SI BEHIND ENEMY LINES SCOUTING REPORT ON PHILLY
im just posting the thoughts on iggy and thad since the debate has come up several times over past few wks.
SI.com's NBA Enemy Lines Ian Thomsen spoke with 6 scouts for his annual, exclusive, behind-the-scenes look at each team
If LeBron James is a first-tier star and Chris Bosh is in the tier below him, Iguodala is a third-tier star. For them to have a contending team, he would probably need to be their third-best player. Iguodala plays some shooting guard, but he's best as a small forward. I think of him as kind of a poor man's Paul Pierce, with some crucial differences that keep him from reaching Pierce's level. He's very physical and he can finish because he has big shoulders and he's a big, tough kid. But he doesn't have the explosion to beat you off the dribble, and he's not really adept with the ball. He isn't consistent shooting off the dribble, and you don't want to play through him a lot because he doesn't do a lot to make his teammates better. If you double him in the post, he doesn't do a great job of identifying where the help is and where he should deliver the ball. Defensively, he can be good, but as he's been in the league, he has gotten worse. When he first came in, I thought he was going to be an all-around player and defensively a stopper, but now he seems to be focusing on his offense. When he tries or wants to defend the important possessions at the end of the game, he is very good. But he is not consistent in how he plays.
(him being 3rd best option i dont think would be good fit, and he does have a decent eye for cutters / etc. I think hes best suited as 2nd opton behind Thad)..
I'm big on Thaddeus Young. To be a great player, he's going to have to focus on playing the 3. He has the ability to do that. He was a very good draft choice for them. He runs the floor very well, he's great in the open court and he's a better finisher than people give him credit for. Last year was kind of a freebie for him because people didn't prepare for Philly to stop Young as part of what they needed to do, but down the line he was one of its best players. This year there will be an "X" on his back so he might struggle a little bit more. I'll be curious to see how he does. They say he likes to compete and he surely has athletic ability. He doesn't have great range on his shot but it surprised me how much better he got. His rotation is not bad and he has good mechanics. He has very good hands, he can pass-and-cut, pass-and-dive, all the things you need to do in Jordan's offense. Maybe Jordan will play Young, Williams and Dalembert together in a transition-style offense, because they'll all be capable of outrunning their defensive assignments.
(another expert big on thad.... I have to agree, he will become the #1 option for Philly w/in 2 seasons unless someone is traded)
Im speaking as an NBA fan with no bias AT ALL here...they are 2nd and 3rd options respectively. That's both of their upsides. I don't see a team built around Thaddeus Young being a good team. Iguodala has proven he can be built around and still be a playoff team. He has for the past 2 years. A 1st tier player makes his team a contender if they have even an average team around them. 2nd tier players make teams good, but not elite with average players and 3rd tier players put up good stats but don't really make the team get to the playoffs. Iguodala is more than 3rd tier, he's underrating him. You need a good all-around player to be a team's focal point, and Iguodala is that and will always be the focal point if him and Young are always on the same team. Young is scary good as a scorer for someone that relies on pure instincts and athleticism, but everyhting else in his game isn't there yet and I don't think it'll ever get to the level of a 1st option. Iguodala does just about everything better than Young, and I think he'll always be better unless Young just gets miles better in every area of his game. I wouldn't bet on that, because that would take a bunch of miles.
I agree with iggy on this. Andre is a very good second option. He does all the little things. He is a scottie pippen type. I don't see thad ever over taking andre.
i agree with you iggy..... when they said "he doesn't have the explosion to beat you off the dribble" they kinda lost me there. Who where they watching and as far as he defense goes there are scouts that had him rated as the best defensive sf in the league last year so uuummmm yea
I feel like his explosiveness is his greatest attribute. I don't know how they can say that he isn't explosive.
Im Your Father thats my point how can they say he lack's explosiveness once i read that i really couldn't take the article seriously
Iggy's explosiveness should not be questioned... I just love how he just not rely only on his athleticism but tries his hardest to improve all aspect to his game... A Scottie-Pippen type would be a great comparison and he's so good at doing his thing for the City of Brotherly Love...
iggy def the all around better player.. i think thad will be the better scorer, with potential to be better, at least after watching arguably 79 gms last season and the playoffs is what i saw..They say iggys jumper is lookin better and i sure hope so.
The Big O i'm glad you brought up that point.... with the way Speights is developing and the way it seems (atleast last year) that iggy and brand can't really play together that money they used on Brand could of went else where like re-signing miller or saved for a big free agent this up coming off season
But who wants Brand now he pretty much missed the last 2 seasons and with everybody trying to save money who would take that big contract....