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Steve Nash and Russell Westbrook (READ FIRST PLAESE)

Im not comparing the 2 but how can somebody ask if Nash is the best point in the league so far when he turns the ball over 4.6 times a game and give little effort on defense? When I had a post yesterday about Westbrook being a better point than Rose I got alot of negative feedback because he turns the ball over 5.2 times a game and the guy give the same effort on defense as offense? Thats what i'm talking about with people on this site how can you be considered the best at your position when you cant guard anybody at your position? Im not saying westbrook is better than Nash but for people saying he's not a point because of his turnovers what is Steve Nash cuz he's turning the ball over about the same as Westbrook? I give Nash alot of credit for playing great so far on offense tho and getting his team back to winning! Maybe it was Shaq teams seem to get better after he leaves now it's like he's killing the chemistry???


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Well.....I am kinda confused

Well.....I am kinda confused that you would even put the two in the same sentence but i am pretty sure almost everybody would agree with me when sayin Steve Nash is definatley the better pg. Westbrook will be VERY good, but there is just no comparison between the two right now, even though you said u arent comparing them when you actually are

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I think people are just

I think people are just getting caught up in how explosive and athletic Westbrook is and not how good an actual basketball player he is. He's the most overrated player by the users of this website to me.

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i'm with iguodala, i really

i'm with iguodala, i really dont see why he is getting such high praise. he looks to be budding into a good player but i also think that the man is seriously overrated right now

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i'm with iguodala, i really

i'm with iguodala, i really dont see why he is getting such high praise. he looks to be budding into a good player but i also think that the man is seriously overrated right now

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Okay, Iguodala I'm not trying to be a dick and I know this isn't what the topic is about, but r u really saying people are getting too hyped about Westbrook because he is an amazing athlete who doesn't do much else? I gotta call u out on that because I'm pretty sure that that's all Iguodala is also and u are always singing his praises. It's ludacris that u think Westbrook is overrated, when even I who is from Chicago and has season tickets to the Bulls thinks Westbrook is much better over all than Rose. And whoever made this post has a great point. How come when Nash averages 4 turnovers per game and has been a point guard for 13 pro seasons and doesnt play a lick of defense gets so much praise, and then Westbrook who has played the point guard for 1 year averages 5 turnovers everyone says he isn't a pure point guard. Quit hating on Westbrook and also stop over rating Iguodala.

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what a dumb post beanz. just

what a dumb post beanz. just posting the turnovers and not the assists. nash is averaging 13 assists and westbrook only has 8. the suns are my favorite team and the thunder are my second favorite, but steve nash is one of the best PGs of all time. the dude defines the word Point Guard. Westbrook is going to be an absolute beast in a couple of years. the guy is so explosive its scary.

im just confused as to why you would compare two entirely different players. sure they play the same position but two very different players

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you took the thoughts out of my head...you are DEAD RIGHT...beanz doesnt know wat hes talking about

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Iguodala is much more than

Iguodala is much more than an amazing athlete that doesn't do anything else. I'm not going to argue with you because you sound exactly like what you were trying not to sound like: a dick.

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If you read the post im not

If you read the post im not comparing them as players or point guards i was saying nash is getting a free pass with the turnovers when westbrook gets buried about his and people say hes not a true point. read the post b4 you type something stupid

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You talk about how many

You talk about how many turnovers Nash has and not how many assists he has. Westbrook has more turnovers and about 5 less assists per game. He also doesn't provide the shooting threat Nash does. And Nash does try to defend, it's not like he doesn't put up an effort, he's just limited athletically.

Westbrook is super turnover prone. His turnovers are a result of silly passes and mistakes from what I've seen this season. Nash's are because he makes almost every single play for his team and has the ball in his hands the vast majority of the time on the floor, so he's going to turn it over at a pretty high rate. Westbrook lead the NBA in total turnovers last year, and does again this year.

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this is only his second year

this is only his second year playing point my whole thing was why do people talk so bad about him and turnovers and not nash? i said he was better than rose and people talk about his turnovers and not that he was given the team like rose and has played his butt off and has improved alot he doesnt get the credit he deserves for putting in hard work the guys a beast. yeah he turns the ball over but he does alot of good things and his team is winning in a tough conference

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how does rose het the injury

how does rose het the injury excuse when everybody is hurt look how messed up kobes hand was and he won mvp when he should have gotten surgery? westbrook is better so stop making excuses and talking bad about him. him and rose will be in the top 3 points in 2 years and that will be special I cant wait to see them go head to head when do they play?

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I don't know the dude, but i

I don't know the dude, but i agree with beanz

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look, I believe nash and westbrook are great players, both of which are better than derrick rose at this point. But nash is years, YEARS ahead of westbrook. Yes nash turns the ball over alot but (first) look he runs a fast paced offense (which just hung 110 pts on the celtics btw..), (second) he has the ball in his hands at all times in that offense, (third) he makes every shot/play/assist there is to make at the end of the game, (fourth) last time i checked the suns lead the western conference. Its not all about turnovers, but once RW averages more than 10 assists and is in the same league as chris paul in a few years, i would not compare him to a two time MVP.

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Kobe played with an injured

Kobe played with an injured pinkie! Not saying that his injury wasn't serious... Just saying that playing on a severely sprained ankle is a lot worse than playing with an injured pinky. An injured pinky doesn't affect the way you pivot, cut, change directions, jump and run. An injured pinky doesn't affect your speed, quickness and explosiveness. You also have to think... It's not just Rose's injured ankle. It's the fact it kept him out all of training camp. This isn't a minor sprain or tweak here. He sat out every summer league/pre-season game and practice. He's not only playing through the ankle injury, he's also playing himself into shape.

Westbrook is a good, not great, player. His style of play is exciting. He's a very good on ball defender, explosive and athletic. He's a live wire type of player and people like that. However, let's not get confused people. Other than on the ball defense, he does absolutely nothing better than or even equal to Derrick Rose. If you know anything about basketball, other than what you see on sportscenter or youtube, you'd know that Rose is a better point guard and player than Westbrook. You guys are probably the same people who thought Vince Carter was better or just as good as Kobe Bryant.

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I know, I sometimes have to

I know, I sometimes have to question whether or not some of you watch actual basketball games and not just highlight reels. Because like Tezo said, you wouldn't legitimately question why Westbrook is criticized more than Nash for his HIGHER number or turnovers or say he's a better player than Derrick Rose. I've never heard this kind of stuff before.

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Nash>Westbrook

Westbrook definitely has the potential but as of now Nash is the better Point Guard.Nash has experience and as of now a better understanding of the game. No doubt Westbrook is a better defender and a more explosive athlete but Nash is the better overall Point Guard getting his team involved and more importantly getting his team W's.

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Ha ha... I can't believe you

Ha ha... I can't believe you even felt the need to post "Nash>Westbrook" lol. My God...

Westbrook even being mentioned in the same breath as Nash right now is absolutely affirmatively absurd.

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People... Don't get so

People... Don't get so caught up in how much you like the guy because of how exciting he is or how he dunks. Look at the skill set. Look at the way he runs the team. Look at the way he protects the ball. Look at how he lets the game come to him and picks/chooses his spots. Look at how/when he gets his teammates the ball. Look at the SKILL SET people. Basketball isn't just about dunking and being exciting.

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Right

I felt the need because people weren't getting the fact of how much Nash affects his team and gets everyone involved and wins games. Hence his two MVP's. And your exactly right people think just because a player can do sick dunks and acrobatic moves that they are better. The players who get their teammates involved and win are the ones who should be recognized as the better players and a lot of people need to understand that.

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Did you guys even read the

Did you guys even read the original post? He's saying how can you discredit westbrook for turnovers, and downplay his defense, then totally disregard those two aspects when talking about nash, thus creating a double standard when judging pgs. THERE WAS NO QUESTION ABOUT WHO WAS BETTER. It's amazing how many people cannot read on this site...

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yeah but...

westbrook also shot below 40% from the field last year, which is pathetic. He is still a project, but he is more advanced then most projects.

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Well

You can live with 4.6 turnovers when your shooting and passing the way Nash is. Also its the style of offense they play too. Not to mention they have the best record and knocked off the Celtics to. I don't think it was Shaq killing the chemistry he played pretty well last year. As for Westbrook 8 asts and over 5 turnovers thats not a good ratio esp. for a guy who takes 14 shots a game. He has twice as many turnovers as Durant who takes 7 more shots a game than him too. They don't score enough to cover that many turnovers but he's young and he'll get better. Tonight Westbrook had 6 asts and only 1 turnover but OKC lost becaz they shot only 40% and were outrebounded by 15.

Also the lack of defense was rarely bought up when talking about Mark Jackson he was a great passer not the shooter or player Steve Nash was but how often did you hear about his defense. Nash has never been a very good defender he just isn't quick enough to stay with guys and now he's older too. However he's held most of the pg's he's played this year to low numbers at least scoring wise.

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