I know its early and a lot of people may give me negatives but instead of all the westbrook and rose debates I think jennings has passed both of them. He some how steps up in big games and outplays the bigger named point guard and for everybody that goes by team success remeber people were saying the bucks may be the worst in the league. He's going to win rookie of the year and kill westbrook and rose in the rookie sophmore game! He's surprising a lot of people should have never went any lower than the 4th pick. Imagine Jennings playing in the knicks system he could go for 25 and 8 a night
you should be shot for saying such stupidities
How has he passed them because he's score more than them?
He's going to do well against big guards he's just too quick for them but its hasn't even been 10 games yet.
Big difference is he's hitting his jumper while in Europe the shot was off.
Hes barely played 10 games and you labelling the next best pg of the league
you deserve every negative you get
he could shoot while in europe..thing is he didnt have enough time to come back and hit another shot after missing 2 which made it look like his shot was off...and although i lik ejenning and i think he will eventually be better then rose he is not better then them right now(although if he keeps getting wins and playing like he has i will have to change that statement) its only been 7 games...but there has been a theme..we say..its only been 2 game..then its only been 5 game..now its only been 7 or 8 games...as far as being too quick. for big guards...hes too quick for small guards as well he went against maybe the most physical pg in the nba in billup then maybe the quickest in lawson...he blew pass lawson a couple times(not counting the picks) because he isnt just quick but his handles keeps you from knowing where hes gonna go...and the best thing is hes left handed..all things being equal left handed guys are harder to check then right handed
I think he is a very good PG but I dont think he will ever be better than Rose I see Rose as the best PG in the league in a few years. But I like Jennings game alot I think he will definatly be a allstar and easily be a top 5 PG one day.
and this will be the next new debate...whos gonna be better rose or jennings...i know rose has him wit the body and probably will always..rose has him by .5 inches hight wise..jennings is a much better shooter though and on par athleticly..i also think he has him in the handles department..and jennings has more of a im the best there is swagger while rose is more of the im the man sometimes swagger...experience counts for a lot so right now of course imma give it to rose on top of jennings hasnt played enough games yet..
He clearly has passed those two! Rose still isn't a pg and Westbrook hasn't really impressed me yet. Jennings is behind more than a handful including Parker Paul Williams Nash Harris etc. but clearly has passed those two. He is a better pg fit especially with the team he is on that is coached by a former NBA point guard.
im one of the bigger supporters for jennings but i cant say he has passed those guys when the season is just getting started..i think he will but i cant say he has now..esspecially westbrook who has been playing very very well( im not sure why he hasnt impressed you when hes impressed everyone else in the nba but go figure)...now if jennings continues to play liek hes been playing then the debate can really begin but since its been what 6-8 games then its not valid...have to wait till at least the second half of the season when players start getting tired from the long seasona nd teams start to have defenses set up to stop players
Neither one of you have any sense.
Quincey... First, how can you say Jennings is a "much better" shooter than Rose? Based on what... Ten games lol? Rose has shown that he can CONSISTENTLY hit that mid-range jumpshot. Jennings didn't shoot well in Europe. He's shot well for ten games and you're already saying he's a "much better" shooter than Rose. Comical.
Second, Jennings is NOT in any way imaginable on par with Rose athletically. You're losing more and more credibility with every post you make. Jennings is a great athlete, but he is NOT in Rose's class athletically. You should be smacked for saying that.
Third, Jennings is a great ball handler, but once again... So is Rose, so how can you say Jennings has him based on ten games?
Fourth, you put too much stock in swagger. Look at a player like Tim Duncan. He doesn't have a lot of swagger, but he will eat you for breakfast. Rose is like Duncan. He's quiet and still working on his vocal skills, but his swagger is all inner. Swagger is all about confidence and Rose has tons of that.
Fifth, it's your opinion that Jennings will pass Rose, but it's not likely.
Sup... Jennings has "clearly" passed those two? Wow... Based on ten games? Did you say Rose still isn't a poing guard lol? You have literally no understanding of basketball for you to say something as ridiculous as that.
how you figure he isnt in his class?..hes faster and has a 40inch vertical..so how you figure its not close?..and jennings percentage was down only because hed miss to and come out..youre going by just stats but ive actually watched some of his games and if you did you would know why his percentages were down...and rose is not duncan..duncan was a much better player then rose from day one when he cam einto the leauge..and obviously rose needs a lil more swagger and start trying to take over games since his team hasnt shown its all that good this year and i think its very likely he will pass rose..hes doing everything that rose did his first year except better on a worst team..while also busting roses azz in a head to head match up..i dont think hes better now though only cuz he hasnt been in the nba long but hes a better shooter has better court vision and better killer instinct right now..rose and eric gordan should take a page from the book of jennings..lol
- What are you judging by? The draft combines Quincey lol? It's widely known that Rose had knee tendonitus during the combine, not to mention... OJ Mayo tested off the charts too... I guess that means he's just as athletic as Rose. Mike Conley is too!
- Jennings is a good shooter, better than most people thought, but you can't say he's a "much better" shooter than Rose based on TEN games. Rose hit the mid-range jumper consistently for a whole season plus the playoffs.
- Did I compare Rose's game to Duncan's? No. I compared their swagger. Swagger isn't just about having style, being cocky, pounding your chest or taking over games. Duncan isn't cocky nor does he pound his chest. Swagger is confidence no matter how you show it. Rose has all the confidence he needs. He's taken over plenty of games in the fourth quarter in his young career. Just because Rose isn't cocky doesn't mean he doesn't have TRUE swagger.
- He busted Rose's ass in a head to head matchup? Lol... Who won the game? Who blocked who's shot to seal the victory? Once again Q... You're putting too much stock into the wrong things. Rose would take a victory on a bad ankle over winning the statistical battle any day of the week.
im judging by just watching jennings..how he blows by people...most basketball players play with tendonitus..man you have every excuse for rose...his nee his ankle ..whats next " he got out played because he couldnt find no one to accept payment to play for him"....yeah the bulls won the game but are we talking about the bucks vs the bulls or rose vs jennings..whats the right things to put it on?..records?..because jennings has lead his team to a better record so far with less talent..and rose didnt hit the mid range consitanly the whole season..check out his true shooting minus layups....and the bulls should have won the game..they suppossedly have better players..and jennings doesnt beat on his chest but he has that swagger that you liek in players..the kobe lebron dwade swagger
on top of that he still cant hit the three..22percent last year and 0percent this year..compared to jennings 45percent from three...MUCH BETTER
now from my history of posts everyone knows i'm a brandon jennings stan, ever since he was in high school. but i have to say i think he is a better point guard then rose and westbrook, but i think rose is the better player, i think rose and westbrook or still two players who are trying to become point guards, while brandon jennings IS a point guard. I still look at Rose as being a Dwayne Wade type of player who can get players involved but is not a true pg, right now it seems as if his game is suffering because he's trying hard to get teammates involved and be a point guard. and westbrook is having the same growing pains.
rose better player
jennings better point guard.
hmmm intersting..i think right now he is..i still feel jennings will be the better pg and player int he future..he has a chris paul type future while being left handed which is a plus..thats the swagger he has..chris paul swagger
Rose is better player but is close and when we talk about being close to the guy who could be better than Mr.CP3 is the future , that's is something SPECIAL....i'm just keep telling Jennings vs Evans could be even better debate for ORY than Rose vs Mayo. I LOVE IT! Hard comeback seems to be for Blake
yeah..which is why im saying right now rose is better but to me that has more to do with him already going through a year of nba basketball. what does kind of suprise me is that jennings is actually rebounding better then evans (by only .2)...he seems to know where to go to get the rebound plus it helps that he has major bunnies
1.He's The Best Rookie.
2.Better Than Westbrook,Rose,And Will Be Better Than Rondo with Some More Games.
3.Please Stop Hating On The Young Man.
yet tezo thinks im crazy..and look you have more negitive points and i didnt even give them too you yet again...i understand tezo its tough when youre a clippers fan..its like calling some one a bad word "what you call me....a clippers fan...those are fighting words"..lol...but anyway yeah jennings is a beast ben gordan not being in chi town is really hurting rose
i like salmons and all but i would go back to the smaller lineup and bring salmons off the bench if you look at games, rose plays better when he and hinrich are on the court together, he doesn't have to control the ball as much, he's not a point guard he can be but, i think he would be better suited at the 2.-D-Wade style.
ok, instead of just laughing i'll say something
yes, hes got a ton of game, i wanted the raptors to take him, and slide Jose to the 2, which i personally believe he would be more confortable, but the knicks should have taken him.
but he can be REALLY special, in a few years, there will be a debate about whose better between him, rose and westbrook, but you cant say hes passed them now, its been 10 games, maybe next year, or the year after, but not now, definetly not
I know I could catch alot of flack for this, but I think Jennings will be a better PG than both Rose and Westbrook by the end of the season. He actually does alot of things better than Rose and Westbrook at this stage of their respective careers. He's a better scorer than both of them, has more range on his shot, and is a better playmaking passer than both of them. He also manages the game extremely well, better than the both of them. He isn't a better defender than Westbrook, and he's probably on par with Rose (both are good at pressuring the ball, but lack the awareness to put it all together most of the time). I will also say that he is at or extremely close to their level of athleticism too. Brandon Jennings should be a top 3 or 4 PG in basketball in about 2 years, and as of right now he's probably better and more advanced in terms of his skill set than either Rose or Westbrook. Just to be honest.
You're judging by watching Jennings and how he blows by people? I guess Rose doesn't blow by people lol. Athleticism is more than just blowing by people. Jennings is a great athlete, but he's NOT on par with Rose as an overall athlete PERIOD. You can say the knee tendonitus that Rose had during the combine is an excuse all you want. It's a known fact he had it. It was talked about all during summer league. He still tested off of the charts though.
The Bulls WON the game... PERIOD. We can talk about Rose vs Jennings... Rose locked Jennings up and blocked his shot one on one to win the game. Enough said. You continue to prove your ignorance... Using who has the better record after only ten games into the season lol.
It's been TEN games and you're already saying Jennings can shoot "much better" than Rose. Rose showed that hit can hit the mid-range jumpshot on a consistent basis last season. Jennings is shooting 45% from 3-point now, but it's only been TEN games lol. Ask the Celtics if Rose has swagger.
You've never heard me say I'm a Clippers fan. I root for Eric Gordon. You just love to hate. And let's not talk about negatives. There's somebody disagreeing with you and questioning your knowledge every day.
im trying my best to continue to say rose is better because its only been 10 games but the more i watch jennings the harder it becomes to say it..especially when i look at how rose and westbrook played there rookie years and the fact that the bucks arent that good but jennings is leading them to wins... and his defense is actually better then i thought..watching him make billups take and miss bad shots really is convincing me that he coul dbe a force on defense..liek most rookies his mind does seem to wonder on d but that will be fixed...him being a better future pg doesnt suprise me though after watching him since he was a soph at domingez hs and how everyone(including me) seemed to think he was destined to be great and that he was one of the best pg in the nation as a soph. his ability to see the floor, pass to people when they are in perfect position to score and play the fast pace game as well as half court game is just uncanny for someone thats only a rookie..he will take his lumps and go through slumps( although i wont be suprised if he doesnt) but that year overseas was probably the best thing that has ever happened to his game
well as you can see im not the only person that thinks what i think about jennings....need i even say more as far as a responses............
Based on TEN games Iggy lol??? You've seen enough out of Jennings in ten games to say he could be better than both Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook by the end of the season? Crazy. Not too long ago, you said that Rose could literally CHANGE/REVOLUTIONIZE the point guard position. Now, you're saying Jennings will be better than him by the end of the season? Ha ha.
certain players you dont have to see awhole lot of to knwo they are special..i wathed lebron for one game in hs and said" that kid is special"...did the same thing after watching kobe in the summer leauge..although it was only hs and summer leauge some guys you can just see that "IT" factor in them..and jennings just shows it..
So now you're saying that Jennings has the "it" factor like Kobe and LeBron lol??? Earlier you said he had that Chris Paul, Dwayne Wade and Kobe Bryant swagger. After TEN games playing for the Bucks who have no expectations lol? I can't take any more of this.
Jennings is going to be a great point guard, but let's just stop. You have your opinion and I have mine. Let's just end it there.
I mean, he can revolutionize the PG position...in a sense that he has a chance to be the 1st big,fast,strong PG in the NBA with guys like Brandon Knight and John Wall following behind, but that doesn't mean he's not capable of being slightly worse than a generic-sized PG who has better skills than him. It's not like this is some kind of fluke, if you watch him you'll see that there is an extremely slim chance he just bombs out and sucks or put up average stats. He's a very great player. And this isn't a knock on how Rose is playing or not playing...it's just an indication of how well Jennings has been playing.
im not sure you are reading what im saying.....i said watching him even after 10 games i can come with the opinion i did..then i used kobe and lebron as an example of how you dont need to see a bunch of games for some player to know they are special..are you understanding now??....right now i can just go by the fact sso far...jennings punished rose...rose team won the game but jennings has lead his team to a better record..jennings is playing much better then rose so far this year..hes shooting better then rose this or last year and shootin git from 3 muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch better then rose who hasnt even made a three this year and shot 22% last year..right now hes better then rose in every catagory other then ast 5.6-5.2 and turnovers 3.3-2.5 although jennings has less talent to score off of his ast he still gets it
thats a very good point iggy..its not like anyone is saying rose is bad..just saying jennings is just that goodits funny cuz the same resons that are being used here are almost the same that were being used to why gordan fans think gordan is better then mayo...head to head match up,wins,shooting percentages etc
My friend busted BJ his senior year of high school, when they had Tiny and a couple other folks... He really didn't impress me with his game fundementals (Im a big advocate of working hard to get better) but you can see a MILE away the talent was there... I said it before I really feel D. Rose isn't that great of playing the PG role... He does things that are very simple and doesn't see plays before it happens... What we call Vision... BJ has that... BJ is more of a PG than both Westbrook and Rose, but not a better player.... His swag is great because he will never get down on himself and will compete (at least offensively) in games, but will lead to serious turnovers and bad shots... He gambles too much on defense and really don't sit down to play it... Jennings jumper is decent, but some of you are giving him too much credit for it.. Over 50%? With the amount of bad shots he takes? He have to think its only a hot streak and those numbers will come down... The talent is there... And the Athleticism is just as good as D. Rose... BJ is only 6 foot... So, I might say he's more impressive to watch... A more flashy A.I.? The league needed a flashy guy for a long time now... And they might have one in him...
are you talking about jennings then or now.?..cuz jennings now each game has taken less and less bad shots..hes been getting seperation on each shot he takes..the only bad shots he seems to take in the past couple of games have less to do with the shot and more to do with him fading away sometimes which im sure will be fixed as time goes on. which game (highschool)did youre boy play against jennings and oakhill by the way?..just curious
He has rarely taken bad shots from what I've seen. Your going to take a few bad shots a night if you have the ball in your hands alot like Jennings has, but he's really been good about taking pretty quality shots from what I've seen. And he's not quite as turnover prone as I expected.
yeah im guessing hes talking about how jennings used to play because he took a coupel of bad shots in his second game but other then that hes taken no more and actually less then other leading scorers for there teams...just needs to stop fading away so much on some of his shots when he doesnt have too...alot of young players fad thought untill they are taught to go straight up and down on the shot which he actually does pretty well when hes not fading...
Regardless if you open or not thats a bad shot... Didn't he have 4 turnovers last night? And the game before that? 5 right? A 3.5 turnover stat he's one of the league leaders... In fact he's leading all rookies...
Show me one shot where he doesn't fade.... That's his shot... I'm talking selection.... Even if he hits a bad shot, its STILL bad...