Andrew Bynum and Greg Oden
Could you guys stop putting Oden in the same category as Bynum cuz they are not close as players! Bynum does everything better than Oden except block shots and Oden has a very low bball IQ. How can you say Bynum is injury prone and Oden isn't when Oden had the same injury and surgery that made Webber a totally diff player? And stop using the kareem excuse he was a great player but was known for 1 move it not like he's been working with Hakeem everyday. People its time to realize Oden will be a role player for his career and NEVER be dominate whereas Bynum can be dominate and will win a lot more rings. Its not close so stop bring him up with Bynum the only thing they have in common is they are both young centers. Also Bynum is only 3 months older than Oden so you can't use the age excuse cuz Bynum has as much potential.
Did you know it's Oden 2nd year and that it is Bynum 5th year? Give him time....
Like dicky V says , greg oden is Mr PO(tential). He shows flashes everyone once and a while but bynum is def. a notch above oden. I still think oden was the right pick at 1 considering they didnt need Durant and Hordford because they already had a PF and SG/SF.
having a center who can control the paint, rebound and play defense against any top big man in the league is very important. Oden can do all those things and portland is happy to have him. Bynum is on another level offensively, but oden is getting better. I just love bynums soft touch around the hoop and that he keeps the ball high using all his length. Oden still seems kinda robotic down low.
i agree, Bynum is the real deal, while the jury is still out on Oden. If Portland were smart they would try and hire a big man coach similar to Kareem who will just work out Oden and develop those post moves. As long as they dont hire Sam Bowie Oden will be fine, but as of right now I'd pick Bynum and it's not even close at this point
Yeah Bynum is a much better post player now...and is better then Oden ever will be offensively....Even if Oden doesn't develop a great post game he wont need to on that stacked team...He just needs toplay to his strengths, good defense, rebounding and shotblocking
Andrew Bynum is playing great right now and looks like he'll be the starting center for the all-star team. It's clear he's a better offensive player than Oden and will probably always be. Bynum has great feet, hands and excellent fundamentals around the rim. Bynum is a scorer. He's improved leaps and bounds since his first couple of years in the NBA and you can see the improvement from the work he put in with Kareem and what he's learned from Gasol. I love how he keeps the ball high and goes straight back up, runs the floor and posts hard. This is his fifth year in the NBA and he looks like he's busting out. I'm eager to see if he can keep his numbers up when Gasol returns.
With that being said... A lot of you are so busy hating on Oden, that you haven't realized that he's improving every game. He's currently averaging 9.9 PPG, .594 FG%, .810 FT%, 9.0 RPG (3.0 OFF) and 2.3 BPG in only 23.9 MPG. He's also cut back on his turnovers and isn't fouling as much as he was to start the season. He's now averaging 1.9 turnovers and 3.9 fouls per game. Oden is 100% healthy and hasn't missed a game so far. These are all encouraging signs for Portland. I've consistently said that we'll see a much improved Oden by the mid-point of the season.
A lot of you also need to realize that this is basically Oden's second season in the league. If he keeps up his current production, he'll have a MUCH better second season than Bynum had while playing close to the same amount of minutes per game. As a matter of fact, Oden's first season was better than Bynum's also. Give Oden some time.
Bynum has Kareem. Oden has Brian Grant.
Lol. Yea, they need to get Oden a big man coach.
yall keep saying its odens 2nd year and bynums 5th which is true but you arent taking into account that as oden gets better so will bynum and that bynum is only 3 months older then oden. also whos fault is it that bynum got help from a hof player?..no on is stopping oden from calling the dream to help him with his game during the summer..kobe did it why didnt oden?...those are excuses like saying" well he should be better cuz he worked harder during the offseason"..with all that said its not liek anyone is puttin goden down..hes developing nicely and is doing pretty well but bynum is just better then him and i think he will continue to be better...it would be different if this was bynums 5th year and he was much older then oden which mean he wouldnt have too many more years of getting better but like i said hes only months older then oden so he will be progressing just like oden will
Quincey... You're the biggest hypocrite on this site. You JUST said the other day that the only reason Rose was better than Jennings is because he had a year under his belt. NOW you're downplaying the fact that Bynum have four seasons of experience compared to Oden's one? You're a hypocrite man... Just stop posting.
Compare Bynum's first season to Oden's. Who was better? Oden is also on pace this season to have a better season than Bynum's second season.
You act like Bynum is the one who called Kareem lol. I'm sure it was something the Lakers staff did. The Blazers have hired two big man coaches. Maurice Lucas and Brian Grant. They're not in the Hall of Fame, but they can teach Oden a few things about the game. I still do think they need to hire an offensive big man coach to help Oden improve his offensive fundamentals, footwork and post moves. I'm sure that'll get done eventually.
Like I said... Oden will probably never be as skilled of a scorer as Bynum is (not a lot of centers in the NBA will), but he's already a better defender and will most likely be just as good as or a better rebounder than Bynum.
youre seeing but you obviously arent understanding..im giving rose the respect because hes played a year...and im not down playing that fact but im saying you cant use that as a crutch because as oden gets better so will bynum..and who cares about who did what in there first season?..you can use that when one player is alot older but these guys are basically the same age..and how you figure oden is a better defender then bynum?..based on just blocks?..oden gives up just as many points and fouls more..and how is oden just as good a rebounder or better when bynum is averaging more rebounds then oden?..that makes no sense..stop making up stuff to prove youre point. and you cant fault bynum for working with kareem when oden could have asked any hof centers to work with him so that whole topic is a excuse
Oden is playing almost 11 minutes less than Bynum per game and only averages two rebounds less than him. He's also blocking more shots.
You're a hypocrite Q. On one hand you're saying that Jennings will eventually pass Rose and the only reason Rose is better than him now is because of the year he already has under his belt.
On the other hand, you're downplaying the fact that Bynum has four years of experience compared to Oden's one. Oden had a better first season than Bynum and is on track to having a better second season than Bynum, BUT yet you say there's no chance to pass Bynum because it's not like Bynum won't be improving as Oden is. You're a hypocrite because you're not using that same logic with Rose. How come you're not saying that, "It's not like Rose won't be improving as Jennings is?" You're a hypocrite man and if anybody makes stuff up to prove a point, it's you.
so wait thats youre arguement?..he plays more minutes thats why he gets more rebounds?..im guessing blair i a better rebounder then both cuz he gets less minutes and can out score them if he got more minutes...forget about the fact that bynum has already had a max rebounding game of 17 while oden is 12...so prizbilla is a better ebounder then oden too cuz he gets less minutes?...so whereis me making stuff up to prove my point?..bynum is a better rebounder..men lie women lie numbers dont buddy..other then youre opnion you have zero proof that oden is a better rebounder..just because you say so dont make it so. and i cahnged my mind about rose being better...jennings is better..playing better and busted rose azz..and since you wanna use the " look at oden first year and look at bynums"..how about look at rose first couple of games and look at jennings....look up nba.com and compare both set of players for youre PROOF...hmmmmmmmm
since ur mind is warped Tezo's argument is:
1) will probably never be as skilled of a scorer as Bynum is (not a lot of centers in the NBA will)
2) but he's already a better defender
3) and will most likely be just as good as or a better rebounder than Bynum.