i know its early but this kid has been playing great and seems to have passed d. rose so far. he is just coming into his own and alot of guys on this site gave me negative b4 the season started and i posted something about him being better than rose but so far so good im looking smarter and smarter as the season goes on. hes doing everthing better than rose right now and he team is even winng now which lookss really good. i know people will say its early and rose will get better but the scary thing is westbrook will too
No he hasn't. He's not a natural PG, and he's been super turnover prone. I don't think he's been all that impressive at all. He's actually not progressed much at all since last year. He's a good athlete with potential right now. Oh and he's a good defender.
"im looking smarter and SMARTED as the season goes on", that made me laugh.
rose is averaging 12 pts, 3 rebs, 6 assists, a game 42% fg
westbrook is averaging 18 pts, 5 rebs, 8 assists a game 48% fg
jennings is averaging 18 pts, 4 rebs, 4.4 assists a game 43% fg
not to mention westbrook is bringing elite defense people sorry but he has really passed rose and if he keeps developing they way he has so far he will be a top 3 point guard in 2 years and he is making players like avery bradley look better as pro prospects. even jenning is outplaying rose and hes only a rookie who will get much better by seasons end. people stop going by the name and watch them play its not close RIGHT NOW!
Rose just came off a injury he will be better as the season comes along.
you are just a westbrook hater yeah he does turn the ball over but how can you say hes not a true point when he averages way more assists than rose. he has improved his shot and hes getting even better on defense. iguodala you must havent watched them play at all this year the guys a beast. against a great defensive team in houston he had 33, 5, and 7 you must really love rose not to give this guy any credit
Westbrook has gotten better but he is a walking turnover like the game against the Lakers,he was just throwing dumb and pointless turnovers for no reason thats why they lost, Rose is coming off of injury but always leads is team to a win in the clutch,his jump shot has gotten better and his court vision Rose right now is just gettin warmed up you will see. Besides his stats aren't going to be just over board this year especially how well round they are since Deng has came back and Salmons is at the 2.
none of those players are stealing his assists he is coming off an injury but if he wasnt ready he should not be on the court those are excuses and the reason the thunder lost is cuz that dumb shot durant did at the end of regulation. so why did jennings outplay rose is it because hes better or just a bad game? and deng and salmon what about durant and green taking westbrooks stats those are all excuses for the obvious westbrook has passed rose maybe rose will pass him later but now westbrooks the better player and with the turnovers westbrook averages 5 per game and rose is at 3 but but playing 5 less mins than westbrook
He is simply not better than Rose. Just wait til they more games and he gets up to speed health wise. I don't see how anyone that really watches basketball can say that he's better than Rose. Only thing he's actually better at is defense.
you cant call him a westbrook hater when you clearly are a rose hater
I love Westbrook games always has since UCLA but Rose is the better player obviously...he completes Chi-Town if you watched the game against the Spurs or Cleveland you would see why. We all know quick PGs has always torched Rose but you seen how Rose stepped up at the end to give Chi-Town the win against the Bucks..and I'm a Jennings fan its just the fact that Rose is the truth.
You're not looking smarter... You're looking dumber. Rose will never make any excuses, but it's been widely documented that he's playing with and trying to overcome a seriously sprained ankle. He spent the first week of the season playing himself into game shape. Give the kid mad props... He's hurt and still out there giving it what he can.
some of ya'll are just pure westbrook haters wit the he hasnt gotten better..of course hes not a natural pg because hes still learning the position but he is a pg and very very good one at that and thats why i give him the bigger outlook then rose int he future..rose has been a pg all his life and westbrook hasnt yet westbrook put up similar numbers then rose while being the better defender. just imagin how good hes gonna be when he fully learns what it takes to be a pg because so far he is learning at a very high rate..eventually he will get the turnovers down and get the ast up even higher. no one knows how hurt rose is but if hes out there playing then he will be judged like anyone else who is out there playing
You can judge him how you want, but it's common sense that his numbers aren't where they should be because he's playing on a bad ankle right now. I don't get y'all... He could sit out and cry like a baby, but he's out there playing and trying to help his team... Not worrying about his stats. His team is winning too. That should be praised, not looked down upon. Y'all kill me... Stepping on a player when he's down and saying players have passed him when he's not even at his best.
whos looking down upon it?...im not prasing him because hes not the first to play on a bad ankle and he wont be the last..also not because i see its strong enough to blow pass guys and dunk which he has shown a bunch of times....like jordan and many other players have said before" its extremley rare that youre ever 100percent while playing during the season"...if youre healthy enough to go out there and play and recieve the praise when you do well then you also have to welcome the bad
They are both great players but they are effective in different ways. Rose may not have better stats right now but he makes the players around him better thus the teams success via the playoffs last year. Westbrook is a natural Point Guard many believe him to be a combo guard. Westbrook is definitely better defensively but I do not see Westbrook as the guy leading his team to the playoff, he even has a better team then Rose does. He is a superb scorer but with Green and Durant on his team he should be able to lead his team. Westbrook just needs to mature as a player for another year or so and when he make that adjustment he will definitely be an individual threat and ultimately make his team an even bigger threat. But for now Rose is better.
now iverson was someone i praised for playing hurt ..this guy played with 2 bad ankles and other injuries for years but could still perform at a high level...ow that deserves praise
rose also had the better team thats playing in the weaker we..the bulls other then the year before was already a playoff team
I stand corrected on the Bulls being a playoff team already but don't u think Rose is a helpful asset to this team in the sense of how he creates for others and is a tremendous athlete. Westbrook has just as much potential as him if not more but I think it will take him just a little bit longer for him to become a consistent threat and make his team even better.
yeah he is a big reason they did as well as he did...some people on here have to realize just because someone says rose is better then westbrook that it doesnt mean westbrook is bad and vice versa..it just like the dwill chris paul debate on a lower level..some think rose some westbrook so far theres really no right or wrong answer
Yea they are both interesting players in themselves it will be interesting to see these players develop and how it will convert to their teams success.
Actually you can't go by the numbers on this one because of the different roles they have. Right now Rose can still manage a game better than Westbrook. Westbook is the better talent so you would expect numbers but it will take a while before he is the better point guard. I would take Jennings over Westbrook as a point guard. This is not to dis Westbrook. I just think he has to grow more to become a higher ranked point guard but as a a player he is awesome.
Rose took over a team that has made it pass the 1st round of the playoffs before and just turned them into a future title contender. Thats why Rose is better. He is way more effective than Westbrook.
rose is a better player but westbrook got game its a preference of what you like like a lot of people compare cp3 and dwill everybody has a type a certain style of player or game they like but at the end of the day you can put all the stats you want drose is the better pg
turned it into a future title contender is an opinion and you can say the same thing about okc. the bulls were already on there way to being a very good team. also i dont think rose manages the game better then wesbrook..i think west brook manages the game very well...and just liek yod take jenning sover westbrook i would take jennings over rose
and ive yet to hear anyone say the bulls are a future title team..i heard they are a future good team but not title team
the bulls were better b4 rose got there they beat the heat in the playoffs after they won the title and they were at full strength. the bull just got lucky and got rose because of injuries and the kobe trade rumors i love the bulls and rose isn't making them as good as people give him credit for.
Ppl stopped saying that because they fell off big after they made it to the playoffs...and Okc is one of the future contender but look at the bulls roster,its very young and has a lot of talent at every position,Noah is going to be one of the best defenders in the nba soons he blocks and rebounds like a mad man. We all know about Rose,Salmons is very underrated and a healthy Luol Deng just makes them dangerous,you see Luol puttin up big numbers for them and Rose is runnin they team very well,but oh yeah I am a Westbrook fan he is my favorite player from that draft but he throws to many dumb turnrovers so how could he run a team better??
oh wait i did hear it a couple of times before....but that was before rose ever got there..havnt heard it since though..as far as turnovers roses assist to turnover ratio is only .3 better then westbrooks which at worst evens out since westbrook is averaging 2 more assists a game
on top of that im sure we all know nash and gilbert can run a team and both have and are averaging more turnovers then westbrook
thank you q hodges
They actually aren't averaging more turnovers than Westbrook......Westbrook is the leaague leader in TO'S
I've been avoiding this argument for a while now, but here it comes...
Russell Westbrook is stupid. Yes I've watched the games. He does not make smart plays. Especially in the fourth quarter. Derrick Rose makes his teammates better. That's why he is a better point guard.
Westbrook on the other hand plays better defense (not last night but you know), than Rose. His stats are better, but his team is worse (take that to mean whatever you want it to).
I'll take Rose over Westbrook, but like the CP3 and D-Will (I'll take D-Will) argument there is no right or wrong answer. Only your individual preference.
I agree, theres no right or wrong, just your own opinion