Question to all Forum Members
I personally believe the NBA will be entering its greatest era of all time, top to bottom. The influx of young talent starting around Lebrons Draft and continuing until now, combined with the standard that the top players in the league are setting, will give NBA fans some seriously talented players to look forward to following. I cant recall a time when so many young players had so much talent and potential. Agree? Disagree? Discuss.
Now that deserves a point, can't agree more, LeBron, Wade, Melo, Durant, Howard, Paul, Williams, Rose, Roy, Gay,
Wall(I believe)Bargnani,Bosh ect. soo many future great ones it;s gonna be incredible really
yeah its packed nowadays theres so much good training out there that will just keep improving that will make the talent better and better more and more people are trying to play in the nba and it will so talented soon.
It's like I always say, the game evolves. Each generation pushes the next generation to improve. I truly believe that athleticism, speed, shooting, creativity, defense, post game will only get better overall.
On the other hand, with all of this talent in. Do you think the NBA should get more teams like in Kansas City-Albuquerque-Seattle-ect. I mean after all you can't have a complately stacked team, and if this actually becomes like that, teams need to distribute players because more than likely every team has that one guy they go to.
To answer your question, i dont think so, teams with more tars/talent would bring out the true great ones who can and want to win and will do anything to get there, no matter who or what is on their team, plus more competition wouldn't hurt.
I like the direction it is heading, I wish the "old school" kind of gritty defensive play of the 80's would make a come back. The NBA is the best its been since the late 90's and defense has improved since then, but in my opinion the league need more Battier's and lock down defenders as well as complete offense/defense players and less all offense no defense players.
Nope, these players suck for the most part they just have more cameras and media coverage than back in the day. Kobe can't see Michael and Kobe OWNS this league...simple as that. If Webber was young he'd dominate so would David Robinson, Hakeem lolz. The list goes on. Are players taller yeah but they suck...,Patrick Ewing would be better than Dwight Howard...so would Rik Smits lolz. Lebron is like the Russian in Rocky part 4, a specimen with no heart. Brandon Roy is soft, the next tmac. Dwade doesnt have the focus. Chris Paul had a dominant year couple years ago he might be rare but its hard to tell with the lack of defense and IQ out there. Derrick Rose needs two more years of college he is not a smart player. Rondo would get cut in the 90's and 80's. The draft class of 09 is laughable Steph Curry included. Carmelo, Lebron and Durant would be impressive in any decade but thats just the progression of the game, big athletic guys can play outside more, its to be expected.
I'm sorry man, but I had to quit reading at Rik Smits was better then Dwight Howard.
lol..rondo would get cut is pretty funny..rondo was better then many pg of the 80's come on now..wade no focus..well theres alot of suppossedly much more focus guys that dont have a ring nor championship mvp. i do agree the centers you named would dominate but thats pretty obvious since they are hall of famers so youre not really making much of a point. thats liek me saying boxing isnt that great because is joe louis was fighting today he would dominate. and id hope patrick would be better then dwight right now seeing as dwight hasnt yet reached his potenial. the chris paul lack of defense is laughable also. i have a question..how many players ever can stop another starting nba player from scoring a point?.. i dont recaqll anyone completely dominating paul and those who do play well against him do that against all pg
I am just explaining that this isnt some great time in basketball history just b/c the media covers more players. These players are not the greatest, wake up shaq had a big role in that ring, he left and the heat suck. Rik Smits would be great today, and he was whatever. Rondo would get cut he's too whack and to not be able to shoot at all? thats crazy. Dwight Howard has no moves, Phil Jackson made a mockery of him. What I was saying about Chris Paul is he may be a great or the NBA may just be playing terrible defense its hard to say. He is talented and smart, it is hard for me to believe though that he would've dominated another era.
riiiiiight...ok lets break this down...roy sparrow was a worst shooter then rondo yet played 10 years in the nba all through the 80's the same with toney brown,darrell walker and ricky green( i can name 30 or more others also. yet you think rondo would get cut even though he puts up better numbers, has a ring, close to making the all star team?...i just pretty much disproved youre he woul dbe cut theory unless you have some sort of proof that he would get cut. shaq left wade got hurt then the heat suck..you take jordan away and pippen gets hurt bulls suck you take any supper star away from there team and there second or supperstar b gets hurt then the teams suck. i do recall shaq going to the suns and yet they didnt do much. rik smits would be pretty good today..great no when youre great youre great in the era yu played in. dwight howard is still learning has no moves yet he still dominates.. wilt didnt have a bunch of moves and he over powered other centers so are you saying hes not great either. so if phil makes a mockery of someone they arent good.. thats funny because he made a mockery of kobe in his book also. some one can make a even better arguement that the players back then wouldnt be able to dominate now because some of the players werent as strong or athletic or some other bs and i wouldnt disagree with that also. also no one has said howard is the greatest or paul..they are still growing as players and learning just like players did back then when they were young. you consider if they are great or not when there career is over or almost over and/ or they have past there peak years
I think from about 1988 until about 1993 remains the greatest era of talent the NBA has ever seen.
The following all played at least parts of their prime within this time period;
The greatest player of all time: Jordan
The best all-around forward of all time; Larry Bird
2 of arguably the 4 greatest power forwards of all time: Malone (probably #2) and Barkley
3 of arguably the 7 greatest PGs of all time; Magic (possibly the first or second), Isaiah and Stockton.
The best defensive SF of all time: Pippin
3 of the ten best centers ever; Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson
That's not even including Hall of Famers like Clyde Drexler, James Worthy, Kevin McHale, Robert Parrish and Nique Wilkins.
Or other stars like Bernard King, Alex English, Reggie Miller, Chris Mullens, Joe Dumars, Tom Chambers, Dennis Rodman, Kevin Johnson, Mark Price, Brad Daugherty, Rik Smits, Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond and Fat Lever.
Nobody's a worse shooter than Rondo. He's like Rodman. He will have a shot two feet from the basket and dribble out. He's like Rodman except he is a guard and he is not on track to be in the hall of fame.
i agree hes awful but still anyone would take someone with his amazing defense, playmaking, and scoring abilities as at least a backup. garuntee you he wouldnt have been cut.
I just read the rest of your comment. Are you comparing Wilt to Dwight Howard, lolz. Greatness wouldn't carry over that's the point these players are good b/c of their faint competition. Miami sucks, dwayne wade hasn't been focused on anything but tmoblie and converse, lolz. Beasly is in desperate need of a mentor (just saying.) Dwight Howard should "learn his moves" in a college setting, he has been in the nba 5 yrs. I think Phil made a mockery of Dwight Howard in the nba finals. Not in some opinionated, based on a true story novel...there's a difference.
Well put. Chris Paul = Tim Hardaway
Also the inconsistancies of the 2000+ Dream Teams further prove my point.
P.S. They would've lost that last game without Kobe
You're right in that we have no way of knowing if he would've really been cut. But defense? Derrick Rose tied Kareem Abdul Jabbar's Rookie debut record on him.
I don't think the DreamTeams arent as dominant as before because of the NBA talent, but the Euro talent has now sorta cought up, alot of NBA stars nowadays play for their teams also ex. Tony Parker France, Nowitzki Germany, Gasol Spain
Nah aint no catching up...lose to Puerto Rico?
I don't really agree, there are not many quality bigs now, the defense is falling with Battier not as before, Bowen and Mutombo retired, Wallace and Camby near to retirement... the league doesn't have much to offer near to them, the last two DPOY were KG and Dwight...
The guard level sure got better, but that is also because of the addition of the defensive three seconds rule
I liked the league more before
I don't think the defense is falling. If anything its just become harder to defend based on hand checking rules and increased guard skill. Defense was primarily ployed with the hands, pushing, hitting, cheap play, and slapping at the ball. Now players have to defend with their feet more than anything to keep up with the increasing speed of the athletes. Take current legends like Kobe, Duncan, Nash, Nowitzki, Garnett, Pierce, Carter, players entering their prime and still with tons of experience, Lebron, Wade, Melo, Iguodala. Parker, Roy, Jefferson, Bosh, Williams, JJohnson, Paul, Durant, Granger, Aldridge, Butler, Arenas, Yao, Harris, Lopez, Rose, Mayo, Beasley... the list goes on. There were players in the past that were anomalies in players, but I can name at least five players that can do what the starts of the past could do. Maybe not the super stars, but the Bernard King, Alex English, Reggie Miller, Chris Mullens, Joe Dumars, Tom Chambers, Dennis Rodman, Kevin Johnson, Mark Price, Brad Daugherty, Rik Smits, Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond and Fat Lever's.
I stand by my opinion, more talent is entering the league than ever before, and no matter what, talent wins.
And Chris Paul is way better than hardaway. hardaway is Marbury minus 2 inches
You are correct that it is getting harder to defend because of new rules and increased athletism of players nowadays, but every year it seems that the NBA comes out with new rules, which usually favors the offense.
It also seems that players aren't making the effort to play defense like they should or are capable of because once they get into the NBA and get their fat contracts, their isn't much motivation to get better.
dude that was one game he did bad. when you play defense its season long not one game and besides that game he did pretty good, he also did pretty good against Rose in the rest of that series.
That's true fat contracts ruining the NBA.
still more talented players are currently playing than ever before imo. if your lookin at the stats thats because theyre all retired except for shaq, a line up of cp3,dwill,wade,kobe,LJ,KD,melo,KG,TD,amare,dwight,yao maybe able to beat any line up from different era. yes hakeem, drobinson, ewing are great players but their hall of famers already.. and who are the other centers that they play against that time?? zan tabak? mills? miller? longley? jim mclvaine? whats the spelling? like the other guy said.. talent wins.. anyway thanks to them.. players today learned a lot from them.. but saying somethin like these players suck?? lol.. what do you expect huh? hahaha.