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Dwyane Wade???

1st off, I Iistened to Q Haynes and The Dribble Drive show. Great stuff, they are doing big things man. We don't agree with some topics on here lol, but that show is cool and I suggest you guys give it a listen and call-in/e-mail.

Does Dwyane Wade deserve mention for being the best player in the NBA? To me, he does. Like legitimate mention. He is a better defender,passer, athlete and finisher than Kobe to me, and he is a better defender and shooter/scorer than Lebron. He also has a flair for super duper plays and the ability to change a game in a matter of a few minutes. Not that Kobe and Lebron dont, but Wade is a gamer with unbelieveable basketball skills. He is the toughest, most fearless player in basketball and it shows. He is every bit the work-a-holic Kobe Bryant is, as shown by his VASTLY improved ability to handle a PG role, defend, and (definitely most noticeably) perimeter shooting ability. He no longer is limited to playing within 20 feet like he used to be. I think Wade is the best in basketball in alot of games he plays. Sure Lebron is more dominate, and Kobe is more naturally skilled, but Wade has the best all-around game in the NBA to me. Give him a better team (which he'll get sooner rather than later) and you'll hear alot of Dwyane Wade being the best player mention?

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THANK YOU! This is what've

THANK YOU! This is what've i've been trying to say since forever....imo, Wade is the best player playing basketball today

I would add to what you said...but you pretty much covered it all...

The only thing i think that holds him back is his teams record, but of the 3, he has the worst supporting cast...

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you cannot tell me

If wade/lebron were on the Lakers instead of kobe...they would not win the west
Lebron is a 1 man team and plays 40 minutes a game
Wade is good for 5th seed vs the previous year
supporting cast is all it is Kobe

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Wade by far

Wade got more heart and passion esp in the playoff and i know i saw what he did to my piston. I cant believe ya would say lebron is better than wade because of stat. Look at last year cavs team omg. HOw did you lose to one player straight up. if lebron was great he shoulda took a page out of d howard game. HOw can you lose when your center can shoot the trey from the parking lot. explain pls.

boston vs da spurs 2010

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Agree

Wade is the best slasher in the game
Kobe is the best shooter though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2e68J2GZ-g
Dr. J said all good dunkers have good hands on Red on Roundball
Kobe has to cup the ball so its harder

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Wade is the best

Agree. And whoever said he was limited needs to shut up.

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Wade

Agreed that Wade is the best player in the NBA. The guy is nearly unstoppable especially when going to the hole. I am kind of surprised that no one considers him an heir to Jordan, despite the fact that anyone that has watched him and Jordan play should have noticed Wade's game is the most similar to that of MJ of anyone up until now. Not only is he great, but no one ever shuts him down and when it's crunch time you always believe the guy is going to make the big play and he usually does. He does some ridiculous things and he never had great players surrounding him. The Miami team was a team that he carried to the championship. Put him on the Lakers team that recently lost to the Celtics instead of Kobe and I guarantee you that the Lakers win it all.

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He gew up in

He grew up in Chicago and he admitted he gets most of his game from Jordan. But something that surprised me is that he said he got some of his game from Sam Cassell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjKBIXhO2jY
2 minute mark LOL

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Let me copy n paste this so i can reply to everything

Does Dwyane Wade deserve mention for being the best player in the NBA? To me, he does. Like legitimate mention. He is a better defender,passer, athlete and finisher than Kobe to me, and he is a better defender and shooter/scorer than Lebron. He also has a flair for super duper plays and the ability to change a game in a matter of a few minutes. Not that Kobe and Lebron dont, but Wade is a gamer with unbelieveable basketball skills. He is the toughest, most fearless player in basketball and it shows. He is every bit the work-a-holic Kobe Bryant is, as shown by his VASTLY improved ability to handle a PG role, defend, and (definitely most noticeably) perimeter shooting ability. He no longer is limited to playing within 20 feet like he used to be. I think Wade is the best in basketball in alot of games he plays. Sure Lebron is more dominate, and Kobe is more naturally skilled, but Wade has the best all-around game in the NBA to me. Give him a better team (which he'll get sooner rather than later) and you'll hear alot of Dwyane Wade being the best player mention?

First off, he absolutely deserves mention he is in the top 3 for sure, as of now. I agree he is a better athlete then Kobe now, but more than a young Kobe? No. And I also don't think he is a better scorer than LeBron, and there are no facts to back that up either. as for flair for super plays and ability to change a game in a few minutes, yeah he can, but thats what a star is, only the select few true stars can do that. Sure he needs a better team, but don't half the other stars in the game? As for Wade being the BEST? hmmm. i wouldnt disagree with someone saying that, but i think LeBron is strides ahead of everyone else.

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Let me copy n paste this so i can reply to everything

Does Dwyane Wade deserve mention for being the best player in the NBA? To me, he does. Like legitimate mention. He is a better defender,passer, athlete and finisher than Kobe to me, and he is a better defender and shooter/scorer than Lebron. He also has a flair for super duper plays and the ability to change a game in a matter of a few minutes. Not that Kobe and Lebron dont, but Wade is a gamer with unbelieveable basketball skills. He is the toughest, most fearless player in basketball and it shows. He is every bit the work-a-holic Kobe Bryant is, as shown by his VASTLY improved ability to handle a PG role, defend, and (definitely most noticeably) perimeter shooting ability. He no longer is limited to playing within 20 feet like he used to be. I think Wade is the best in basketball in alot of games he plays. Sure Lebron is more dominate, and Kobe is more naturally skilled, but Wade has the best all-around game in the NBA to me. Give him a better team (which he'll get sooner rather than later) and you'll hear alot of Dwyane Wade being the best player mention?

First off, he absolutely deserves mention he is in the top 3 for sure, as of now. I agree he is a better athlete then Kobe now, but more than a young Kobe? No. And I also don't think he is a better scorer than LeBron, and there are no facts to back that up either. as for flair for super plays and ability to change a game in a few minutes, yeah he can, but thats what a star is, only the select few true stars can do that. Sure he needs a better team, but don't half the other stars in the game? As for Wade being the BEST? hmmm. i wouldnt disagree with someone saying that, but i think LeBron is strides ahead of everyone else.

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I think with the way the

I think with the way the Lakers are build right now either one could fit in and it would be a championship caliber team. They are all talented in different ways. This is coming from a lakers fans. Kobe went through his year without a good team and Wade and Lebron have too as well although I will say Lebron has not really had a terrible team but their coach does not help them win games with a style that get the best of his players. Slowing the game down with the players they have had hurts them but now with Shaq that style may fit better.

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they all play like me ;)

they all play like me ;)

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Proof that Wade can score

Proof that Wade can score better than Lebron:

Lebron James: 28.4 ppg

Dwyane Wade: 30.2 ppg

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?

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haha good try, how about

haha good try, how about career ppg? and most pts in a game? 50+ pt games? career pts? scoring records?

LeBron wins in all those by a good margin

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are you serious?

50 points a game give wade some help. he got two rookies his team and he is still balling.

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Leyirus. LeBron shot 78%

Leyirus. LeBron shot 78% from ft last year, and is above 73% for his career, Lets stop bashing LeBron for the select few things he doesn't do and wake up, because he can do just about everything

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if LeBron isn't versatile i

if LeBron isn't versatile i don't know what is

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Career: This isn't a career

Career: This isn't a career topic, I didnt say Wade is a better career scorer or player. Last year, Wade scored more and (imo) surpassed Lebron as a scorer.

Both had the same amount of 50 point games last season (3).

Both had season high's of 55 points. I wont do career high's since this isnt a career topic.

The rest dont matter in this topic.

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Ok, if you say so. but I

Ok, if you say so.

but I want to know what makes you think just this yr. he surpassed him?

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You can't use one season

You can't use one season that Wade outscored LeBron and say that he's surpassed LeBron as a scorer... That's just silly lol. You can't ignore all of the seasons LeBron outscored Wade. Wade had to score over 30 a game just for the Heat to be competitive last season. LeBron didn't have a great supporting cast, but he did have reliable scorers (except for versus Orlando in the playoffs lol) in Mo Williams, Delonte West and Zydrunas Illguaskas.

Next season Wade will average more points than LeBron too, but only because Wade has to... His supporting cast is awful.

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He showed a 3 point jump

He showed a 3 point jump shot that I never knew he had. And it made him the unstoppable scorer he ended up being last year.

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LeBron has the most

LeBron has the most underrated jumper in the NBA damnit ! he's no mediocre shooter people.

Plus Wade did unveil a new jumper last year and I do believe he is a tad better as a shooter as on now, but even the %'s show otherwise, even with Wades dramatic improvement last year from 3, he still shot only 32% while LeBron shot 33%, and LeBron shot 2% better from the line. just saying

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D. Wade is definitely a

D. Wade is definitely a better mid-range shooter than LeBron. I wouldn't go as far to say that LeBron's jumper is the most underrated in the NBA lol. I think it's rated as is. Neither one of their 3P % is anything to brag about, but I think LeBron has more range and is the better 3P shooter.

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LEbron will be the best

LEbron CAN be the GOAT when he can come off screens and knock down multiple jumpers
plus when he's hitting free throws he's unstoppable

agree or disagree?

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The most underrated shooter

The most underrated shooter in basketball is Roger Mason Jr.

I'm not saying that Wade is a great shooter, because he's not. I just think that after every other season of his career, his shot was a limitation. The fact that he showed the ability to pose a threat shooting 3's made him a better scorer than he had ever been and was the reason he broke out the way he did. Lebron may have shot a better percentage, but his shooting wasn't holding him from leading the NBA in scoring like Wade's shot was. James could just physically dominate and lead the NBA scoring the ball.

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As Far as scoring goes for

As Far as scoring goes for Lebron and Wade I think we should call it a tie. Next year I belive Michael Beasley will take a bit more of a scoring role then he did last year which will put less pressure on Wade which will give the Heat more wins which means a greater chance of an MVP.

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Beasley is a typical volume shooter

Beasley is a power forward
He is a legit 3rd option (slasher/fast break finisher) not a real pure knock down shooter
like Danny Granger or Rudy Gay
I'd like to see a backcourt of Wade and Rudy Gay (restricted free agent 2010)

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I don't know Iggy lol. I

I don't know Iggy lol. I mean, Wade only hit 88 three-pointers last season. He shot 88/278 for .317%. Is that really a threat or even respectable?

I think the reason Wade led the NBA in scoring is because he was required to do more for his team... The Heat needed him to dominate every game just to have a chance. The Cavs didn't need LeBron to score AS MUCH as the Heat needed Wade to. LeBron played less minutes than Wade and took less shots. As a matter of fact, LeBron sat out the entire fourth quarter during a ton of games lol.

Wade is a phenomenal player... He's just as dominant as LeBron, except he's four inches shorter and about 40 lbs less lol. I love Wade. It's close and definitely worth talking about, but he's not better than LeBron. They both play similar games based on athletic/physical domination and if I had to choose... I'm going with the King. It's amazing because he's THREE YEARS younger than Wade. People forget just how young LeBron is... He's 24 years old. Crazy.

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WHAT

I can't believe what im reading. Wade is better than lebron as of today. When lebron got to the final he disappear straight up. how can you be the face on the NBA and get the broom? Lebron cry to much for me right now. I used to dislike Dwade but as of now i have to give him his props. Look at his team, matter of fact look at what he did to the Mavs that one yr. I will say this the cavs will make the playoff without lebron easy. Do you really believe the Heat will even make the playoff without Wade? matter of fact put lebron on the heat and put wade on the cavs omg. HOw can you say lebron is a beast, and if he was a beast he woulda took care of the Magic. D howard went thru da cavs. Lebron shoulda did the same thing but instead he got locked up by michael p. do you really think wade woulda let one person shut em down. it take a team to stop wade not one player. Give wade some slack straight up. if he didnt get hurt that one yr he was on his way for another title.

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He got hot some games and

He got hot some games and took over games from the perimeter. If you left him unguarded or laid off/went under screens he would light you up. Especially if he wanted to prove something. Take Game 2 (I believe) of the Hawks playoff series for example. He got on an unstoppable streak that only the best scorers can go on, hitting 3 from super deep. It wasnt a consistent threat, but it had to be watched at all times.

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Iggy i agree half-heartedly,

Iggy i agree half-heartedly, I agree he improved alot from the perimeter, enough to burn you. I disagree because everyone is unstoppable from everywhere when theyre in the zone

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But did Lebron

But did Lebron "get in a zone" in the playoffs?

I think Lebron needs to get some more quickness back so he can
create space more for his jumper
Or is his jump shot release just 2 slow? IDK

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Ummm

I just read last comment and in the Playoffs LeBron has "gotten in the Zone"
Ask the Pistons

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Well he was in a zone the

Well he was in a zone the whole damn playoffs as a matter of fact, he averaged 35.5 damn points the whole damn playoffs

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He was slashing for 40 minutes

He was slashing for 40 minutes
Believe me
my roomate was from Ohio
we watched every damn Cleveland game

He drove and kicked all playoffs against:
Rip Hamilton/Tayshaun Prince - 2 skinny
twisted ankle Joe Johnson/Josh Smith - 2 slow
when it got 2 the magic they just had too many guys to guard him and shoot the three all day

but with Turkoglu gone broke knees Vince Carter gonna have to d him up

YIKES!!!

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Lebron definitely got in the

Lebron definitely got in the zone against the Hawks for the 47 point game..I was there lol. It was unbelievable...

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Joe Johnson

Joe Johnson is 6'8 250
and Lebron destroyed him
Lebron is just too freakish fast/strong for Joe Johnson

I liked Josh Smith guarding him/ he was 6'9 blocked his shot a couple times

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VC won't be guarding

VC won't be guarding LeBron... Mickael Pietrus will. He guarded LeBron pretty well during the playoffs.

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Double Post

Double Post

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OH...I meant when LeBron

OH...I meant when LeBron just took over that game at the Palace a few years back

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Doesn't really matter

Doesn't really matter anyways...........no one can guard him

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Joe Johnson isn't too weak

Joe Johnson isn't too weak for Lebron. And he plays good fundamental defense, moves his feet and whatnot. But Joe didnt cover Lebron that game, Mo Evans did. Joe's matchup was Delonte West. Marvin Williams is the guy that would cover Lebron, but he was hurt. Marvin Williams guarded Lebron the best of any player in the NBA last season when I saw it IMO.

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Different subject, but I

Different subject, but I noticed something during the playoffs last season... It has to do with the argument of who's the best between Kobe and LeBron.

Pietrus played LeBron REALLY well. LeBron had his way, but Pietrus forced LeBron into quite a few bad shots and rushed decisions. Did anybody notice how easily Kobe dominated Pietrus in the Finals? The same D that was somewhat successful against LeBron DID NOT work on Kobe. Kobe torched Pietrus. I just found that interesting.

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u put

lebron on miami he scores 35 a night u put wade on cleavland last year he scores 25 not 28
any disagree? so that scoring proof is nothing to me

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Pietrus was overmatched by

Pietrus was overmatched by Kobe, but he did better than Courtney Lee...Lee looked like a fish out of water when he guarded Kobe. I think it's because Kobe has all those head and body fakes and to take advantage of the aggressiveness Pietrus plays with. Lebron plays with athleticism and strength, and Pietrus plays an athletic style of D and he's pretty strong. He could kinda off-set it to an extent.

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Exactly why I think Kobe is

Exactly why I think Kobe is better than LeBron. If another player of similar size, athleticism and strength to LeBron (hard to find lol) guards him... He can be slowed down. That won't work against Kobe because he's so skilled.

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Ummmm

Did you watch Kobe in the finals against the Celtics? Yeah...LeBron is head and shoulders above everyone in the NBA. Put LeBron on the Lakers and they sweep the Magic in the finals and don't even argue it. Switch Wade and LeBron and the Cavs lose way more games and the Heat when way more games.

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he scored 30 points a game

he scored 30 points a game and i think hes a beast defensivly i think hes one tiny notch above Lebron now but he will overtake him soon he also has the ring. he and Kobe are close with Lebron trailing the tiniest bit.

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Ummmm the Celtics are A GREAT defensive team, especially during their championship season. No one guy shut Kobe down. They shut him down with team defense. Pietrus guarded LeBron one on one and slowed him down.

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