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To all the Derrick Rose haters...

This is to all you Derrick Rose haters who've been downplaying his ankle injury and it's significance, and who've been taking every opportunity to take shots at him, over criticize him and rank other point guards ahead of him though it's been less than ten games.

Other players are missing games due to ankle injuries (Tony Parker, Tim Duncan, Vince Carter, Ryan Anderson and soon to be Chris Paul to name a few), but Rose has played through the pain and not missed a game this season.
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Chicago Bulls Opponents limiting Derrick Rose's attacking style
By K.C. Johnson
Tribune reporter

November 13, 2009

Late Wednesday night in Toronto, Derrick Rose uttered the following in such a matter-of-fact manner that it almost downplayed the severity of its importance.

"There's no room to drive," Rose said.

Anyone who has watched the Bulls' first eight games has noticed Rose isn't attacking the rim with the same regularity as last season. He has had flashes, no doubt: The fourth quarters at home against the Bucks and visiting the Cavs come to mind.

And Rose's numbers -- 13.8 points per game, 5.6 assists, 45.2 percent shooting -- actually aren't that far from his Rookie of the Year averages of 16.8 points, 6.3 assists and 47.5 percent shooting.

BUT FIRST, ROSE SUFFERED A TENDON INJURY IN HIS RIGHT ANKLE THAT LIMITED HIS PRESEASON PARTICIPATION TO ONE GAME AND AFFECTED HIS GAME CONDITIONING. Now, defenses clearly are playing him more aggressively this season.

More often than not, guards pick Rose up fullcourt. Beyond that, double teams often come at him just past halfcourt.

Add in the fact John Salmons and Kirk Hinrich are struggling to hit jumpers and defenses are crowding the lane, limiting Rose's avenues to drive.

"Toronto made it real clear they wanted us shooting jump shots, so they were really forcing us and baiting us to come and drive," Rose said.

Of Rose's 47 field goals this season, 17 have come on either short floaters in the lane or fast-break layups or dunks. Thirty are on jumpers. In the loss to the Nuggets, Rose's 10 field goals came on nine jumpers.

That's a far cry from last season when Rose seemed to get to the rim at will. The Bulls still run primarily high screen-and-roll to try to free Rose, but more often than not, defenses are flushing Rose to the side off screens, forcing the Bulls to get ball reversal to get shots.

"I might be seeing a little more attention this year," Rose said. "BUT MOSTLY IT'S BECAUSE OF MY ANKLE AND NOT BEING IN GOOD GAME SHAPE TO START THE SEASON. I'm not worried about it."

ROSE'S MINUTES ARE INDEED DOWN AS WELL, WHICH CAN SKEW NUMBERS. HE'S AVERAGING 32.1 MINUTES THROUGH EIGHT GAMES AS OPPOSED TO 37 MINUTES LAST SEASON.

Coach Vinny Del Negro has admitted to taking a CONSERVATIVE APPROACH with Rose.

"HIS ANKLE IS GETTING BETTER, BUT IT'S STILL NOT 100 PERCENT," Del Negro said. "He has been a little more aggressive, which is what we need him to do. WE NEED DERRICK TO CONTINUALLY IMPROVE HIS ANKLE AND CONDITIONING, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE SMART ABOUT IT."

Rose worked exhaustively on improving his jumper during the offseason so the fact he's taking more of them isn't surprising. The fact the Bulls' offense isn't clicking like when Rose played at his peak last season is.

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Hate is such a strong word,

Hate
is such a strong word,

Marquee Players
Derrick Rose is the future of the Chicago Bulls
Brandon Jennings is the future of the Milwaukee Bucks
Eric Gordon is the future of the Los Angeles Clippers

Derrick Rose is a marquee player,
he's putting his career on the line and playing injured, gotta give him some respect and all the other players listed above
1 player's greatness don't subtract from another player's greatness

all wins and losses

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Yea, he has improved his

Yea, he has improved his mid-range game alot since last season...but even last year his mid-range was decent. He just doesn't have range yet, but when he does it will make him an elite scorer for a PG. He hasn't improved his playmaking passing as much as I thought he would though. That doesn't have much to do with his ankle, not saying his ankle hasn't had an effect on anything because it has, but his playmaking is not one of them. And it hasn't made the improvement I expected. He's still a great PG in the NBA, but until he improves his passing skills, he won't jump from great to elite.

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Derrick Rose is awesome and

Derrick Rose is awesome and there have been a lot of haters out there....He is better than Russell Westbrook lets get the cleared up and in my opinion will be the best PG in the league in 5 years...He combines the best of Deron on Paul in one

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as soon as he gets healthy,

as soon as he gets healthy, if people start throwing double teams at him as soon as he crosses the halfcourt its gonna creat a LOT of mismatches.... of only he still had ben gordon in the backcourt he could get a LOT of assists. also if they played a faster pace and people tried to double him like that the game would basically be instantly over.. rose is really good... but right now hes just trying to get his legs back... and as soon as he learns to distribute between double and triple teams he will be REALLY good..

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First off, you cannot

First off, you cannot compare injuries. They all effect players differently. A "sprain" is not an exact science--a "sprain" simply signifies that soft tissue has been torn. Even when saying something is a "bad sprain" or "mild sprain" still leaves statuses incomparable without the x-rays or MRI to see the actual torn tissue--only THEN can you make an argument that Rose is fighting through his injury while others are being weak in comparison by sitting out. The same logic applies to "strains" (ie. when tendons are stretched/strained/torn) and "breaks" (ie. bones). They are not universally interchangeable between subjects. They are all unique injuries.

That said with Rose's injury we can see how his athleticism is truly 90% of his game. Without his athleticism he suffers greatly. This is the same with most players in the NBA, but what separates the elite from the rest of the pack is when a player's SKILL supercedes their athleticism.

Anyway to truly "love" or "hate" Rose's game seems a bit premature either way. He has a lot to prove and a lot to learn still. He is a great athlete and has some nice tools to get into the paint. Will he put it all together? Who knows, but there's no way to tell yet, so stop all the extremisms and superlatives. I seriously hate NBA basketball sometimes because of all this hype sh*t.

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boo hoo cry me a

boo hoo cry me a river..obviously the other players injuries are more serious if they can barley walk ..rose missed preseason games to heal thats why he hasnt missed any regular season games..if he got hurt now like he did then he would have missed some regular season games also...and no ones hating just because they think someone else is better or potenially better then roe..thats a persons opinion..and no one is gonna start throwing double teams as soon as he crosses half court...that would be one of the dummest moves a team could do unless he starts hitting shots from half court or averaging 40 plus and neither is gonna happen..yes hes not 100 percent but i also believe the bull are also hurting without ben gordan..no one has replaced his scoring or clutch shooting or 4th quarter daggers..i thought slamons could do it a lil, not so much from three, but that hasnt happened..the bulls are in the same position they were in last year and the year they made the playoffs...like someone said hes a great althete and his jumper has improven a lil( still no threat from three) but as the injury shows he has to work on other part of his game cuz he cant be effective without his athletisim

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"But as the injury shows, he

"But as the injury shows, he has to work on other parts of his game because he can't be effective without his athleticism." First off, majority of young players would struggle if they suffered an injury that hurt their athleticism. Second, Rose is averaging 13.8 PPG, 45.2 FG%, 72.7 FT%, 2.9 RPG, 5.6 APG, 1.0 STL, .5 BLK and 2.5 TO, plus the Bulls are 4-4. That sure sounds like he's been effective without his athleticism to me. Once again, you're hating. Quincey... You're actually the biggest hater on his site.

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lets all cool down guys,

tezo likes Rose & Gordon
Hodges likes Jennings & Mayo

lets all agree that Rose is injured and it is affecting his slashing ability
which is his strongsuit

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Ahahahaha

Okeke is the only cool person here.

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There are a few players I

There are a few players I support and like more than others, but I'm just a fan of the game in general. Even if I'm not a fan of a player, I can still give him his credit where it's due. I don't hate just because I'm not a fan of a certain player. Quincey Hodges, Jakarii33, Kurtis.Formerly Josh Huestis. and Josh Huestis consistently hate for no reason just because they're not a fan of that player.

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QHaynes^

QHaynes^

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tezo

Ur d man... Derrick Rose is my guy and you know I am a Bulls fan... I kept reasoning out why people downplay him despite his constant dominance last season... He's playing hurt but he's doing a solid job in keeping my Bulls afloat...

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