McGrady vs K.D.
We always have heard this comparison, but here's the funny part, on this site everyone is always buzzing about K.D. now because they see how good a scorer he is, but we all forget that about 6-7 years ago McGrady was even more hyped than K.D., and he deserved to be, He was a full stride ahead of Durant as a scorer(one of the best ive seen, ever), and had excellent vision, just remember....everytime we are amazed by K.D., Mcgrady was doing this as well as anyone ever has.
That said what are your expectations for Durant as a player?
mcgrady has no heart. he just doesnt love the game like he should. he has all the talent in the world but then he got injured and stayed injured. i really dont see how you can say mcgrady was a full stride ahead of KD. KD was in his second year and almost led the league in scoring. he is only going to get better and better. kevin durant is a very special talent for someone of his size so dont be surprised if he does lead the league in scoring. the guy is a absolute STUD
have to agree with Tyrober. My point is that Kevin Durant does play a lot like McGrady...but he also plays a lot like Dirk, and that combination of length, height, and skill can't be matched by many. McGrady was good but KD is going to have a lot better career than T-Mac has.
As Tyrobar said, how can you say McGrady's a full stride better? At their same ages KD averaged damn near 15 points more than McGrady. I don't think their games are similar outside of being tall small forwards. McGrady was a better leaper and better off the bounce, but KD is a straight scorer. If he reminds me of anyone it's a taller George Gervin. He gets buckets as effortlessly as anyone in the league. When he gets a little stronger/fills out more and gains a little maturity we're talking about a multiple times scoring champ.
Kevin Durant has been compared to Tracy McGrady/Dirk Nowitzki... Athletic big man who plays the wing and can score CONSISTENTLY... KD is pretty much a scoring machine but why not compare him to one player that sorta reminds really of who Kevin Durant is? I think George "Ice Man" Gervin could be a good comparison for the Franchise Player of the Thunder^^... Both are unforgiving scorers and both play with finesse.
i think durrant will be one of the if not THE best scorer in the nba in a few years most of us agree he has no problem scoring. he can dominate games with his scoring but has the chance to be an amazing defender. with his agility, and athleticism he can be a terror in the passing lanes and help side defender and he can pretty much keep up with any other small forward, especially once he fills out. i think he can also be the best rebounding small forward in the game too he has crazy long arms, power forward height, and a guards speed and agility. he has a strong shot at being in the top tier of players in the game
McGrady had and still has no heart. He got by off his talent and athleticism. Durant loves the games, plays with passion, and is just a better player. Also, I understand the Gervin comparison because Ice Man was a great scorer and so is Durant, but I think that that comparison is selling Durant short. What else did Ice ever accomplish other than a few scoring titles?? I see Durant challenging LeBron for the best player in the NBA tag as soon as Kobe retires. Durant has that MJ/Kobe fire, and is constantly working on his game, and will be a player that is great for so long because he doesn't just rely on his athleticism or height. He is rediculously skilled and is only 21. Not only do i see many many scoring titles in his furture, but also a few championships
Maybe McGrady had no heart because of his time at Orlando. He was literally on his own there, and would have to score 30-35 points a game for the Magic to have a chance of winning. Maybe he was disheartened and disillusioned because of this.
Ok i dont care who you are, you must still have some heart and put dedication into the game if you lead the league in scoring twice! No one could just get by on that much athleticism and skill with out at least trying and putting the work in
i remeber reading back in tmac's prime that he was never known for being a hard worker. He would show up to practice and just chill in the corner until it started and then look like he was sleep walking. That's not to hate on him because he was a great player and right now a prime TMac was far better then anything we've seen from KD. But if KD has more work ethic, then he should have abetter career. BUt that is no gaurantee. TMac was a far better ball handler then KD might ever be.
I remember seeing an interview with JR Smith during his rookie year where he said "McGrady's the only guy I've seen who can skip shootaround and still get 35.", or something like that. I posted about running into Battier and what he said about McGrady in the McGrady thread. Like everyone else said, he's heartless. He's also selfish as f@#ck. He's a guy who's more worried about individual stats than helping his squad win. Like, he might get 5 asts a night but they're completely out of the flow of the game and they're just to pad his line. Also, as cold as McGrady was we're talking about a guy who scored 30ppg for two seasons on a team with basiclly NO ONE. That's impressive, but I think some of us are remembering him as a bit better than he really is. As soon as he went somewhere with talent his #'s dropped a good bit. Also, his trade started the end of Steve Francis' career, but we'll get into that later, haha. If the team stays intact, the Thunder have a really bright future and once Kobe starts to hit his decline Durant will be the best scorer in the game, period.
But if you are on a sh!t team for years that must drain your love for playing. Eventually it must bring you down. I remember him saying back in the Orlando days that the best big-man on the team was Pat Garrity. Pretty sad state of affairs right there.
His playing on a bad team has nothing to do with his being a heartless dick. The guy speaks in the 3rd person, looks like an assh0le during every interview, is clearly not a good teammate and despite his obvious talent he can't get a team out of the first round. There was a guy who proposed to his fiance at a Rockets game last season, and his fiance just walked off on him and left him there in front of the whole arena. I think it turned out to be staged, but no one knew that. McGrady was laughing at the guy. I don't mean like kinda chuckling, I mean straight up laughing. What kind of dickhead would not focus on the game he's being paid millions to play and instead focus on some poor schmoes misfortune, and get a kick out of it? The guy's an ass.
As much as I love KD, Tracy McGrady will always go down as one of my favorite players of all time. You can say he has no heart, he's a bad teammate, etc. but there is no denying he was one of the most impressive scorers of all time. He really had a complete offensive game, he is a very underated passer and rebounder. His man defense is nothing stellar but he could still contain a guy. And I just don't see how you can say the guy has no heart. He pretty much single handedly led the Magic into the playoffs those years. Everyone can talk smack about how he's never gotten out of the first round, but really has it been all his fault?
I will admit that he doesnt try as hard as he should, but dont tell me u werent laughing when that guy got turned down man becuz i was. And also you cannot say Mcgrady is selfish and he gets his assists from play out of flow, if anything hes one of the best passer play maker from the small forward postion the league has ever seen, he would averaage more assists if he had someone who could finish the open looks they get or be able to take it to the rim hard, he averaed 5 assists for 8 straight years with one year at 6.5, u just dont get that from random plays, for his career he has a higher assist average then kobe and he never had a prime shaq or the great laker teams and he still got it done
Yeah, I was laughing at first but then I felt really bad. I also wasn't inbounding the ball in a game I was making over six-fugures to play. Honestly, I don't care what his stats say in the ast. dept., I watch him play and he is definitely not a great passer, and he's surely not one of the best passers out of the 3 spot ever. That's absurd. Like I said, he gets his numbers out of the flow of the game and clearly has no interest in winning. The guy's a dog. He has Ming down there but he'd rather toss up a contested 3. And yes, not getting out of the first round all those years is his fault, especially after guaranteeing a 'w' when you're one win away from advancing and you pull an 0-fer.
OK whiteflash you hate his guts, we get the picture. Jeez. You dont average 30 points, 7rebs, 5 assists in a season by being a "dog", come on now.
I meant a dog as far as mentality, not ability. Already said the guy has serious talent, he just doesn't care about anything but himself.
I dont' care what any of you say. In T-Mac's prime he was unstoppable. He was the most unstoppable player during those season. Kobe was the closest player to match his scoring ability when he was at the Magics. You have to be kidding yourself if you say KD is going to be like that soon. Best scorer in the game right now is Kobe/Melo. After Kobe is going to be Melo. After Melo maybe KD. For his height, he should be on the block more often then out at the 3pt line. He should be able to put up easy buckets over the smaller 3's on the block.
Uh, what? McGrady had two season where he was given the green light ad nauseum and he averaged 30 a game. Kobe was matching those #'s when he had Shaq down low, and then averaged 5 ppg more when Shaq left. During McGrady's heyday he was still behind Bryant. McGrady could [and still can] play, but he was given a great shot at producing and outside of a few good scoring seasons he couldn't. How can you say we're out of our minds when KD is already at 26 a game IN HIS 2ND YEAR. Like I already said, when Kobe starts winding down Durant will be the best scorer in the league.
having heart or not Kevin durant will never average 32 points a game, he will never be a shooting guard small forward, who has to step up and shut down dirk nowitzki in the playoffs while giving up 4 inches and 30 pounds. and he will never be the all around player mcgrady was. heart or not, durant at his best won't be better than mcgrady at his best. and then think of how sick his stats would have been if he wouldn't have gotten hurt. Ya'll must have forgot how effortless mcgrady's jumper was, how he would sky up so high no one could block his shot, how he SMASHED ON SHAWN Bradley. cmon man.
Ya'll are seriously trying to say that a kid - A KID - who has already averaged 25 a game as a 20 year old doesn't have the potential to be better than a guy who peaked five years ago in his mid twenties, and who's peak only lasted 2 years and didn't include any kind of team success? A young McGrady was fun to watch, and his first year here in Houston he had that game against the spurs which is still one of the most impressive things I've seen on a basketball court, but he was just a good player who could put the ball in the hole, nothing more. The NBA has seen a lot of those come and go and they're generally forgotten except by people who really watched the game.
Yea they have very similar games, but I think Durant has a legit chance to pass McGrady as a scorer. He's already a problem with his scoring numbers, and he's not even close to finishing his physical maturation. Everything that limits him (post scoring, slahing to the rim consistently, defense) all have to do with his lack of strength and undeveloped physical tools. He has crazy length and good athleticism, but as he continues to put on weight he will be among the best scorers to ever touch a basketball. I don't understand how you could think he can't average more than 22 ppg for his career that McGrady does or even average the 32 ppg that's McGrady's highest ppg average for a season.
McGrady had one year at 30ppg a game and that was 02-03 when he hit for 32.1. That same year Kobe put up 30 a game while averaging more boards, more assists and more steals and he had to share the ball with the leagues MVP. Some of ya'll have lost your damn minds with this McGrady thing. McGrady had 5 seasons at 25+ppg. That's a serious feat, but to think that Durant - who coming into his 3rd season and already has one - can't match or surpass that is silly.
at this point mcgrady was better but durant is still young..mcgrady could score just wasnt the shooter durant was but in his prime was considered top 2,3 player int he nba ..durant isnt on that level yet so as of now i agree mcgrady is a full stride ahead of mcgrady the same ways there are pg a full stride ahead of rose..potenial kd could be better but its not a given because mcgrady was sooooooooooo good..wit young players you can only say maybe and potenial because know one knows what the future will be...its a pretty good comparision though. and when some of ya'll ay mcgrady has no heart i always wondered what does that mean?..he did play wit passion but he didnt show it like some players do because his demenor is so calm...so for those who said he had no heart what i youre definition of having heart and having no heart because personally i think anyone who has made it too the nba has to have heart to get there a well as talent
nice post ^^^^^^^^^
no heart? Nah, more like no H.E.L.P.
You don't get that far and that good by just having no heart.