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Dissapointing Rookies?

Have any rookies you had high expectations of been disappointing so far?


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I've been disappointed in

I've been disappointed in James Johnsons inability to crack the Bulls rotation, I know a lot of rookies don't get time early, but Del Negro proved he'd play a rook if they earned it ( Taj Gibson) I expected more from Johnson

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Ok, im sure everybodys going

Ok, im sure everybodys going to say Thabeet, Hill, Holiday, simply because they're highly talked about young guns, but can barely crack there teams rotation

But Im going to go with Terrence Williams...going into the season, it was known that he would be competing with Courtney Lee and CDR for playtime....They're both out with injuries(is swine flu an injury?).

And Devin Harris is also out with an injury, so that leaves T-Will and BLopez as the go-to guys on the squad..by default. So, what makes T-Will disappointing is the fact that hes not capitalizing on this opportunity, especially on an 0-7 team. Hes averaging 10ppg, 5 rpg, 2apg.

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clark, thabeet,harden now

clark, thabeet,harden now off these high drafts they should be able help the team now and not later

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I still

I still don't understand why the grizzlies went for thabeet. It would've been just awesome had they picked any other guy...like jennings....curry... somebody who could have battled conely for starting pg. Hell, they could've went with evans and slid mayo to PG like he's been expressing interest in...

I haven't seen ANY defensive killer instict from thabeet, and it probably will be awhile now with his broken jaw and all.

Just gotta say thanks to the grizzlies owner once again, he makes a choice on his feelings and not what's best for the franchise.

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i think twill is doing

i think twill is doing pretty well ..there are other options like cdr who is playing pretty well and courtney lee who are both better and more experienced then twill right now..even in college twill was never a top notch scorer so i didnt really expect him to be one in his rookie year either..i mean hes 5th amoung rookies in scoring while battling with 2 other players who play his position, 2nd in rebounding, and 8th in ast while playing only 27min a game...i think thats pretty good

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Dissapointments

Thabeet- I said he would be and he is. averaging 6 min a game in memphis averaging .6 of a point and 1.6 rebounds. He did have 4 block shots in 12 min at denver which is very impressive but if he can't prove to the coaching staff at memphis that he should start over horrible players then who can he prove this to?

Gerald Henderson- Unlike Thabeet I thought henderson would do decent in the nba this season. But he can't crack the rotation in charrlote even with his high basketball iq. When rookies are not used on bad teams it makes me wonder why that team drafted them.

Jordan Hill- First of all Hill should be starting in my opinion or why did they draft him? They new there best player Lee played the same position and idk why they would draft a bench player when they have so many other gaps. Especially now if they think there going to keep Lee if Lebron comes to town.

James Harden- Now I'm an Okc fan and i DON'T THINK Harden is dissapointment but i find the way there putting him in the rotation is making it hard for him to get good numbers but he is a great fit for them and when he develops more offensive game he deserves big minutes and he will but up big numbers as will most the people i put on this list

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Thabeet doesn't have to

Thabeet doesn't have to prove to anyone he can "start over horrible players" this season. The "horrible player" starting at center for Memphis is Marc Gasol who is averaging 16 points and 11.4 rebounds per game. No one, including Memphis front office guys, coaching staff or players expected Thabeet to start right away or put up those kind of numbers. I know he was the #2 pick and therefore setting him up for some more immediate expectations, but he is a project, everybody knows that and 10 games into his rookie year 4 blocks in 12 minutes looks pretty damn promising.

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cheesy

i don't know who said he'd come in to "start over horrible players"...but that just sounds cheesy. I think marc gasol is a quality center in this league and definitly showed it last year. People were screaming that thabeet was the Sh*t and A GOD..and amazing...and the next mutumbo...while I sat back looking at the problem the grizz were having at the 4...which they looked like they somewhat fixed with randolph..so far. 20 and 10 is nothing to laugh about with randolph playing for the grizz.

I was practically running an anti-thabeet campaign on this site predraft and draft night.

joewolf, heisly did have an amazing love for thabeet

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Yeah, but you can't judge a

Yeah, but you can't judge a player like Thabeet 10 games in to his rookie season. I mean, you can, but it's not an accurate reading, he'll be getting more minutes in the 2nd half, its safe to say Memphis took a gamble for the future by drafting Thabeet, i'm not saying the front office guys weren't high on him, just that they didn't expect him to show up to camp, start, and grab 11 rebounds and block 3 shots a night right out of the gate.

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i believe that

definitly can't judge the guy this early by something no rookies ever average.

What I'm simply stating is there were bigger needs at pg and pf...so drafting thabeet wasn't the best of choices.

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Yeah, agreed, at least

Yeah, agreed, at least Carroll can play a little pf for the Grizz and I think he is going to be a very good garbage man type player.

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man

man i like what i see outta carrol. give the kid a more consistent jumpshot and the grizzlies have a go-to bench man.

love the energy and hustly from this kid, gotta say carrol was a big steal.

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Yea

I'm not saying Gasol is a bad player that was a miss choice of words. But Gasol is not amazingly good and Thabeet was the 2nd pick in the draft and is already around 22 years old so its not like he is a project. But he is and thats the problem i have with him

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Yea

I'm not saying Gasol is a bad player that was a miss choice of words. But Gasol is not amazingly good and Thabeet was the 2nd pick in the draft and is already around 22 years old so its not like he is a project. But he is and thats the problem i have with him

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Rookie

Rookie Disappointments:

Jordan Hill is a disappoint because I thought he would be a fixture in the rotation for the Knicks given his explosive athleticism and speed combined with their lack of a true big man. I thought he could average about 10 and 8 immediately. He plays kinda weak (which I never expected) and he lacks awareness (which I did expect) and those two things, along with his lack of polish on both ends of the floor have led to an underwhelming rookie year for Jordan Hill.

Earl Clark is a disappointment because isn't quite ready to step up offensively. He's unpolished offensively`and he's also a little too weak to be real effective. He's already a decent defender and rebounder, but he doesn't seem to understand the spacing that Phoenix needs to run their offense and he's not going as big a threat as Grant Hill or even Jared Dudley yet. He isn;t even a rotation player yet either.

Thabeet is a disappointment of course. I can't say I didn't see this coming.

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Thabeet barely gets time,

Thabeet barely gets time, with 6 mins a game and ten games into the season how can you say now that he will be a dissappointment. He barely played an hour in the NBA (gotten slightly better with every game) and your allready making judgement for the rest of the year and his career.

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The fact that he's played 6

The fact that he's played 6 per game and being the #2 pick is disappointing, wouldn't you say? He's obviously not doing something right.

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Not judging the rest of his

Not judging the rest of his career, but how often does a number TWO pick overall not even make his teams rotation?

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Well give him some credit,

Well give him some credit, he didnt ask to be selected by the grizzilies who already were set in the center position and dont share the ball. I think hes been thrown into a situation which makes him seem like a bust but he hasnt had a chance to prove himself

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the girzz choked. He might

the girzz choked. He might still be a real solid player, but I don't see him and Gasol playing well together, so they basically have two young promising centers who are gonna take minutes from each other. And with Guys like Evans and Jennings still on the board who look like future all-stars right now, I think the Grizz know they made a mistake. And the funny thing is that most people on this site were saying they shouldn't go with Thabeet before the draft even took place, so it's not like we are just jumping to quick conclusions or we're playing monday morning quarterback, I thought he was a mistake from the get go.

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"he didnt ask to be selected

"he didnt ask to be selected by the grizzilies who already were set in the center position and dont share the ball."

Nobody really asks to be selected by a team, and the Grizz aren't exactly "set" at center. The fact that he isn't even getting backup minutes is calls for calling him a disappointment. I mean, who is their back-up center? Thought so...

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Thabeet

4 points and 11 rebounds would be ok for a rookie in his first game or so, but for the first 7 games combined! I really hope Thabeet has a productive year and career and its still very early to tell but these signs aren't encouraging.

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If thabeet was picked 1 pick

If thabeet was picked 1 pick later to OKC you could argue that he would have a completely different start. I do know that he wasnt worth the number 2 pick, but he has a great amount of potential and i dont think the grizzlies is the right place for him to tap into that potential

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If thabeet was picked 1 pick

If thabeet was picked 1 pick later to OKC you could argue that he would have a completely different start. I do know that he wasnt worth the number 2 pick, but he has a great amount of potential and i dont think the grizzlies is the right place for him to tap into that potential

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!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERES A REASON THAT HE IS ONLY GETTING 6 MINUTES A GAME AND THATS BECAUSE HE'S NOT THAT GOOD!!!!!!

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James Johnson

Echo to joewolf... I thought that he'd have more minutes by now especially after that buzzer-beating win against the Jazz in London in which James Johnson was the hero... Heck, Taj Gibson is finding more minutes than him recently... and to think many of us were thinking Gibson would be joining Jerome James in the bench cheering and doing high five for the players during time-outs...LOL

Gerald Henderson is another one... It was pretty clear that the Bobcats have a hole at the 2-spot with Raja Bell being the only guard option at 2... Henderson should have had more minutes but he hasn't... He gets fewer minutes every game...

Thabeet is a project that's why I didn't expect a lot from this guy...

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