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Ron Harper was almost as nice as Mike?

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At least I cited someone. You haven't cited anyone! lol!

QUNICY HODGES per RON HARPER: "he was just a good offensive player ..thats it.. "

There are three people on this thread who said Harper was a good defender. Me, Sheltwon and Qhayes, all pretty respectable opinions.....No one agrees with you!

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fyi, the people you mentioned didn't say that Harper wasn't either, lol!

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give it up dhamp youre

give it up dhamp youre wrong..he wasnt close to being as good as jordan nor was he called the first next jordan..there was a players name who i forget who was a street baller who some nba players said was the next jordan as well as a couple of ther players..just because harpers is the first name you remeber hearing doesnt mean he was the first to be called that. if you hear me say some kid is the next lebron, then hear some other people say it does it mean no one has said some other kid was the first lebron?..nope..and im pretty interested in seeing what other nba players said this and youre proof of the quote of them saying that since you were the one who said "Bottom line, unless you can prove otherwise. Me, C-web, everyone on Draft.net remembers Harper being the new Jordan"...but you have shown no proof of all these nba players saying that nor that EVERYONE saying he was..actually quincy named off more people who said he wasnt....sounds like youre the lier here buddy. i also agree how cana player who never made a allstar team, first team all nba,finals mvp etc beconsidered almost as good as jordan?..

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im still waiting on that

im still waiting on that proof about nba players saying he was the next jordan..and the arguement wasnt people who said he was a good defender remeber. it was who thought he was the next jordan..dont try to change it now

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"It was a concensus. Much

"It was a concensus. Much like everyone knowing Lebron and Kobe are the best players in the NBA. Everyone just knew. Bottom line, unless you can prove otherwise. Me, C-web, everyone on Draft.net remembers Harper being the new Jordan"

where in there is the tpic about people agreeing he was a good defender??????..this is about him being the new jordan correct...so my statement stands as far as the people i name not agreeing he was the new jordan

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Jakarii33....I've never heard of you so you're irrelevant. In my only response to you, I NEVER SAID RON HARPER WAS AS GOOD AS JORDAN. Please-reread all of my post and tell me where I said that. lol.

He was the first next Jordan however, which is what I've said 30 times alread. Please re-read the posts. Clown. Learn how to read.

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sup-Ron Harper was almost as

sup-Ron Harper was almost as nice as Mike before he got hurt? Wow

magic- says who....im not a mind reader but that seems liek he doesnt agree

qhaynes-Watch....he's gonna say " Im not talking about Micheal Jordan"

I agree QH....topics card revoked..sounds like another

scout4real-He was a good scorer yes. 20 plus yeah, but he was not as good as Mike.
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My arguement The Cavs were a non playoff team with Harper until they added Brad Daugherty, then they put up a big season, but still lost in the 1st round of the playoffs, the whole time Harper played for the Cavs they were either a non playoff team or 1st round losers. Pretty good, yeah, you can say that, but not that good.

jakarii33-give it up dhamp he wasnt even close

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Like I've said, announces,

Like I've said, announces, and players. So tell me who said Harper wasn't for the 1 million time.

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ok now there are the people

ok now there are the people who dont agree..so that shows you lied about EVERYONE on here agreeing wit you.....so now...name the announcers and players who said that AND post the link where they said it so all of us can see it...cuz like you said i need proof to back up my statement so im guessing you hold youre self to the same standard. you just saying nba players and announcers saying it just doesnt cut it...so go ahead and get this proof and we will all sit and wait:)

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sup-Ron Harper was ALMOST as nice as Mike before he got hurt? Wow

Ron Harper WAS ALMOST as nice as Jordan. That is true. Look at his stats. Oh sorry, even when they are put in your face you deny them.

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Is Kobe Bryant is a good player. Um, yeah. How do you know. Becaue everyone knows he is.

And can you please name someone who says Harper was the first "Next Jordan." I listed C-Webb. You have noone.

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you named one person who is

you named one person who is known to put up outrageous post...lol..are you serious...so that one person equals EVERYONE as you say on here agreeing?..i named 6 buddy..and wait what happened to the announcers and nba players....ooooooh you wanna go to stats to see if harper was ALMOST as nice as jordan...yes lets do that....wouldnt almost as nice mean harper would be a all star at least 5times?...leauge mvp?..finals mvp?..first team all nba?

harpers stats before injurd
year one
22pts 4reb 4ast 2steals
15 3 4 2
18 5 5 2
22 7 7
23 5 4
22 6 5
19 4 5
18 5 5

and you know steals...should i really put up jordans stats now?

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At least I named one person!!! Were waiting on you.

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you only listed one nba

you only listed one nba player...you said nba players and announcers......you really used the kobe example...i dont hear announcers saying harper was almost as good as jordan or the next jordan...that was a horrible example even you have to know that.....SHOW ME YOURE PROOF OF ANNOUNCERS AND NBA PLAYERS SAYING IT!!!!!! you named one nba player..you said concensous..one nba player doesnt make it a concensus....lol...man keep diggng that hole...but im patient im still gonna sit and wait for youre proof

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Don't forget blocks and

Don't forget blocks and shooting percentage!!!! Yeah, sometimes his fg was 50 percent. HA HA HA. And there weren't many shooting guards avg a block per game during the 80s. It sorta Dewayne Wadesque!

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waiting on me to say

waiting on me to say what?..did i say i have proof of nba players saying he wasnt the next jordan???..no because there would be no proof of that since nba players dont go around saying..." hey mike conley is the next isah thomas...lol..my proof was proving you WRONG that everyone on here doesnt think harper was as YOU lied and claimed everyone on here did think that. then you lie again and say a bunch of announcers and nba players said harper was but you can seem to only name webber yet said it was a concensous

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It was understood and please forgive but youtube wasn't around in 1987. Speaking of being a liar.

QUNICY HODGES per RON HARPER: "he was just a good offensive player ..thats it.. "

Stop the lies.

1986: 2.55 stl and 1 blk
1987: 2.17 stl and .091 blk
1988: 2.26 stl and .90 blk
1989: 2.39 stl. and 1.14 blk
1990: 2.00 stl and 1.39 bll

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are you serious dhamp....in

are you serious dhamp....in order to be as good as jordan you have to have the hardware....that means mvps, finals mvps, allstar game. this is a player who has none of those things. And you did say it was a concensous that nba players and announsers said he was the next or almost as good..yet you named one...so one out of how many nba players makes it a concensous?

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yet i explained that i was

yet i explained that i was talking about the only thing comparable was his offense..lol..you can tell he knows hes wrong because he keeps bringing something up i already explained...yet he cant name any more nba players or one announcers..lol..you said it was a concensous..wheres all the other nba players and nbadraft.net guys..lol..you look very dumb right now for lying

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youtube ddidnt have to be

youtube ddidnt have to be around...there should be articles and quotes....so i should say" its a concensous that announcers said harper wasnt the next mj or that harper was a bump. and then have no quotes to back it up and that would make me right?..lol

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Dude really, Jakarrii33. Get your stuff straight. You're getting everything confused! lol!!! For the last time.

1. Ron Harper was called the first "next Jordan" shortly after coming into the league and before the injuries. Can you handle that so far. 1 plus 1 = 2. Just like Harold Minor "Baby Jordan," Hill, Rider, Kobe and Lebron. Ok 2 plus 1 = 3. Are you still there. Welcome to second grade algebra.

2. Still with me. Good boy. Now, it's hard to follow, but, going back to the original thread, I said yes Ron Harper was ALMOST as nice as Michael Jordan before the injury. Still there little Jakarrii33. Good boy. He was a great defender and scorer. You have to learn to stop misquoting people. It's important. Now, Harlper, could have done more, but he was unselfish. His teammated included, Daughtery, Price, Williams, Ehlo and Nance.

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he was not a great

he was not a great scorer..he averaged around 21 a game before injury how does that make him a great scorer..no where near mj you havent gave one hint of proof that he was even almost as good as mj...so what else does everyone agree on on here according to you?..and what other concensous that the announcers and nba players agree on..lol

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mj has mvps finals mvps, all

mj has mvps finals mvps, all stars appearrances,all star mvp lead his team to championships not just a piece. all nba first teams. all defense first teams. defensive players of the years. olympic golds

ron harper has none of that yet he was almost as good as jordan?.....

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are you ready to admit you

are you ready to admit you lied about everyone on nbadraft.net thinking harper was almost as good as jordan and it was a concensous that nba players and announcers also thought he was almost as good?..because you havent named any announcers and one nba player and you only named sup as far as nbadraft.net users...ill even give you shewlton you and sup. that leaves you how many short of everyone?..when you are proving a point make sure you dont lie about it or speak for other people before knowing what they think in order to make youre point valid

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Here goes one: Read about all of the next Michael Jordan's including Ron Harper:

http://heat.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/401105441/m/557107862

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-Ron Harper Harper was one

-Ron Harper

Harper was one of the league's most exciting players in the late 1980s. He could dunk with the best of them. Sadly, he went down with a nasty knee injury in 1990 that caused him to lose much of his speed and leaping ability.

Later on in his career, he teamed with Jordan in Chicago to form a strong defensive backcourt. Harper helped the Bulls win three titles before picking up two more rings with the Lakers.

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Somebody on here also

Somebody on here also mention Hopson!!!

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you havent even shown proof

you havent even shown proof that harper was called the first next jordan?..so all you have proven is that thats youre opinion. and as Q said you had to lie and say everyone on here agree with you and that it was a concensous with announcers and nba players yet all you canname is cwebb?..you really made youre self look like a fool tonight buddy. as a matter of fact you havent shown any proof that harper was even almost as good as jordan. harper was even as good as brandon roy nor as good as kevein durant RIGHT NOW. everyday imma call you out asking for youre proof where ever i see you post untill you A. admit you lied about everyone on here agreeing with you and the concensus nba players and announcers thing or B. you just avoid comming on here which i think neither will happen. see it was all good when you just stated youre opnion because everyone is intitled to that. its when you decided to lie and say everyone agreed with you and the nba and announcer thing, that you took it beyong opinion

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now im not gonna take it

now im not gonna take it that far......what you just said was what everyone agrees with..harper being a good player...but nothing in there says him being almost as good as jordan. most exciting doesnt equal one of the best. im sure youre smart enough to know that....before he got injuried he made zero allstar teams. ZERO. his highest scoring averaged is barely above jordans lowest yet you consider him a great scorer?. harper didnt take over games. he was never considered th best at his position in the nba in the eastern or western conference or even in his conference so in what way was he almost as good as jordan?

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WAS HE COMPARED TO JORDAN.

WAS HE COMPARED TO JORDAN. GO TO THE LINK.

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isnt the arguement that he

isnt the arguement that he was almost as good as jordan?..even highschool players are COMPARED to a player..thats different from being almost as good

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this might hurt a lil but

this might hurt a lil but this article says who was actually the first to be labled as the next jordan...i recall mentioning this guys name also

http://theageofconsent.blogspot.com/2008/11/evolution-of-next-jordan.html

Penny was the first to actually be labeled the "Next Jordan" in his rookie season with the Orlando Magic. Hardaway and Shaquille O'Neal lead the Magic from the lottery to the NBA Finals during Jordan's 1st retirement. This only helped fan the flames of "Next Jordan" talk. Sadly, Penny never really met his potential as an NBA elite. After mediocre stints with the Phoenix Suns, New York Knicks and a brief reuniting with Shaquille O'Neal in Miami, Penny was ultimately set out to pasture.

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I see both sides here

But Dhamp...Just because you average a lot of steals and a block doesn't mean you're a good defender. I'm not saying he wasn't, but you can't go off of 2.5 steals and 1 block to say he's a great defender.

Quincey-I agree, his stats don't even touch MJ's.

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thank you..yet another who i

thank you..yet another who i can add to the list..hey dhamp i thought you said its a concensous that everyone on here thought harper was almost as good as jordan???..lol

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YOU IDIOT. HAROLD MINER WAS

YOU IDIOT. HAROLD MINER WAS IN THE 1992 DRAFT AND WAS IMMEDIATELY DUBBED BABY JORDAN

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Miner, who was nicknamed

Miner, who was nicknamed "Baby Jordan" for his dunking ability, was never actually labeled/considered the "Next Jordan". Thus the reason for his absence on this list. .also in the link.....now whos the idiot..you claim to know so much yet you didnt know the only reason minor was in the convo was because of his dunking ability....NUFF SAID

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Dhamp this is a losing

Dhamp this is a losing battle because honestly, people have a strange rationale and don't listen. I watch basketball for the longest and i am like 29 now. I may not have been big into NBA basketball until 91 i will say that but since then I been a basketball fanatic almost. because of Jordan's early success, people with that potential was being dubbed the next Jordan. This was before Jordan won his rings. he was a top athletic player that soaring with dunks and he defended decent. At that point in time a young Ron Harper can on the scene and did well in his rookie season drawing comparisons to Michael Jordan. That is all that is trying to be said. Somehow a lot of these youngsters are not getting it.

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