The blazers future success is in the hands of the big fella... I was curious as to what everyones predictions were, with reasons to back it up...
Personally, I hope he becomes the player everyone thought he would. He has every physical tool a center needs and is truly talented (he was dominant his freshman year with only his week hand...still makes my jaw drop)
Additionally his personality makes me root the guy, i can't even help it... its rare you see a physcially dominant player like him so humble... almost to a fault. You can see him second guess himself on the court, it just seems like he has a general lack of confidence.
anyways its a shame we have never got to see the big guy play at 100% yet, hope he turns the corner
greg oden will win defensive player of the year..yes u heard it here 1st....WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE BEST OF ODEN..THE GUY DOMINATED HIS FRESHMAN YEAR..AND HE WAS PLAYING WITH ONLY 1 HAND..LOL..INJURIES HAVE STUMPED HIS GROWTH..BUT I HEAR HE'S BEEN WORKING HARD THIS PAST SUMMER..so going into the season he'll be injury free..another thing about oden is he needs to stop thinking so much on the court and just play....last year he looked like he was forced to play when he didn't won't to..if he regains that love of the game again.. the league better watch out
lets just face it already oden is a bust, this was a guy compared to bill russell and he aint even as good as joe pryzbila
"lets just face it already oden is a bust, this was a guy compared to bill russell and he aint even as good as joe pryzbila"
u my friend are one of the most idiotic people ive ever seen... the guy plays his first season in 2 years, his rookie season mind you, where he basically averages a double double and u are calling him a bust...
oden will never be a russell, o'neal, or kareem, but if he can have a dikembe mutombo type career i think he can help the blazers tremendously and would not be considered a bust. i see averages of 15-16 ppg and 11-12 rbg with 3-4 bpg in the near future. the guy is very humble and a hard worker and if injuries dont plague him(which is what is limiting him now) he could be the top defensive center for 8-10 years.
trinajoe from a stat wise aproach and considering that he was shutting down a lot of people at the Olympic practices, those numbers would be similiar to Russell. Russell's actual legacy is helped by facing really good centers and winning many championships. One person does not win a championship, a team does. I think that Oden can put up those numbers and if we were to compare film, he would look very Russell like in his play. He needs to stay healthy and learn the game. That way he does not have to overthink. he can just do thing more natural.
I love how people are so quick to give up on #1 picks. Okay, how bout this. Why do you think the Blazers made it to the 4th seed this year? No it was not all Rudy Fernandez and Travis Outlaw, Oden contributed a lot to their great season. It's not his fault that he's been injured so often. Think, every time you get an injury, is it necessarily your fault? In Oden's case it hasn't been. The guy was seriously rusty, he's ready to break out.
I'm from Indianapolis, so I had the chance to watch Oden all throughout high school and quite a few games during AAU. He's the real deal. On top of his physical gifts, he's a winner and a team player that'll do whatever it takes to help his team win. There's not a selfish bone in his body, which is also one of his weaknesses. He's too damn unselfish.
The main problem with Oden though is he's sensitive. He hears and sees all, which is not always a good thing. He wants to please everyone and wants everyone to like him. We all know that's just not possible. He wants to live up to all the expectations and doesn't want to let anyone down. Since being the number one pick and going down with the knee injury, his confidence has DEFINITELY taken a hit. Reason being is because he sat out for one full season and listened to nothing but criticism. "Oden is a bust" and "Oden is Sam Bowie 2.0". Last season, his rookie season, he put pressure on himself to live up to the lofty expectations placed upon him and he just wasn't ready. His knee was ready, nor was he in great physical shape, but yet... He still received unfair criticism. He didn't even have a bad season. He listened to all of the criticism though and that's his problem.
However, this season will be different. I can vouch that he's been a beast in the gym this summer and he looks GOOD. It's probably the best I've seen him look (health wise) since high school. He's lost weight and has regained a lot of his explosiveness and quickness (especially laterally) back. He's a lot stronger lower body wise. He has a swagger... He's definitely regained a lot of confidence back and I just think he's matured. He's just playing now and not worrying about what anybody (other than his coaching staff/trainers) are saying. We'll see a MUCH improved Oden this season and I wouldn't be surprised if he averaged 12 points, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks this season.
Oden has worked hard this summer and looked much improved working out for Team USA. He is in great shape and was running the floor, knocking down baby hooks and not looking nearly as timid as he did last year. I hate the Sam Bowie comparisons, if he wasn't on the Blazers no one would be comparing him to Bowie. I think Oden will have an improved year probably around the 12 10 and 1.7 range, but I think he isn't going to be any past player, Robinson, Russell, Mutumbo etc...At 7' 275-280 and athletic, he has a different body type and a different game to go with it. He isn't going to be a 25 and 12 guy like Robinson, or a 20 20 guy like Russell, but he is a way better scorer than Mutumbo (Oden shot lefty the whole year at Ohio State because he hurt his dominant hand). Honestly, I don't know if Oden will live up to all his hype, but I don't think you can judge his future entirely on his rookie season either, I think he's just going to be Greg Oden, a big bodied defensive center with a few moves, probably pretty good for a while(providing he stays healthy) probably not one of the greats of all-time, but a 12,000 point scorer one or two time all-star type guy.
I think Oden has all the quickness you'll ever need in a big man in terms of foot speed, he just has to be much more decisive in his moves. I've seen Oden get his shot blocked way too many times for a player with his size and strength. He is a beast when he gets position deep, which happens a good deal of the time. Remember the Florida v. Ohio State national championship? He was a beast that game, he kept sealing Noah and Horford underneath the basket, and when Conley Jr. saw him, he fed him with good passes and it helped him be a threat on offense. With Andre Miller, you have a pinpoint passer with vision that'll be able to see him get position and get him the ball. I think Oden will be a pretty effective threat on offense. He is already a beast on D, and all he has to do it contest more shots instead of trying to block any and everything and I think we have an above average/big time center.
on his conditioning. One second,he'd make a great play,and the next he'd be bent over gasping for air. He's a double double guarantee if he can stay in shape and healthy,and that's exactly what the Blazers need.
Oden will finish in the top 5 in blocks, with 15 points and 11 rebounds this year. His physical skills are unmatched still at the center position. He can still block shots above the square on the backboard. He still has extremely quick feet and a huge frame. He still has soft hands and a great work ethic. He's still 21. He can still be a monster in a league that really doesn't have a lot of depth at big men. If he learns how to stay healthy, hes a virtual lock for a double double. If he learns how to stay out of foul trouble he could average 3 blocks. If helearns how to use his lower half better, he could average 18+ points a game. These are all reasonable, so Oden has a chance to be an all star very very soon.
i think he has all the tools he doesnt have any huge weakness this guy is ready to explode big men take longer to develop and hes only got about half a season and no way hes defensive mvp but his defense will be good because last year he picked up a lot of fouls because Blake was a bad defender and would let his dfender go by and Oden wasnt defesivly schooled enough yet to defend a guard, but now Miller is a much better defender and he can focus on shutting down the opposing defgender, plus Oden
wont get as many double teams as last year because Miller will get a lot of attention.
like many i say give the guy time
hes young, hes a center and hes only played pretty much half a season and your labelling him a bust
i think in a few years he will break out and be a top center after a solid season under his belt
I got a negative too because I said it is possibly from a stat point wise and defense wise for Oden to have a Russell like career but the championship total that Russell got will never be duplicated ever again. No team can keep a strong core for that long to do it.
dude people will keep giving you negatives if you complain, i didnt give you any negatives at all but im sure people will get ticked off if you complain.
I think too many people are not realizing his offensive potential. At 20 years old, I'm sure even the greats had flawed offensive games. David Robinson, one of my favorite centers growing up, debuted in the league at 24. When analyzing big men early in their career, the most important thing that separates the greats from the average centers is the rare combination of size, athleticism, and a skill set that can be developed. The only great center who had an already developed skill set at oden's age had to be Kareem. He is not as raw offensively as many centers drafted lottery his age. We all know he has the size and athleticism (when healthy). Like most of the greats, the post moves will come. If he stays healthy, I predict he will be a 20 and 12 guy.
Like I said before and I'll say it again, let's give him a chance to grow... As much as I was disappointed with his underachieving performance last season, take note, he is still 21 and developing... Rome wasn't build in a day and with the Blazers having so many offensive weapons, Oden's scoring is not that needed for now... His rebounding and defense are important...VERY important... Do not write him off the chart yet... We haven't seen him at his peak... 21 and counting? That's a long time for him to prove himself... He's gonna be good... He's gonna shut all the naysayers down if he really works hard...
im not saying he cant be a good shot blocker and rebounder like russell, but i think all can agree that there will never be any body like bill russell ever in terms of greatness. and when i said he could have a mutombo type game i wasnt trying to say they have similar games. oden is obviously stronger and more athletic but my point was that he could be the defensive plug in the middle ala mutombo(see 2001 76ers). I think he will be a fantastic player. he could make multiple all star teams, in part due to the shortage of quality centers, but also because he can play. I am not giving up on him I just dont think he will ever be the 20ppg guy some may have thought he would be. but that doesnt mean he cant be an all star guy.
You never say why can't be a 20 ppg scorer. I actually think he will be. There is one other player in the
league with a comparable package of altheticism quickness size and speed and that's Dwight Howard. Oden got double teamed on his touch of his first NBA game, so other coaches are recogniZing he's a threat.
Even shaq said big men don't peak until they are 30. I think 10 years in the league and some coaching and there is no reason he can't hit 6-7 shots on isos in the post. Get fouled a few times. And put back up a few o boards.
ok a lot of people have been talking about the michael jordan speech and one thing he said was, when i cam no one wasn't looking for the next whoever, so stop looking for the next me, because with players like dwade, kobe, lebron they have the tools to be better than me and you may miss something great in the process.
i think that same thing, greg oden is the next no one,let him build his legacy, i really think this year confidence or not he will be better, we're forgetting last year was his first year playing after a year off, and injuries get to players head, but we also know the micro-fracture surgery takes players who get back to normal a year afterwards, so this year will actually be his healthy year, i'm predicting 15 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks, and the 2nd round of the playoffs
he won't ever be a shaq type of player but he can easily have a season where he puts up 20 and 10. let him be greg oden will be an all star center next year.
i agree with dwight there that was crazy you cant judge how hes gonna do by how Bowie did, they are whole different players and their games aren't similar. heck Bowie wasn't that bad. how many huge busts like him get double double averages any time in their career?
i think oden will be pretty good but to say hes gonna be great or real good because of what he did in hs and aau even one year of college isnt a good arguement of being sure what he will do in the nba.especially for a center since there arent many in college and barely any in highschool
Oden will be a beast and the sky is the limit. Like someone says the only other play that has a similiar athletic package and and game is Dwight Howard. Howard was decent his first year and also was helped by being on a bad team. He also did not come off a injury like Oden did. I say after his 3rd season, we can say what he may or may not do but now is still too early. Also he is playing with Andre Miller someone who can give him perfect lobs. Oden could easily put up10 to 12 points with no plays called for him so when he starts getting plays 20 pts and 10 plus rebound is not out of the question.