New Age Point Guard
In the 60's The Point Guards open up there First era of PG. The do all Point Guard. With PG such as Bob Cousy and Oscar Robeson running the Floor these PG did not only Run there team but at the same time Dazzle the Crowd with there abilities
In the 70's We saw the Point Guard dominate in areas which a Point Guard Usually Would Not. With Nate Archibald Leading The League in Points the Basketball Community was in ore. Then There Was Walt Fraizer Who took the world by storm with his Defense
In the 80's you already know Which Point Guard Comes to mind Magic Johnson. Though he was part of the legacy he wasn't all of it. This era really showed that Point Guards really were a key component in winning Championships With Both Magic and Issiah Thomas winning the championship MVP (i know Isiah won his in 1990 but his run in the finals started in 89)
In the 90's Fraizers Idea of Point Guard Defense came into to this new Blood. John Stockton feared for his on ball steals and Gary "the Glove" Payton was always ready to shut down your allstar player. However these PG didn't get lost in translation when it came to offensive plays. Possible seen as a slower class for PG however had the smarts to stop the quickest of players.
When we Started the 21st centuary it was almost like a spin Cycle. PG not seen as great Defenders. But rather as Fast as Fast can be. With Allen Iverson, Steve Nash and Chris Paul Running the Show even there own Players had to take a double look to see were these Blurs
Now as we near in to 2010 a new era of PG are coming and I can Already see were its Heading and heres my take. Derrick Rose, John Wall and Russell Westbrook. All i can say is get the camera rolling there is going to be some Highlight Film Athletism going on this era all i can say is shamWOW
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I do agree that the PGs of the upcoming generation (Wall, Rose, Westbrook, Rubio) seem to be incredibly athletic with flashy games.
That being said I actually think they are a throwback to the 70s era of points; Walt Frazier, Earl Monroe, Pistol Pete and Nate Archibald were all jaw droppingly athletic and were highlight reels waiting to happen.
What canesboy is saying is also true;
"Teams are getting these big explosive guys that would have been shooting guards 10 years ago because they want the ball in the hands of their best athlete. They want the guy with the ball on the break to be a threat at the rim."
This also applies to the 70s era pgs who were for the most part taller guys that were capable of being devastating scorers as well as distributors; Pete was 6-5, Walt 6-4 and Monroe 6-3, nate tiny archibald was the smallest and he was 6-1 and one season averaged 34 ppg.
First and foremost I want to say that this is a great topic. The new age of the point guard is so exciting! With players like Derrick Rose, John Wall and Russell Westbrook being so athletic. They are all capable scorers, passers and defenders. I think that the fact that point guards are becoming so. freakishly gifted this will change the way teams play defensively. The NBA's future is very bright!!!
agreed. The new era point guards are gonna be awesome. Although i still think Chris Paul and Derron Williams will be near the top of top point guards. But my god Westbrook, Wall, and Rose are some of the best athletes i've seen period. real exciting players
umm don't put john wall on that list yet, not saying he won't be good, just don't mention him with them yet.
and wait about late 90s/early 2000's point guards, where they were big(literally)play makers like jason kidd, baron davis,gibert arenas, devin harris,kirk hinrich etc.....
and when i sat late 90's i mean 94-95 and after and early 2000's before 2005
i agree its athleticism some good players too are Jonny Flynn, and Rajon Rando there's gonna be loads of athletic point guards.
I think that the next era will start to combine the early "dazzling" PG with the new era "athletic" point guard and it will really set the standard for point guards of the future. I also feel that there is no room for PGs, like Iverson was, in todays team game. Thats why I hate it when people compare Branon Jennings to AI. He may have a similar game but if he trys to play like Iverson, he will have a bouncy career. What I mean by that is that he will bounce around the league looking for teams that will let him completely control the ball 100% of the time. Iverson was a great player for his time in the NBA but now we have new PGs that can do more than just score.
yeah pretty muhc this isnt so new..every decade there are a couple pg who are more physically advance then other..people thought there were gonna be more magics when he was playin gin the nba then there was suppossed to be more a.hardaways. also in the past there were guys who ened up being shooting guards but could have had a career as point guards but since they were such good scorers and big they were put at shooting guard. the only real difference these days is you dont have to be a sg just because you are bigger and strong like in the past when you pretty much had to be small and quick..its the same case with the new age pf being undersized..there were always good undersized pf but werent given a chance because just about every team wanted a tall pf. i can think of a couple pf that were undersized when i was growing up who, if they were playing in college these days would be draft pics...one that comes to mind first is lou roe
In basketball, its a well known fact that bigger is better. Conceptually, there isn't anything a 6 foot guy can do that a 6'4 guy can't do. For a long time in the history of basketball, however, 6'4 guys just didnt do those things, but now they are learning because at that hieght today, you are really an undersized 2.
Teams are getting these big explosive guys that would have been shooting guards 10 years ago because they want the ball in the hands of their best athlete. They want the guy with the ball on the break to be a threat at the rim.
The biggest perk that I dont see people ever talk about it that Whereas a guy like Chris Paul or TJ Ford has to foul on a fast break, when you have a Derrick Rose or a John Wall at the top of the key, that serves as an extra defense against fast breaks. Nobody wants a piece of either of those two guys around the rim, they are both more than capable of swatting a dunk or layup attempt and embarrasing some poor big guy.
exactly...thats why its not real new age
and those players are actually taller then rose westbrook.. and i cant name wall since he hasnt even played a college game yet and dominated highschool in his 5th year
I had mentioned this in a post a while back, but I think the introduction of the 3 point line in high school basketball in the mid to late 80's had a significant effect on point guards in the past 20 years. The older style point guards were definitely the "floor general" style point guards that ran an offense, could penetrate and hit a short J or layup or pass the ball off to a teammate. Later on due to that you saw the point guards who played with the 3 point line in high school that entered the NBA in the early to late 90's were significantly better 3 point shooters than their 80s predecessors, and then again the point guards who entered the NBA in the early 2000's that had been playing with the line their entire lives were even better. Steve Nash, Derek Fisher, Chauncey Billups, Jason Terry and other young point guards at that time were significantly better shooters coming in, and players already playing in the NBA who had been playing with the line for 8-10 years in the NBA had caught up and were shooting better from the outside. Although you can't say Rose, Westbrooke,Rondo and these new "athletic" point guards are good 3 point shooters, it is something they are expected to improve upon. The 3 point line, in my opinion, has raised the offensive expectations of point guards, and for every Rose, Rondo, or Westbrook, who isn't a good 3 point shooter, there is a D.J. Augistine, Mike Conley, Jameer Nelson, Aaron Brooks, or Mo Williams who can.