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A lot of good teams are deep but Portland may have held on to their promising young talent too long.

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A lot of good teams are deep but Portland may have held on to their promising young talent too long.

The should have moved Outlaw for power forward depth and not have signed Andre Miller. They could have signed some vet for cheap and since Roy is kind of their point guard anyway, they could have let Bayless play more minutes. Right now they may be a position where they may have so move Miller as soon as they can because of chemsitry issues. Portland should have learned from Boston. Boston traded some young players and talent for veterans and now if you look at them now they are restocking with young vets to fill in spots. They are signing guys that are experienced but not to old. Knicks could used both Outlaw and Miller so maybe they can work out something in the future. This having a lot of young depth is going to happen to a lot of teams and you get all this talent coming in and playing well enough to stick around. That is forcing some older guys to retire earlier than they want to. They better head overseas.


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I agree

Except for Outlaw don't need him on the Knicks they have Chandler, Galinari, Harrington, Hughes, Nate etc don't need another wing man. Andre Miller won't work he's not a quick pg and doesn't have the range either plus that contract only way Knicks take him on is if Blazers take back Jeffries or Curry which isn't likely.

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Boston

I think with Boston, their talent and amount of talent wasn't quite the same, but I agree that it comes a point when you have to basically cash in your chips. I know the Bulls went through that at least twice in recent years and were afraid to get rid of anyone because of the possibility of a guy breaking out. It didn't work out for them that well until Derrick Rose landed in their lap and they get to start the process all over again. The thing about Portland is that they have a lot of nice talent and all of their guys are making reasonably pay, so they won't have a problem trading anyone, it just becomes a matter of who to trade and who to keep. Unfortunately, I could easily see anyone that they trade end up doing a lot once traded because it would open up more playing time. The first guys I think of are Outlaw and Fernandez.

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portland wanted to see what

portland wanted to see what they had with all their young guys. making a deal just for the sake of making a deal is pointless. they can move them now but it would have been a mistake to do it last season

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Problem

The problem with any young team like Portland is that a lot of guys start needing to get their next contracts, but the thing is that it tends to be back to back to back and that's why you have to make a trade. You can't pay everybody and you can't keep everyone happy, especially when you have guys that know they are good or capable of starting on a bunch of other teams.

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I think signing Brandon Bass

I think signing Brandon Bass instead of Andre Miller would've been a better move. They could've packaged some of that young talent for an upgrade at PG over Steve Blake. On a side note, I really want to see Martell Webster play. If he doesn't start/play serious minutes this year, then he needs to be moved.

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that was their problem

That was their problem anyway PG they had blake at PG who is a career backup he is a good backup but not a starter I think that miller will help this team more than people realize.

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Yea They Messed up Gettin

Yea They Messed up Gettin All These Career Backup PG's They haven't Had A Legit PG In Years.

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miller is pissed at our

miller is pissed at our local media they are all jokers its actually rediculous. anyone ever heard of jason quick? hes the clown that wrote that miller was the only one to fail conditioning when really 4 other players did. he also wrote how miller is anti social and turning into a cancer on our team... and the season hasnt even started yet! now half of portland is against miller and think hes an &$#%#&@! for wanting his privacy and the other half see through quicks bs and know that hes just a desperate journalist that will twist as much drama into any half truth just to get a story. its pathetic. the blake supporters are starting to piss me off too i agree that blake is a great BACK UP pg but its a joke to say he should be starting over miller. the only thing they have agaisnt miller is that blake is a better outside shooter and then they use all the crap that quick writes about about miller not being a team player and them not wanting a guy like that on our squad. laaame

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Miller

My biggest thing with the whole Miller situation is what did management say or promise to him? If they told him it would be an open competition then fine, but I have a feeling Miller had plans to start on a contending team. I'm not too worried about his workouts either. The guy has hardly missed any games in his career, plus he's a bigger point guard and he's never been the most athletic. A guy his age will look a little worse when he's running up and down the court against guys 10 years younger. I'm not a Blake supporter and I think he is best as a backup, but the way that Portland is built, I think Miller may be the better guy coming off the bench with Fernandez. Both Roy and Miller need the ball to be effective, so that's how you maximize what those two guys can do on the floor. When guys like Fernandez, Outlaw and Oden are coming off the bench with Miller, he is going to make all of those guys look much better and in the end should actually help to speed up the development of Oden.

I agree with you that Bass probably would have been the better pickup though. My biggest problem with that team may be that for as big as Aldridge is, that he cannot play center. I think with the type of team that they have they should have been able to play a 3 big man rotation much like the Lakers with Oden, Aldridge and another player that could rebound and defend at the 4 spot. Meaning no Pryzbilla (though I like him) since neither him or Oden would see time at the 4, but that's not possible to do this because of how soft Aldridge is.

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Age Isn't Portland's Problem

I don't think age is necessarily a factor in Portland's problems. Kevin Pritchard has a great eye for talent, but his problem is one most NBA teams don't have, he's stockpiled far too much stellar talent. Some guys, such as Rudy Fernandez, just don't have enough playing time.

The best example of too much talent is the PG position where you have Steve Blake, Andre Miller, and the young guy, Bayless. How in the world is McMillan going to find enough playing time for all of them? The answer is simple, he can't and that will cause discontent. I'm going to address the Steve Blake vs Andre Miller issue in another post.

Team Chemistry in Pro basketball is a delicate balance between having the right number of stars along with a good mix of guys who are role players. What makes role players so valuable is the fact that they don't require lots of playing time and they don't need the ball. For example, some good bench players come in to add defense and rebounding which enhances team chemistry and performance.

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Steve Blake vs Andre Miller in Portland?

I think if you asked most coaches who is the better point guard, Steve Blake or Andre Miller, almost everyone would say Miller.

However, if you ask most coaches who's the better point guard for PORTLAND, I think the answer would be Steve Blake.

Why?

1. Steve Blake is a pass first point guard who sets up his teammates while Andre Miller is more of a scoring PG.

2. Steve Blake is a far better outside shooter and Portland needs that to keep the lane open for Greg Oden and L. Aldridge.

3. Steve Blake doesn't have the ego of a star player who has to be the man. He will be happy getting a fair amount of minutes on a regular basis.

This is not a knock on Andre Miller whom I always felt was one of the best and most underrated point guards in the league. I think Portland was a poor choice for him and it was a bad decision on the part of Pritchard, their GM. Throw in the fact that they also have a young guard in Bayless, who also needs playing time to develop, and you have a potential budding cancer on your team.

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he is a pass first pg

Andre miller is a pass first point guard have you seen him play he even led the league in assists when he was in cleveland on a real bad team blake does have a better jump shot than hime but miller knows how to run an NBA team I think he did a pretty good job in philly last year.

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i think portland is doing a

i think portland is doing a great job and hat miller was a good signing..without him they only have one pg because bayless isnt a pg he's just in a point guards body..he hasnt shown in summer leauge (2summers) preseason or regular season that he can be a starting pg. im not sure how many cheap good vets there were out there and the ones who were good that were out there wanted to sign with a team closer to championship caliber. with the players portland has they can do many things..they can either trade for a piece they need or keep and develop. every coach in the nba would love to have the problem of having too many players. it beats having too few

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Quincey, Good Point but

Quincey, having too many good players definitely beats having too few. We can agree on that, however, it should bring up a caution flag. If you have too many good players, and if McMillan can't find adequate playing time for them, discontent will build up, which could turn into a cancer that destroys team chemistry.

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as soon as players start

as soon as players start complaining then trade them..i think players that play alot or are big parts of the team, and they complain, hurts a team chemistry..like if roy or aldrige etc. if a player already doesnt contribute awhole lot and starts complaining(bayless) i dont think chemistry will be affected. and so far there hasnt been any big rumblings. untill that happens there isnt a problem.. we can say if or i think but untill or if it even happens then it all good

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I think the NBA as a whole

I think the NBA as a whole has gotten deeper so Portland could have traded and received some vets and future draft picks. Right now they are weak at power forward and there are tons of vets on team where there are 4 solid and maybe better power forward/ center. Juwon Howard is solid but come on there are guys young and just as effective if not better that are sitting on other team's benches. It is easy to stockpile talent but harder to turn that talent into a team. Portland needs to make moves to turn their piece unto a team. Also the Miller signing is only bad because Roy need the ball to be effective so adding Miller immediate causes some issues. They could have also gotten Sessions who can play similiar but is a slightly better shooter and defender for cheaper. Session can also play both guard spots. Portland signed Miller to look like they can make a big signing. It was not the smartest move to make given the circumstance. They could have save that money when more people were available.

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i dont think roy would be

i dont think roy would be any less effitive because blake had his hands on the ball alot and roy is good enough to be just as effective without handling the ball all the time. and personally i dont hold sessions as high as some others so i dont think he would have been nearly as good as a pick up for portaland as miller was. if youre team is not hurting with stockpiling talent then there is no problem..same as if it aint broke dont fix it

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