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Monta Ellis unwilling to share backcourt with Stephen Curry

When asked if he could see himself sharing a backourt with S. Curry

Monta:“I can’t.”

Reporter: Why not?

Monta: “‘Cause I can’t.”

Reporter: But why not? Too small?

Monta: “I just can’t. I can’t. Can’t win that way.”

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/09/28/jax-still-wants-out-monta-dro...

Looks like the GSW season is over already.....Thoughts?


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monta ellis needs to grow

monta ellis needs to grow up. he is paid a ridiculous amount of money to sit around and whine so much. and he better get over too cuz it wont be but a few more years and steph curry is the starting PG for that team

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I doubt his concerns have

I doubt his concerns have less to do with winning and more to do with him sharing the ball. He comes across as a selfish spoiled little kid.

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Yeah I admit I thought a few

Yeah I admit I thought a few months ago that Golden State was going to make the playoffs but I have officialy changed my mind for good reason.  #1 Ellis is always complaining.  If he can't run the show by himself & be the main ball handler then he is going to be upset. #2 Stephen Jackson wanting to be traded. Is he really going to give 100% this season? I doubt it. #3 It looks as  though McGrady is pretty healthy. Plus the Rockets got McCants.  Yep, I'm taking Houston as my new 8th seed.

 Warriors need to trade Ellis & Jackson. It is time to move on.  Curry, Morrow, Randolph, Wright, Biedrins are the future.  

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I dont blame him. You cant

I dont blame him.

You cant win with 2 guys who are not defensive minded. Ellis is this team's PG. I say move Jackson add a cheap guard ( Gerald Green) and run this team

people forget- Monta Ellis missed 30 games last year

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Don't assume people forgot.

Don't assume people forgot. You seem to forget that his injury was a small part of his time out and that him being a selfish prick and disobeying simple guidelines were the real reason.

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Does this mean he will be

Does this mean Stephen/Monta will be included in a trade with Stepehn Jackson?? Maybe they can borrow Amare for a year.

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I agree with Ellis. He has

I agree with Ellis. He has said since day one of summer that he wanted to play pg and the team would not succeed with him at the 2. It would be too much of a defensive liability in my opinion. But ultimately he needs to do whatever is asked of him. I don't think it will be a real issue anyways because I don't see Curry starting. Ellis should play pg, with jackson, maggette, Morrow, and Azubuike sharing minutes at the 2-3 spots. Curry will get some minutes off the bench, but not as much as some people on here predict I think.

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llperez is

llperez is right the team would not succeed with him at the 2.
"It would be too much of a defensive liability in my opinion"

Everyone knows GSW is the jerks
they wanted to groom Curry to be Nash and trade Ellis for Stoudemire on draft day!!!They should have got a defensive combo forward like James Johnson/Dajuan Summers (both who idolize and emulate Carmelo scoring wise)
then they would have this lineup:

6'3 Monta Ellis (plays the 2 guards the 1)
6'8 Captain Jack 20 ppg 3 pt gunner
6'8 James Johnson/Dajuan Summers
7'0 Anthony Randolph
7'0 Andris Biedrins
You cannot tell me that is not a bonafide run and gun playoff team (with size)

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I was thinking the same

I was thinking the same thing...his injury was because he was doing what he signed a contract not to do. I think Ellis is immature, and I think he'll be moved. Maybe with Jackson, maybe not. But it had nothing to do with winning games, he just wants to take the majority of the perimeter guys' shots.

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what gives

him the right to say that thou? players get drafted every year to play with other players, whose monta ellis?what has he done in the league.. if he was a good teammate he would welcome curry with open arms.. ellis is without a doubt a very good talent but why can he say he doesnt wanna play with him, hes just showing everybody that hes selfish and hard to work with..he should at least prove something to the league (besides he can get hurt) before he makes outlandish comments like this

if this is true i have a different opinion of monta ellis now

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Ellis is trying to get

Ellis is trying to get traded. So he is being an A- hole. Also I dont think he wants to guard 2 guards full time. With Curry playing either spot, Ellis will have to guard most two guards. With Baron Davis, Ellis did not have to do this all the time. Also Ellis could be spoiled and now that he has gotten money but screwed over, he is jealous that Curry is Nelson's guy.

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Uhh ok. Is Monta jealous of

Uhh ok. Is Monta jealous of Curry or something?

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man this team has loads of

man this team has loads of talent but their not tough enough they could be a nice fast break team they have a lot of speed and versatility.

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curry

should of been a knick i would of had a curry 4 rookie of the shirts on sale
but if i was a player
playin 4 a washed up coach id wont to leave 2 don nelson is crazy !!! derozen would of been a better pick for them 2 pg
as startin back court is crazy unless on is really big like kidd or gilbert or even westbrook

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Monta Ellis is not going to

Monta Ellis is not going to stay at Oakland. Whenever they move Ellis, Maggette, and Jackson, it will be a rebuilding mode for the Warroirs.

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its real simple

ellis is selfish. he didnt want them to draft a pg. he doesnt want share the backcourt with curry. cause he know curry is the better shooter. i like ellis but if i was the warriors i just sit down and talk to him and say hey if you dont change your attitude i'll trade you.

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Motna Ellis Quotes

It’s different when you’re trying to compare me and Stephen (backcourt), when you’re trying to go back to when me and BD were playing, it’s a different situation.

You’ve got a nine-year veteran who’s been in the game, who understands the game, knows how to play the game, and he’s a big body…

You can’t put two small guys out there and try to play the 1 and the 2 when you’ve got big 2 guards in the league. You just can’t do it.

OK, yes, we’re going to move up and down fast, but eventually the game is going to slow down.

You can’t do it.

—Monta Ellis TRANSCRIPT/
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If Stephen Curry was drafted to the Orlando Magic don't you think Jameer Nelson would be a little upset?

Bottom line Ellis is for once being logical and not selfish he just wants to win.

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I see we have a lot of

I see we have a lot of hypocritical people on here... I didn't hear anybody saying Westbrook was selfish or complaining when he didn't want the Thunder to draft Rubio and that he wanted to be the team's point guard. When news broke that the Thunder were interested in Rubio, he appeared on the Jim Rome show and said the team should draft Harden.

I can understand where Ellis is coming from. The team committed to him, signed him to a huge contract and declared him their point guard of the future. They then turn around and draft another player who basically plays the same position. I'd be a little upset too.

Here's what Ellis needs to realize though... He's a professional. You can't go complaining through the media. He also needs to understand that he messed up big time with the whole moped incident. He needs to regain the organization's faith and trust. His pride has taken a hit, but he just needs to accept the competition and play ball.

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Tezo83

Muy bueno comments
but the warriors tried to do him wrong by trading him and Biedrins
for Stoudemire and now the warriors won't admit that they wanted to get rid of him
and blow up the team and rebuild around Curry and Stoudemire
That's why S Jax wants the heck out of there
There is no way they are competing in the west this year with so many if ands or maybes
surrounding the team personell and its chemistry

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Love his game but!

Love Montes game he is a really underrated shooting guard but he is selfish for this Curry and him would've ended up one of the deadliest back courts in the game especially with Currys IQ come on but Monte wants to be PG so badly now I see why Baron left Warriors are my favorite team trade MONTE!! I hate to say but trade him attitude stinks.

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6'8 250?? Did Joe Johson

6'8 250?? Did Joe Johson turn into Lebron James??

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curry cant guard me!

curry cant guard me!

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Lebron

Lebron is 260 lbs.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/LeBron-James-2967/
he was 245 lbs when he was 18. He's 260 now.
I have no idea how u got 3 points for comparing Joe Johnson to Lebron James.
But I think I know = U Stephen Curry lovers are delusional. straight up

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speaking of joe johnson

not saying it's going to happen anytime soon, but to bring out the best in Monta, i think he needs to play with a playmaker who is the size of an NBA shooting guard, such as Johnson and BRoy. Monta is not a playmaker and thrives best when playing off the ball. I say pair him with a playmaker who is the size of a shooting guard b/c on defense Monta would guard the point and the other guard would guard the shooting guards.

that's why I think Monta play really well with Baron Davis, b/c even though Davis was only 6'4", he was strong enough to be the one guarding Kobe, DWade, etc. And on the offensive side, Baron did most of the playmaking and Ellis played off of him and occasionally brought the ball up in isolation situations. He was able to focus on his strength of attacking the basket and just being a scorer for them. I think that really brought out the best in him.

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Ellis is not really a point

Ellis is not really a point guard and I thought Westbrook was a lil selfish but it did make sense that they go with Harden so I did not knock the move. Ellis is not really a point guard so putting him at the point kind of hurts.

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Ellis

Curry is going to thrive in Golden State because of the fast break system yes he shot a low percentage in summer league but people forgot Derrick Rose did squat in summer league himself. Ellis doesn't play defense him self so what is he complaining about? He just wants to run point thats all it is hes been saying he doesn't want Golden State to draft a pg since the summer thats why he is mad he just wants to be a dominant ball handler.

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He's Just Mad Because..

He's just mad because he wants to start at the point guard. He knows that if him and Curry start in the backcourt, he'll be the one playing off the ball. Ellis is not even a point guard anyways so what's his problem.

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Shut Up

The guys that complain need to just shut up and play basketball. You get paid millions of dollars to play a game that most of us love. Don't worry about who's getting drafted, just make sure you are playing as hard as you can and working on improving. There is nothing wrong with wanting to do what it takes to win, but he wasn't too concerned with that last year when he got hurt. There is no sense in essentially calling out a teammate, when the guy has done absolutely nothing wrong. Good teammates don't do that, especially to rookies. Older players are suppose to help the young guys out so that they improve and are able to be a big part of the team. Guys like Ellis never win championships because there is way too much Ego and a me me me attitude.

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So let me get this straight.

Who wants the next man to come take his spot! Just because Monta make millions does not mean hes not like everyone else, would anyone in this forum not respond the same way, if someone else is being groomed for your job? He has a right to be &$#%#&@! off, say what you want about Monta, hes a proven player in the NBA. Is he immature? Could he have handle this situation better? The answer to both question is yes, but examine what he said.

In all reality Monta is right, GS did not need Curry well not a small PG, picking him was a luxury not a necessity. We all know what GS is good at, GS gets into problems when they can't fast break. For a team with so much fire power it always fascinates me the problems GS have in the half court. GS needed a big who could not only run but if called upon provide scoring in the post, that way the player could score or kick out to he open shooter, or a big guard. If that big was not available in this draft they should have just moved up and drafted Evans. Evans is that kind of player who fits into the GS system, we know what skills Evans brings to the table.

By the way, I'm tired of GS always in a "rebuilding" process. I understand last year BD broke out and Monta did what he did. But what is Don Nelson doing???? Why is no one calling for his job? GS is always labeled as an up and coming team with potential and its the same thing every year. We knew GS had a problem in the half court since Nelson took over, why is it taking so long to fix? His son is the GM after all!

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I do think that GS needed

I do think that GS needed Jordan Hill much more than Curry, but they didnt pick him so no use in crying over spoiled milk. I dont think Curry is being groomed to take Ellis' spot, because I think Curry is being groomed to play PG. Ellis was a 2 guard and will always be in my eyes unless he touches up his playmaking skills for others. But I agree with Curry being a bad pick, but I also say Ellis should stop complaning and get over it....

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They need to trade these

They need to trade these guys, Jackson and Ellis are not what the team needs right now they need to go in another direction. I say trade them together or apart but get rid of them for something because their contracts suck, and nobody going to give you anything good for long term players with attitude problems.

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Tezo83

I agree with Tezo 100%. I can understand people will right off rather quickly anything Ellis has to say about the organization with his moped fiasco right after signing a multi-year, 8 figure deal. But in this particular case, I commend Ellis' honestly. Despite being very blunt about it, he's speaking his genuine feelings that a Curry/Ellis pairing will not work (It does remind me of the Stephon Marbury/Steve Francis pairing). While rational thinking will say Curry should just be a bench player with the best veterans starting for the time being, I don't think that would happen because of the Curry's 7th overall draft selection and being deemed a "ready now" player. The Golden State organization might feel obligated to play him, as the franchise is spiraling down the wrong direction again. But yes, Ellis should be a professional and play for the organization that paid him. Gain their full respect, and they'll build the team in your favor.

But for argument's sake in the scenario both Ellis and Stephen Jackson cannot function with this team any longer, here's a trade idea that could work:

Jackson, Ellis, and Ronny Turiaf to Dallas for Josh Howard, JJ Barea, and Erick Dampier. Though Golden State appears to be getting the less talented end of the deal, Howard and Barea have team options on the final year of their contracts, with Dampier's being a nice expiring trading chip for the '10-'11 season. Worse comes to worse, they could begin to revamp in the off-season with Curry, Randolph and Biedrins being the primary focus of the team.

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i dont think that trade

i dont think that trade would work finacially..plus gs giving all that up and getting back howard who is a 3, arent they grooming randolph for the future three?..if not then that trade could work

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How do you know what Lebron

How do you know what Lebron weighs?? He wont tell anyone but you have the insight and know? He said Joe Johnson was 6'8 250 and he isnt. He is like 6'6 and idk what he weight. All I was saying is that he isnt that big. I never compared him to Lebron.

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How do you know what Lebron weighs??

He wont tell anyone but you have the insight and know?
Really?:

lebron james interview with magic johnson
Fast forward to about 2:20 mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4iEfoBFO4w
250+ and Magic says he's "laying the wood on it"

And for future reference "DeadlySinner":
I have insight because I study basketball;
u could say it's my life ;)

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Joe Johnson is 6'7

Joe Johnson is 6'7 240...maybe 245 at the absolute most. Lebron James is 6'8'' 265 or 270 at the most.

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I'll conceed

245 lbs (broadcasters said 250 in Cavs vs Hawks)
but there is no way that Joe Johnson is 6'6 >:|
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Joe-Johnson-3013/
Height w/o Shoes: 6' 6.75"
Height w/shoes: 6' 8.25"

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something ironic

in today's preseason game b/w the warriors and the clippers, Ellis had a +/- of -5 today, while Curry had a +12 in the same game.

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He said 250 plus. That means

He said 250 plus. That means he could be 270, 280, 290. I know those arent reasonable but he left the door open. He could be, IMO, as big as 265 because he is a horse. He is alot bigger than when he joined the league, at 245. I got ya tho man. I see what you are sayin.

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lol..250 plus doesnt mean

lol..250 plus doesnt mean 260,70,80...it means in the 250 range..come on now gotta use common sense on that one

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6'9 260

6'9 260 ;)
Forward to 1:00 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh6vfS1L0e4
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6'9 260

6'9 260 ;)
Forward to 1:00 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh6vfS1L0e4
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