Draft Scenario... Who would YOU take with the first pick in this draft?
First, imagine that none of these players have played in the NBA yet and are just finishing their college careers. We know nothing about these players besides what they accomplished in high school and college. Choose which player you'd select if YOU had the first pick in the draft. REMEMBER... This is BEFORE any of these players even stepped foot in the NBA, so the highs and lows of their current NBA careers don't exist yet lol. Okay... Here's the scenario:
In the most hyped and anticipated draft in NBA history, NBA executives and teams are literally drooling. This NBA draft consists of FIVE franchise caliber talents. After a NBA season full of speculation that teams have been tanking their seasons in order to have a shot at a top five pick, the draft is finally here. Let's introduce these five players:
GREG ODEN: 7' 0" 257 lb freshman center from Ohio State University
- One of those dominant centers who come along every ten years or so. Scouts said if eligible, he would've been drafted with the top pick his junior year in high school. Has the size and NBA ready body that few his age possess. A great athlete who runs the floor with ease and has excellent leaping ability. A defensive first center, he is truly dominant on the defensive end. He's a great shot blocker and has a very high defensive IQ for a player his age. Offensively, he lacks post moves and looks uncomfortable facing up, but always gets great position in the post and finishes with authority. Recognizes double teams and is great at passing the ball out of the post. A great character guy who is humble and always hungry to improve. He's a winner who's lost very few games during his entire playing career. NBA comparisons are David Robinson and Bill Russell.
KEVIN DURANT: 6' 10" 215 lb freshman small forward from Texas University
- An explosive scorer. Athletically Durant is in rare company as his wingspan (7' 5"), mobility, quickness, and leaping ability have few peers. He's great in transition and on the fast break where he finishes with flair. He has excellent feel for the game and confidence, which allow him to make the game appear effortless. He has legit NBA 3-point range and runs the floor like a guard. He has soft hands that allow him to catch any ball thrown to him in the post. His back to the basket moves are advanced and he has solid footwork. He needs to gain weight and despite being unselfish, he lacks the passing ability to create for his teammates. He needs to work on his perimeter defense in regard to his anticipation skills and footwork. NBA comparions are Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowitzki and Tracy McGrady.
DERRICK ROSE: 6' 3" 196 lb freshman point guard from Memphis University
- Arguably the best point guard prospect since Jason Kidd. A breath taking athlete with terrific size for the point guard position at 6' 3". His upside is truly special. An absolutely dazzling dunker with blinding speed, who'll likely be the most athletic PG in the league for years to come. A point guard in the truest sense of the word. Knows how to run a team, and raises the level of play of his teammates. An unselfish pass-first point guard with excellent court vision. Has a rare ability to create passing lanes, finding and creating shots for teammates who do not appear to be open. He's excellent off the dribble and almost impossible to contain one on one. Always has a calm demeanor and rises his level of play along with the competition. He's a winner who wants the ball during crunch time and delivers. He needs to work on his jumpshot mechanics. He has little to no 3-point range at this point. NBA comparisons are Dwayne Wade and Jason Kidd.
MICHAEL BEASLEY: 6' 8" 239 lb freshman power forward/small forward from Kansas State University
- A fabulous athlete with an NBA ready body. His quickness, jumping ability and strength combine to make him one of the most difficult match ups. He has range from anywhere on the floor all the way out to NBA three, but is especially effective with his soft touch around the rim, where he uses both hands to finish with a variety of moves. His left handed jump shot is a thing of beauty, with a smooth release, he has good arc and is very balanced getting his legs under him to get great elevation. Most dangerous out of the mid-post where he can square his man up, and attack with a variety of moves; including strong takes to the hoop, a nice midrange pull-up, or simply shooting over the top of helpless defenders. From the triple threat his jabs and shot fakes are extremely efficient because he not only has a quick first step, but also a very long one that allows him to get by people at will. When the defender tries to beat him to the spot, he has a terrific spin move that is virtually unstoppable. Very undersized for the power forward position and doesn't have refined enough perimeter skills to play the small forward on the NBA level. Struggles going to right hand. A below average defender. His mentality is to score no matter what, which sometimes leads to him trying to score while double and triple teamed. NBA comparison is Carmelo Anthony.
BLAKE GRIFFIN: 6' 10" 248 lb sophomore power forward from Oklahoma University
- Freak of nature, off the charts athletic specimen type. The perfect storm of strength, athleticism and work ethic. It's rare to find elite level talent that also possesses the character and drive to outwork everyone. Griffin has immense potential due to his superior athletic ability and his willingness to put the work in to improve. A special talent and a special kid. Never takes a play off. Knows only one speed and gives his all on every possession. A dominant rebounder who will be one of the top rebounders in the league for years to come. An incredibly strong and athletic body. His strength at his age is incredible and he will surely get stronger as his body continues to fill out (between the ages of 20-24). Plays the game with amazing toughness, he's a wrecking ball who loves contact in the paint. Runs the floor well. Excellent speed and agility in the open floor. His explosiveness puts him in rare company. Has the ability to face the basket and use the dribble to get to the rim. Very comfortable handling the ball for a post player who can dribble the ball up the floor, in order to break the press and get through traffic. An excellent passer who has good vision and spots double teams quickly finding the unguarded teammate for openshots. He's not a great shooter and struggles from the free-throw line. He's reckless play could shorten his career. Needs to work on his defense. He should be a better shot blocker. NBA comparisons are Karl Malone, Amare Stoudemire, Carlos Boozer and Antonio McDyess.
Who would YOU pick with the top pick? Give me your thoughts on the draft order and who would be picked after the top pick.
1. Blake Griffen
2. Derrick Rose
3. Greg Oden
4. Kevin Durant
5. Michael Beasley
I would want my team to be hard-working and tenacious. That's why I would want Griffen as my center-piece. Derrick Rose would be my second choice. After that I am kinda meh. Oden because he would be our defensive center-piece. Durant because he can score. Beasley comes in last because of his off-the-court problems.
Derrick Rose, he is the only person on the list that has a chance to revolutionize his position.
Remember... You don't know anything about their NBA careers yet. All you know is what they accomplished in high school and college. We don't know about Beasley's off the court issues or Oden's microfracture surgery yet, so you can't use that against them.
i take Durant Hands down... Scorers like him do not come around that often.
Actually Beasley had a few off-the-court problems before he entered the NBA. Please don't make me look them up...
Anyways I changed it and put Oden ahead of Durant. Because I was really excited about him before the draft that year. So I'm not going to lie and said I would have taken Durant over Oden, even if in hindsight maybe it would have been a smarter choice.
I stand by my Griffen over Rose pick though.
He had a couple of off the court issues concerning his immaturity during high school, but nothing like the off the court issue he had this past summer.
I still was never really that high on him. I've always liked Rose more. Ever since I first heard about him on this website and they compared him to a "more athletic Gary Payton" and said he had a 4.0 GPA in high school. That was before his freshman year in Memphis.
Rose and Durant are probably my two favorite NBA players, however based on the criteria you stated....I, and i bet most NBA scouts would take ODEN 1st in the draft.....people forget how hyped he was coming in to college and his freshman year, just read the NBAdraft scouting report...The only possible choice would be Rose, because the NBA is a young mans game
I seen off back that Durant was going to be something huge in the nba and he will be top 5 in the nba in a couple of years so he is my first draft pick. Rose is second he is also going to be one of the top players in the nba soon he just as the tools and he is so young. Idk its a tie with Beasley and Blake because Beasley is really nasty he can flatout score and will become a decent rebounder something like Carmelo. Oden last he is a good center but he is mainly good because centers in the nba are terrible.
Griffin is the least intriguing prospect on this list hands down, He would go 4th or 5th in this draft, only getting picked above possibly Beasley,They are top 2 hands down, athletic power forwards who can put it on the floor are not hard to come by anymore
My List Is
Durose(come on its a toss up)
Oden is a close second
then you have Beasley or Griff
I would take durant hands down he had a legendary freshman year i know mike beasley put up the better stats but durant was beating teams by his self.
I wish Griffin's arms were a little longer and he could shoot better, BUT other than that... He's a PERFECT power forward who has everything you want in a player. His shooting and offensive skills in the post will improve with time. We all see the potential. He was shooting the fadeway "Tim Duncan" type bank shot during college.
1.Greg Oden- I really thought that even D12 is not that good like Greg.
2.M.Beasley- he was a monster, jsut imagine Carmelo with 3-4 more rebounds= MVP contender
3.K.Durant-very similar talent with Beasley, but I thought his 200pounds hurt him
4.B.Griffin- He is good but IMO other are just little bit better
5.D.Rose- I don;t know why but I really didn't thought that he will be something close liek he is now
Its sill for people to pick Durant...because at the time of the draft everyone was saying Oden over Durant to the fact that it wasn't a serious debate...Same with Beasley over Rose although that was a closer discussion
The fact is that teams looking at these prospects would see Durant as world class as he was and wonder if he was truly franchise changing NBA finals leading material. This has proven to be wrong but at the time, people saw Odens defensive dominance and saw a franchise changer.
My list would be at the time
2. Durant/Rose two close to decide...probably Durant though
Oh Yeah Tezo he is a very good PF, he will be good, but i cant put him above anyone in this pool of players
1. Oden(This guy is a legit center with all the right tools and if for the rest of his career he is not injured people will put him back at the top again)
2. Derick Rose(Point guard that may overtake Chris Paul enough said)
3. Durant(I love Durant as a player but he is a swingman and that position is easier to find but you know he will be a top score and versatile player for years to come)
4. Blake Griffin(Blake is a Beast but the 3 guys ahead of him play in more need positions)
5. Michael Beastle(he would have lost point for me when it turned out he was not 6'10" or close to it in shoes)
1. Oden - Was considered a once in every generation type of center that you just don't pass up on. He was being compared to David Robinson and Bill Russell.
2. Rose - Like Iggy said above, he has as a chance to revolutionize the point guard position, similar to how Tim Ducan has revolutionized the power forward position.
3. Durant - A special scorer, but he doesn't create for his teammates and like you said... His position is easier to find.
4. Griffin - He has the phsycial tools, work ethic and mentality to be an elite power forward for a long time, but I can't put him any higher on this list.
5. Beasley - A versatile scorer, but lacks the size to play the power forward and doesn't have enough perimeter skills to be a great small forward in the NBA.
Having watched them play in the nba, my order would be:
If I'm just going byb where I would rank them coming out of college, my order would have been:
I take durant #1 he is 6'10 and can play the two easy and he dominated even with his lack of muscle he even averaged more rebounds than Oden in college. You could see watching him in college he be a top scorer in the league for a long time also is Very humble.
2. Rose- great leader and proven winner
3. B. Griffin- A very explosive player thats works his tail off to be great 20/10 easy if given starter mins
4. Oden- Great defender with great size not very good offensively had a lot of hype in high school didnt dominate how many thought. Also a winner
5. Beasly- A very dominate player but you have to wonder can he make other players better. Put up outstanding numbers but his team didnt go that far
Honestly, anyone who didnt say Oden is full of shiit..sorry to put it like that
He said all you know of is HS and College, Greg Oden was suppose to be the next great big man, a shot-blocking, rebound-grabbing, dunk-dunking, hell of a Center, he was getting comparisons to David Robinson and Bill Russell, Durants still a close second, but you never pass up on a guy like Oden...or what he was suppose to be, the most hyped up college/HS center ever
Somebody said great scorers like Durant dont come often, that may be true, but good scorers come around like every 3-5 years
Bigs get the nod most of the time but when was the last time a talent like Durant out of college was this good.
Just because Oden was compared to Robinson and Russel doesn't mean he will be.
Remember Centers drafted with the top pick Olowokandi, Kwame Brown, Bogut didn't turn out to be great or even all stars.
How would u rank Rose higher than Durant based on his NBA performance so far, did I miss something.
Revolutionize the PG position he's 6'3 not a 6'8 Magic Johnson.
If i had to start a franchise right now and had to pick between Durant and ROse, I would go with Rose. Durant can be the best scorer in the game but I think Rose will challenge for best pg in the league within a few years. I think he can do a little more to take over games and carry a franchise then Durant will be able to do.
Thank you, you have to take into consideration who is more likely to win games and who has a higher upside. Rose has the upside advantage (albeit slightly) and he has already proven to be a much better winner than Durant has ever been. So to answer the question of whoever asked "What has Rose done in the NBA that Durant hasn't"? The answer would be won more, and led his team to the playoffs.
Much easier to make the playoffs in the East then the West.
Also how'd he go against Rondo in the playoffs, he had 6.5 asts a game and 5 turnovers how is he exactly making guys better. Gordon made that a series against with his 3's.
Durant hasn't had much help till now
beasleys role isnt to make other players better as a sf/pf...yyou can say the same thing about durant as far as make others better..and mot people re putting beasley last because of his nba season in which he wasnt given the chance like rose and play even though both players defense was bad. i think rose will be a very very good play and all star but revolutionize the position?..i just dont see it. if he averages a triple double like oscar did as a pg then ill agree or grow and be as tall as magic..other then that i dont see it happening
the nba is a young man game???..lol now that funny..i dont think any rookie or second year player was that close to even making third team all nba
Lebron & Wade made it to 2nd Team in their 2nd year these guys aren't as good, Duncan too
Duncan was a rookie all-star. Don't remember if he made all-nba.
proves my point..being a young mas game would mean all or the majority of the first second or third team would be loaded with the youngins
4. oden (i was skeptical of him due to being injury prone and not gaudy ncaa stats)
5. beasley (no position, no defense)
Here's my list:
1. Greg Oden- he is said to be "once-in-a-decade Center" and a "certified franchise changer". How could anyone pass up a dominant big man caliber like Oden? Plus given the David Robinson and Bill Russell comparison makes it more intriguing for us because it feels like he is destined to hold an NBA title.
2. Derrick Rose- like iggy said, he could be able to revolutionize the PG position... What makes it more intriguing is the fact that he has been compared to a stronger Gary Payton in his college days... His uncanny speed, handles, the ability to absorb contact like sponge and the ability to make plays for his teammates make him a wonderful prospect for any team... Like Calipari said, Derrick Rose is capable of scoring 30 but instead he settles for a 14 ppg avg since it helped them win more with a team-oriented style... True enough.
3. Kevin Durant- such an unforgiving scorer and a guy that just heats up consistently... You rarely get a 6'9 or 6'10 guy who can score in unlimited range... But he's not worth the top pick because normally we would find a solid player that can fill up Durant's position nicely... plus his strength and lack of build could be another miss for him to be put at #1... Still, there's no denying that Durant is smooth...
4. Michael Beasley- an extreme player and has the ability to score anywhere... The only thing that lingers his stock is his size... Beasley was said to be 6'10 bt then reports came and reported him 6'8 or even shorter than that probably 6'7... which hurt his stock... He may struggle finding his shot if he plays the PF and he doesn't have the speed and quickness to dominate the SF like LeBron... Still, he could end up having an All-Star career...
5. Blake Griffin- he's a legit 6'10 so there's no denying Big Blake's position... But the fact that he wants to improve may allow scouts to get intrigued with him a whole lot more... He's got that strength and leaping ability, not to mention his fundamental skills which is quite unbelievable but put him on the prospect of the 2008 Draft, he won't even make it in the top 5...
1. Michael Beasley I still would of chose him 1st based off of his HS/College career.
2. Kevin Durant
toss up between Blake Griffin and Greg Oden for me
Why wasnt Thabeet and option?? You have the number 1 and 2 picks from both drafts before this one. Why not have 1 and 2 in this one?
I choose winners, and the two freshman that lead their teams the the Championship game have to be at the top of the list. Durant's team underachieved for how good he was in college, and Beasley's team showed no camaraderie. Blake is intriguing because of his physical dominance.
1) Oden, hands down. Best legit center prospect since Shaq. There arent too many drafts where he wouldnt have been selected 1st overall. Considering the dearth of centers, you have to pick the game changer at the rarest position to find one.
2) Rose, top point guard prospect in the last decade.
3) Durant, awesome scorer, but I felt his rebounding numbers wouldnt translate to the NBA game. He was Carmelo without the wins.
4) Beasley, similar to Durant, I doubted his post ability playing against the best athletes in the world, but hard to find such a complete game.
5) Griffin, A prototypical power forward, the only question is can he get to the point where he's great?