and wasn't picking up fouls at such a high rate as he was to start the season. He was pretty disciplined foul wise twice versus the T-Wolves and the Hornets. Last night was the first game he fouled out this season.

Regardless of the fouls Oden picks up, he's a talented shot blocker and shot alterer. If you want to say Oden isn't as good as a defender as I think he is based on the standpoint that he fouls, then that's your opinion lol. I'm looking at it from the standpoint of what he's shown when he's not fouling. He defends one on one and on the weakside very well. He talks on the floor, has improved his pick and roll defense and his overall defensive IQ of what's going on on the floor is getting better.

As far as RPG goes... Oden is averaging 8.5 RPG in only 23.3 MPG. From an efficiency standpoint, that's pretty good. He's playing 15 MPG less per game than Bynum. If you want to say Bynum is the better rebounder because he plays more minutes and averages more rebounds, then that's also your opinion lol. Rebounds per 48 minutes wise, Oden is averaging 17.6 RPG (one of the best in the NBA) compared to Bynum's 14.6.

Oden is also currently second in the NBA in blocks averaging 2.46 BPG compared to Bynum's 1.43. That's 5.05 blocks per 48 minutes (one of the best in the NBA) compared to Bynum's 1.76.

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exactly double dribble..its

exactly double dribble..its pretty obvious..who cares about rebounds or point per 48min..lol..all teams and people care about is what you do not what you MIGHT do if you get 48 min..what you do wins titles here and now not what you MIGHT do in 48 min...come back and join the rest of us in reality and in reality bynum is the better rebounder scorer defender etc

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Yea, but in reality that's a

Yea, but in reality that's a good judge because not every player is going to play 38.9 MPG like Bynum is. Look at a player like Paul Millsap who plays behind Carlos Boozer. Millsap is a great rebounder, but his stats won't show that because he doesn't play as much as a Bynum. Same goes for Blair and yes...Pryzbilla. Even on a great night, Oden would never play that much because he has a starting caliber center behind him. Stats per 48 minutes is an excellent tool to measure a player's efficiency and rate at which they produce.

I'm done arguing with you man lol. You thrive on negativity and are a hater.

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