There has been a lot of talk lately on here as to whether Tracy McGrady or Vince Carter are Hall of Famers. What about Paul Pierce? I think yes.
18,600 points at 32 years old. a conservative estimate is 22,000 points for his career.
8 time all-star
never an NBA 1st teamer, but 1 time all-NBA 2nd team and 3 time all-NBA 3rd team
NBA Champion and Finals MVP
What do you guys think?
if he proves he can lead the celtics this year back to the finals, i see no reason why not to ya know?
O yea.....Pierce is a lock for the Hall of Fame. The only thing holding him back in the 1st place was not having a title, now he does so he's set.
I dont really see it because unless he wins another title, there are lot of players that deserve to be in that have not and the need to get in before he does.
He is going into the Hall of Fame for sure.
I say no, he won a champonship with another sure-fire HOFer, and another borderline HOFer, he was purely a scorer on a horrible team past age 30, and wasn't even an elite player at those times, i dont see it.
The Celtics weren't horrible all of Pierce's career..you guys have to remember with him and Antoine Walker were on that team they made it to the playoffs a decent number of times. They weren't special, but they were a playoff team. Maybe the horrible teams he was on for the 2 seasons before the Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett trades are the freshest on ya'll brains, but the Celtics weren't the best team in the early 2000's but they did make the playoffs most of those years and were a pretty competitive team.
I'm leaning towards yes. But I don't think a prime Piecre was bettter then either a prime TMac or Vince. But one thing Pierce has going over both of them is a title and being more consistent and healthy. So I say yes he's in.
There are a lot of Hall of Famers that aren't first ballot guys. Pierce may not be a first ballot HOFer, but I think his resume will get him in down the line.
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i agree i think he will be because of winning a title otherwise it would be pretty close between those three.
Easy first ballot HOFer... He was borderline HOFer and winning a championship put him in... Dude had an impressive career especially considering what happen in his rookie year....
He certainly deserves to be in the HOF at least over Carter at this point.
Paul Pierce: 8 all-star games, never a first team all NBA
Prime 5 years(2001-2003, 2006-2007): 25.0 PPG - 26.1 PPG,
5.9 RPG - 7.3 RPG, 3.1 APG - 4.7 APG,1 SPG -1.9 SPG
Career: 22.9 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 3.9 APG, 1.6 SPG, 44.3 FG%, 36.6 3-P%, 79.8 FT%
Vince Carter: 8 all-star games, never a first team all NBA
Prime 5 years (2000-2001, 2005-2007): 24.2 PPG - 27.6 PPG,
5.5 RPG - 6.0 RPG, 3.9 APG - 4.8 APG,1 SPG - 1.6 SPG
Career: 23.5 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 4.3 APG, 1.2 SPG, 44.7 FG%, 37.6 3P%, 79.6 FT%
Both came into the league at the same time, and both have had eerily similiar production but Pierce has that championship ring and NBA finals MVP award to his credit so I've got to give the edge to him. As you can see from their prime years as well, Pierce was just as impressive as VC in his prime he was just underrated around the league at the time.
Quote me. These players below will ALL be in the HOF:
Possible other HOF players. However possibly more production needed:
Who am I leaving out?
I feel like there are other definite HOFs and also some others in the discussion for being on the cusp.
In my opinion you can't put young guys like Chris Paul, Lebron, Wade, and Dwight Howard in the HOF quite yet. They are young and if they continue to produce like they have been, yes, they probably will be in the HOF. I think all of those guys would be in the possible HOF players. It would be really unfortunate, but injuries happen. You could have said after a couple years into Ralph Sampson's career, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill or Larry Johnson's career, or countless others that they were future HOFers, but they have had injuries cut their careers and productivity short. I think CP3, Lebron, Dwight Howard, and Wade need to play longer and accomplish more before you can say they are sure fire HOFers.
JoeWolf. I couldn't agree with you more.
They are on the list only because of their production so far, not for their possible faults in the future. I should have put them on the "more production needed" list.
As one of the Celtics all time leading scorers and he has a ring. He is in 4 sure. Has been underrated defensively his entire career. P has always played good D.