Dwyane Wade???

THANK YOU! This is what've i've been trying to say since forever....imo, Wade is the best player playing basketball today

I would add to what you said...but you pretty much covered it all...

The only thing i think that holds him back is his teams record, but of the 3, he has the worst supporting cast...

Wade is the best slasher in the game
Kobe is the best shooter though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2e68J2GZ-g
Dr. J said all good dunkers have good hands on Red on Roundball
Kobe has to cup the ball so its harder

Agree. And whoever said he was limited needs to shut up.

Agreed that Wade is the best player in the NBA. The guy is nearly unstoppable especially when going to the hole. I am kind of surprised that no one considers him an heir to Jordan, despite the fact that anyone that has watched him and Jordan play should have noticed Wade's game is the most similar to that of MJ of anyone up until now. Not only is he great, but no one ever shuts him down and when it's crunch time you always believe the guy is going to make the big play and he usually does. He does some ridiculous things and he never had great players surrounding him. The Miami team was a team that he carried to the championship. Put him on the Lakers team that recently lost to the Celtics instead of Kobe and I guarantee you that the Lakers win it all.

Does Dwyane Wade deserve mention for being the best player in the NBA? To me, he does. Like legitimate mention. He is a better defender,passer, athlete and finisher than Kobe to me, and he is a better defender and shooter/scorer than Lebron. He also has a flair for super duper plays and the ability to change a game in a matter of a few minutes. Not that Kobe and Lebron dont, but Wade is a gamer with unbelieveable basketball skills. He is the toughest, most fearless player in basketball and it shows. He is every bit the work-a-holic Kobe Bryant is, as shown by his VASTLY improved ability to handle a PG role, defend, and (definitely most noticeably) perimeter shooting ability. He no longer is limited to playing within 20 feet like he used to be. I think Wade is the best in basketball in alot of games he plays. Sure Lebron is more dominate, and Kobe is more naturally skilled, but Wade has the best all-around game in the NBA to me. Give him a better team (which he'll get sooner rather than later) and you'll hear alot of Dwyane Wade being the best player mention?

First off, he absolutely deserves mention he is in the top 3 for sure, as of now. I agree he is a better athlete then Kobe now, but more than a young Kobe? No. And I also don't think he is a better scorer than LeBron, and there are no facts to back that up either. as for flair for super plays and ability to change a game in a few minutes, yeah he can, but thats what a star is, only the select few true stars can do that. Sure he needs a better team, but don't half the other stars in the game? As for Wade being the BEST? hmmm. i wouldnt disagree with someone saying that, but i think LeBron is strides ahead of everyone else.

Does Dwyane Wade deserve mention for being the best player in the NBA? To me, he does. Like legitimate mention. He is a better defender,passer, athlete and finisher than Kobe to me, and he is a better defender and shooter/scorer than Lebron. He also has a flair for super duper plays and the ability to change a game in a matter of a few minutes. Not that Kobe and Lebron dont, but Wade is a gamer with unbelieveable basketball skills. He is the toughest, most fearless player in basketball and it shows. He is every bit the work-a-holic Kobe Bryant is, as shown by his VASTLY improved ability to handle a PG role, defend, and (definitely most noticeably) perimeter shooting ability. He no longer is limited to playing within 20 feet like he used to be. I think Wade is the best in basketball in alot of games he plays. Sure Lebron is more dominate, and Kobe is more naturally skilled, but Wade has the best all-around game in the NBA to me. Give him a better team (which he'll get sooner rather than later) and you'll hear alot of Dwyane Wade being the best player mention?

First off, he absolutely deserves mention he is in the top 3 for sure, as of now. I agree he is a better athlete then Kobe now, but more than a young Kobe? No. And I also don't think he is a better scorer than LeBron, and there are no facts to back that up either. as for flair for super plays and ability to change a game in a few minutes, yeah he can, but thats what a star is, only the select few true stars can do that. Sure he needs a better team, but don't half the other stars in the game? As for Wade being the BEST? hmmm. i wouldnt disagree with someone saying that, but i think LeBron is strides ahead of everyone else.

I think with the way the Lakers are build right now either one could fit in and it would be a championship caliber team. They are all talented in different ways. This is coming from a lakers fans. Kobe went through his year without a good team and Wade and Lebron have too as well although I will say Lebron has not really had a terrible team but their coach does not help them win games with a style that get the best of his players. Slowing the game down with the players they have had hurts them but now with Shaq that style may fit better.

Proof that Wade can score better than Lebron:

Lebron James: 28.4 ppg

Dwyane Wade: 30.2 ppg

haha good try, how about career ppg? and most pts in a game? 50+ pt games? career pts? scoring records?

LeBron wins in all those by a good margin

Leyirus. LeBron shot 78% from ft last year, and is above 73% for his career, Lets stop bashing LeBron for the select few things he doesn't do and wake up, because he can do just about everything

if LeBron isn't versatile i don't know what is

Career: This isn't a career topic, I didnt say Wade is a better career scorer or player. Last year, Wade scored more and (imo) surpassed Lebron as a scorer.

Both had the same amount of 50 point games last season (3).

Both had season high's of 55 points. I wont do career high's since this isnt a career topic.

The rest dont matter in this topic.

Ok, if you say so.

but I want to know what makes you think just this yr. he surpassed him?

You can't use one season that Wade outscored LeBron and say that he's surpassed LeBron as a scorer... That's just silly lol. You can't ignore all of the seasons LeBron outscored Wade. Wade had to score over 30 a game just for the Heat to be competitive last season. LeBron didn't have a great supporting cast, but he did have reliable scorers (except for versus Orlando in the playoffs lol) in Mo Williams, Delonte West and Zydrunas Illguaskas.

Next season Wade will average more points than LeBron too, but only because Wade has to... His supporting cast is awful.

He showed a 3 point jump shot that I never knew he had. And it made him the unstoppable scorer he ended up being last year.

LeBron has the most underrated jumper in the NBA damnit ! he's no mediocre shooter people.

Plus Wade did unveil a new jumper last year and I do believe he is a tad better as a shooter as on now, but even the %'s show otherwise, even with Wades dramatic improvement last year from 3, he still shot only 32% while LeBron shot 33%, and LeBron shot 2% better from the line. just saying

D. Wade is definitely a better mid-range shooter than LeBron. I wouldn't go as far to say that LeBron's jumper is the most underrated in the NBA lol. I think it's rated as is. Neither one of their 3P % is anything to brag about, but I think LeBron has more range and is the better 3P shooter.

The most underrated shooter in basketball is Roger Mason Jr.

I'm not saying that Wade is a great shooter, because he's not. I just think that after every other season of his career, his shot was a limitation. The fact that he showed the ability to pose a threat shooting 3's made him a better scorer than he had ever been and was the reason he broke out the way he did. Lebron may have shot a better percentage, but his shooting wasn't holding him from leading the NBA in scoring like Wade's shot was. James could just physically dominate and lead the NBA scoring the ball.

As Far as scoring goes for Lebron and Wade I think we should call it a tie. Next year I belive Michael Beasley will take a bit more of a scoring role then he did last year which will put less pressure on Wade which will give the Heat more wins which means a greater chance of an MVP.

I don't know Iggy lol. I mean, Wade only hit 88 three-pointers last season. He shot 88/278 for .317%. Is that really a threat or even respectable?

I think the reason Wade led the NBA in scoring is because he was required to do more for his team... The Heat needed him to dominate every game just to have a chance. The Cavs didn't need LeBron to score AS MUCH as the Heat needed Wade to. LeBron played less minutes than Wade and took less shots. As a matter of fact, LeBron sat out the entire fourth quarter during a ton of games lol.

Wade is a phenomenal player... He's just as dominant as LeBron, except he's four inches shorter and about 40 lbs less lol. I love Wade. It's close and definitely worth talking about, but he's not better than LeBron. They both play similar games based on athletic/physical domination and if I had to choose... I'm going with the King. It's amazing because he's THREE YEARS younger than Wade. People forget just how young LeBron is... He's 24 years old. Crazy.

He got hot some games and took over games from the perimeter. If you left him unguarded or laid off/went under screens he would light you up. Especially if he wanted to prove something. Take Game 2 (I believe) of the Hawks playoff series for example. He got on an unstoppable streak that only the best scorers can go on, hitting 3 from super deep. It wasnt a consistent threat, but it had to be watched at all times.

Iggy i agree half-heartedly, I agree he improved alot from the perimeter, enough to burn you. I disagree because everyone is unstoppable from everywhere when theyre in the zone

I just read last comment and in the Playoffs LeBron has "gotten in the Zone"
Ask the Pistons

Well he was in a zone the whole damn playoffs as a matter of fact, he averaged 35.5 damn points the whole damn playoffs

Lebron definitely got in the zone against the Hawks for the 47 point game..I was there lol. It was unbelievable...

VC won't be guarding LeBron... Mickael Pietrus will. He guarded LeBron pretty well during the playoffs.

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OH...I meant when LeBron just took over that game at the Palace a few years back

Doesn't really matter anyways...........no one can guard him

Joe Johnson isn't too weak for Lebron. And he plays good fundamental defense, moves his feet and whatnot. But Joe didnt cover Lebron that game, Mo Evans did. Joe's matchup was Delonte West. Marvin Williams is the guy that would cover Lebron, but he was hurt. Marvin Williams guarded Lebron the best of any player in the NBA last season when I saw it IMO.

Different subject, but I noticed something during the playoffs last season... It has to do with the argument of who's the best between Kobe and LeBron.

Pietrus played LeBron REALLY well. LeBron had his way, but Pietrus forced LeBron into quite a few bad shots and rushed decisions. Did anybody notice how easily Kobe dominated Pietrus in the Finals? The same D that was somewhat successful against LeBron DID NOT work on Kobe. Kobe torched Pietrus. I just found that interesting.

lebron on miami he scores 35 a night u put wade on cleavland last year he scores 25 not 28
any disagree? so that scoring proof is nothing to me

Pietrus was overmatched by Kobe, but he did better than Courtney Lee...Lee looked like a fish out of water when he guarded Kobe. I think it's because Kobe has all those head and body fakes and to take advantage of the aggressiveness Pietrus plays with. Lebron plays with athleticism and strength, and Pietrus plays an athletic style of D and he's pretty strong. He could kinda off-set it to an extent.

Exactly why I think Kobe is better than LeBron. If another player of similar size, athleticism and strength to LeBron (hard to find lol) guards him... He can be slowed down. That won't work against Kobe because he's so skilled.

he scored 30 points a game and i think hes a beast defensivly i think hes one tiny notch above Lebron now but he will overtake him soon he also has the ring. he and Kobe are close with Lebron trailing the tiniest bit.

Ummmm the Celtics are A GREAT defensive team, especially during their championship season. No one guy shut Kobe down. They shut him down with team defense. Pietrus guarded LeBron one on one and slowed him down.