and there lies the problem...if..i can say if the nest had amare and melo they would win 50...but we live in the reality so lets stick to that. when the knicks had money they didnt pick up any build around free agents..and what free agent i gonna wanna play for the knicks with the way they have been playing knowing that there style doesnt win games?...you dont think other nba players are watching how the knicks are doing?..yea someone will sign but if youre dwade or lebron or bosh or amare and you know there are a couple teams who can afford you and you are concerned about winning then why go to the knicks and take a step back knowing they are no where near good enough now or anytime soon to compete for a title?
if the nets "young talent" is soo muchhh better and lightyears ahead of the knicks why are they also losing by double digits and cant even beat a miserable team in minnesota who was missing like half their team? clearly their roster is not as great as people here make it out to be otherwise they would win games. And in the end since both teams are losing i would rather be located in the heart of one of the best cities in the world.
Phoenix was insanely competitve in one of the toughest conferences the nba has ever seen and should have won that year agaisnt the spurs and went to the finals had nash and half the team been suspended. If d antoni is handed the right players his system works, he just currently has a lot of boneheads. Plus he is loved by almost every player, who the hell wants to play for frank if we are bringing coaches and systems into this.
umm because there team is not good right now..duh....young talent plays better when they develop...that why there group of players have a better future then the knicks group of players.....no one said they are great no ..it the future people are talking about with out having to mention if we get this or that free agent...if if if..people need to get off the if someone hit this shot or if thi guy didnt get hurt ..the fact of the matter i that they did
im pretty sure d antoni was next in line for coach of team usa and was an assistant on a gold medal team. what has lawrence frank done? you can't be serious telling me players would rather play for him than mike. looks up the suns of a few years back and tell me you cant win with that style. Had the suns been in the east those years they would made the finals 3-4 years in a row.
i could say if ariza and bynum wasnt hurt the lakers would have won the title but the fact is they were hurt so i accept the lost and dont say "well if this or if that"
you mean IF lopez becomes a dominant center, IF CDR can score in the regular season, IF lee is actually a leader or just the 5th man scoring 8 ppg, IF harris can stay healthy, IF Yi is not the soft 27 year old bust that he might be, IF the nets move to bk...cmon who are you kidding developing any team is all about IFs. You keep contradicting yourself man, there is no IF about the knicks signing someone, there is an IF if that player will fit in and take them to the next level, but thats what makes the nba fun, the IFs.
knicks have the same young ifs, gallo, chandler, hill, TD. When that young talent wins games then you can promise me they will be better than the knicks young players. Your biggest case, lopez, is being outplayed by the guy drafted before him so far in gallo, who is to say that trend wont continue?
case closed nets are banking on the same thing..free agency so &$#%#&@! that knick bashing for trying that and nets praising for THE SAME DAMN PLAN.
If their young players are soo much better it is due to luck. They were dumping contracts like the knicks were to get free agents. Struck gold with harris because cuban is stubborn but the real reason that trade was made was to clear money. Apparently Lee is a stud now but u guys forget he was part of a salary dump as well....umm carter anyone. How about the crazy potential and great Yi, pretty sure he was part of a salary dump involving a player by the name of richard jefferson. Their other three young talents are from the draft and the verdict is still out on them. Not sure if hill douglas gallo is much worse than brook twill cdr.
And when the knicks make a few trades to clear space as well they are suddenly putting all their eggs in one basket for lebron...thats BS
lopez is already a very good center..he doesnt need to become dominate..WHEN he gets better(and hes already shown the improvement from year one)..and harris has already shown that he IS A allstar..you can tell by watching a player if its gonna be a if or when..lopez is a when..chandler for the knicks is a when,gallanari is a when twill is a when cdr when..hill is a if..and you took the meanin gof ifs out of context..if as far as developing is different then if about someone getting ejected because there is no going back in time so you will never know....wit young players theres still a future..you under the if thing now?...basically dont live in the pass with if this would have happened then thi team would have made it or won it
nets dont need to sign a big name free agent for them to get better so no they arent bankin gon a free agent like the knicks are..the knicks NEED a free agent to get better..everything they do is based on getting a free agent..see the difference
u make no sense, how is if a free agent comes and if lee is actually a star when he hasnt shown anything near to that used in a different context.
nets can rebuild by what they have now and there draft picks for next year...knicks cant win with the team they have now..actually they need a free agent then any other team in the nba
who said lee is a star?...anyway how about this...if you are a nets fan youre team stinks..if you are a knicks fan youre team stinks:)..2 teams that stink
whos to say the nets players havent reached their ceiling. Who on that team is guaranteed to get better???
Knicks i feel have more players that might get better than the nets. Lopez is much closer to his potential than gallo since he has a whole season under his belt. Plus the knicks have decent veterans in nate lee harrington etc, while the nets have only harris. I dont see the nets team as constructed if they dont sign anyone eveyr being successful thats a load of baised bs
both teams stink...hows that for a case closed
the both teams stink thing is what i was going for i just feel knicks get &$#%#&@! always while other teams get praised for the same thing. i never said the knicks are better than the nets, just the nets arent better than the knicks. Both teams in the same position, but when it comes to the question of free agency i gotta go with the knicks.
of course a knicks fan will say the knicks..thats how its suppossed to be..im not a fan of either so with my unbiased opinion id have to pick the nets..if they had a different coach that isnt just about run and gun then maybe id pick the knicks because that would make the chances of winning better but now and if im a young player id look at the nets ..see the peices they have in allstar talent pg and center (2 most important positions unless you have superstars) and a young do it all player who will be a lock down defender in twill then i gotta go with the nets...i look at the knicks lik ethis in all honesty...chandler is pretty good gallanari has gotten better..david lee is a good player that could be a nice 3rd fouth option on a good team...duhon is a back up..nate is too selfish and just looks to core even when it doent help the team..harrington is not that bad but by the time the young talent develops he on the decline..curry is over weight..jefferes just doent matter....d'antonis way can work for certain teams with alot of talent...the knicks arent one of them
he is definitely showing that in new jersey. pretty sure ryan anderson is killing it in orlando, maybe its the fact that whoever plays in an unbelievably stacked team like that looks better than they are
i cant take full stock when one player says thing like that about another player either...jordan said kwame was gonna be a beast..joe dumars said darko would be a beast also. and yeah thats a good point players can look good on stacked teams since the other team has to worry about everyone
wow i didnt know the nets had 2 first round picks and a second round pick
all im saying is the two teams are pretty much in the same position.
gallo - lopez personally i think the verdict is still out, i know everyone will hate me for this but i still draft gallo over lopez in the redraft
chandler - lee ill give a slight edge to chandler for now but its close
hill - twill still have to give a slight edge to hill since he was regarded much higher and its only been 3 games
douglas - cdr - slight edge to cdr, i do think douglas will be special, both were drafted late and were steals
darko - yi - advantage yi, but im not a big fan of yi, at least darko can play some defense
combination of nate,lee,harrington - harris - harris is the star of the 4 so advantage nets but the depth is better for the knicks perspective.
nets have 2 draft picks - knicks more attractive in FA
both traded their best players for cap space in hopes of landing a big fish
both 0-3 losing by double digits.
sounds pretty similar to me
The more the Knicks lose, the more Jazz fans get excited because of the lottery chances... Wow! Imagine them drafting Derrick Favors. SCARY!
Sigh! I miss those Ewing era where they would throw down any player that goes on an easy lay-up... Imagine if they were up today, Thaddeus Young, Lou Williams, Sam Dalembert would be getting a beating from Starks, X, Ewing and Oakley... LOL