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Ricky Rubio Is A Punk A$$

I have no respect for Ricky Rubio at this point...The whole time he was making it seem like he wanted to come to the NBA this season, and that it was his contract situation that was preventing him from doing so, that's what he told Timberwolves GM, David Kahn...Then when his club and the Timberwolves finally reached an agreement, to have Rubio get out his contract, to join the NBA this season, this b!tch a$$ punk, said he wanted his rights to given to another team, so he can stay in Europe for two more seasons, to develop...This little idiot made poor David Kahn take 3 trips to Spain, for him to get out his contract, and when he finally does, Rubio changes up his d@mn mind...That's so messed up, why couldn't he just be up front, and say he wasn't ready to come to the NBA from the beginning...I don't know, I think he's going to pull another Fran Vasquez move, and not come to the NBA, well at least to the Wolves...He's being spiteful because he wants the Timberwolves to trade him, if he got drafted by the Knicks, who he wanted to play for, he would've never done this cr@p... The NBA needs to change the system with first rounders, in the next collecting bargeoning agreement, and not allow first round picks to go back overseas, only secound rounders should be able to do that...Like what the hell, if Rubio knew he was going to do this cr@p, why even enter the draft...If that's the case, he should've entered next year's draft with John Wall, he would've got more buzz..Either way Rubio is a punk..Trying to use as an excuse he's oly 18 and there are so much expectations for him, and he needs to mature...What the hell? Kobe was 17 when he was drafted straight out of high school, and got drafted by a big market in the LA Lakers, which made the pressure worse...Rubio on the other hand, is going to a small market, the Wolves already have a franchise player in Big Al, so what pressure is he talking about...I'm pretty sure, if he only averaged 7 points, but dropped 10 dimes his rookie year, that would've been considered a good rookie season, don't u think?


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"Kahn made several trips to

"Kahn made several trips to Spain to try to get Rubio’s previous team, DKV Joventut, to lower his $8 million buyout price, but couldn’t get it done."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-rubiobarcelona&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Where did you see that he could have come over cheap?

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Chill

Check www.hoopshype.com
They reached an agreeement Saturday, and Rubio is the one who turned it down Monday afternoon, because he wants to play 2 seasons for Regal Barcelona

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Kobe actually was drafted by charlotte

not the lakers

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dick move by rubio then.

dick move by rubio then.

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"this b!tch a$$ punk, said he wanted his rights to given to another team"

"He's being spiteful because he wants the Timberwolves to trade him, if he got drafted by the Knicks, who he wanted to play for, he would've never done this cr@p"

Prove it, or shut the f*ck up.

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Totally agree. He hasn't

Totally agree. He hasn't stopped whining since the prospect of him not going to NY or LA has come up. I feel bad for Minny wasting their pick on him, but I am looking forward to seeing Flynn not having to time share. I hope he has a great rookie year, and proves to Kahn he made a mistake in drafting Rubio first.

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Everyone

Everyone has seemed to have lost their common sense. First of all, it's the choice of the Wolves as far as who they draft. Everyone knew he was still under contract and had a massive buyout. Their GM has stated that if he has to wait for Rubio then he has to do so. Everyone that drafts a foreign born player takes the chance that the guy may not come over immediately. Vasquez hasn't came over. If I remember correctly Peja didn't come over immediately, Luis Scola has had his rights held for a few years by the Spurs and got traded, then of course a guy like Arvydas Sabonis came over way past his best years and more recently Tiago Splitter (the Spurs own his rights). That is always a part of the risk with taking guys that are already playing professionally and making millions of dollars. Would you come over if you are already playing in the pros, close to your hometown, making millions? He would literally have to pay to play. I would like to see the show of hands of people on here that are willing to pay their employers out of their own pocket. Now he gets a nice deal, playing for a high level team and loses no money out of his pocket.

By the same token, the Wolves didn't help their cause. They drafted point guards back to back. Their best two big men are power forwards and the team is a poor fit for Rubio because they have no shooters or athletes. Along with being probably the least promising team and one of the most poorly run organizations in the NBA. Anyone see how one of the greatest players in NBA history who could do everything was unable to steer that franchise in the right direction? The best he seemed to be able to do was just will that team to the playoffs year after year.

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exactly double dribble...i

exactly double dribble...i just listen to a interview by dan patrick interviewing david kahn in which kahn said they knew this could happen and they were expecting not to get rubio for another year maybe 2, thats why they drafted flynn as well as rubio. so no one can get mad at rubio along with the fact that hes only 18.kahn said this had alot more to do with his parents then it did with rubio and thats why kahn isnt angry with rubio..he also said peopel need to understand that hes still a 18 year old teenager who changes his mind. This isnt the first nor last time a euro has decided to stay overseas and i dont see people getting all bent out of shape over the past euros who have done the same thing

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we don't know all the

we don't know all the details. If Rubio wanted to develop in Spain another 2 years, then he should have admitted that after he was drafted so Kahn wasn't wasting his time flying around. But in the end, I assume Kahn had to figure this would happen since he drafted two pg's back to back.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4437300

now im pissed, you don't declare if your not ready in the first place, this isn't no game it's the NBA.

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He probably declared because

He probably declared because he knew this was a weak draft and he was flying high thanks to his performance in the Olympics as well as his young age. I honestly can't blame the dude for declaring this past year because it was probably the best business situation for him. Teams look out for their own best interest, why can't the players? Plus everyone knew there was a chance he wasn't gonna come over.

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Flynn

Is the better point guard and should have been taken before Rubio. He wants no part of going against Flynn in practice. He is scared that if Flynn takes the starting job, which he would people would say bust. I am not calling him a bust, but Flynn would win that starting job over Rubio. Kid is shook and he is a punk.

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I think the thing that is

I think the thing that is frustrating is that he put himself into a situation that is harder to get out of than the contract he was originally in. That's kind of a slap in the face to the Wolves whom he had been telling the buy out was the whole reason he couldn't come over. By signing this guaranteed two years in Spain, Khan has to feel a little insulted

The thing is the Wolves will continue to own his rights, so they will get him whenever he does decide to come over, and it will be at his rookie contract price... so who knows maybe they will get a bargain when he comes over more experienced?

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Lets get serious here.....

Ricky Rubio does not wanna play with the T-Wolves, never have, never will. Like I said on the other post when Khan went to spain, he wanted to hear news of a deal moving him to either LA or NY. It did not happen. He had a chance to go to Minny and didn't want it.

Now, Minny still can retain his rights and now play the waiting game. All they can hope for is this:

A team in 2010 wants Rubio (Sacramento maybe??) and gives up a 1st round pick

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I really don't blame Rubio

We all would love to play in the NBA but who is willing to pay 8mil out of pocket to play for a team that doesn't have the personal to best use your talents and for a city your not fond of? His camp said all along that he wanted to play for a big market and that if he didn't get drafted top 3 that he probably would stay in Europe. That is exactly what he did. Had he been drafted to a team in a city he liked he would have had more incentive to pay up but obviously that wasn't the case. That is Kahns' bad judgement. He was set to make roughly 20mil during the life of his rookie contract. Let's say it is an even 20mil. He would have to pay about 4 mil in taxes (collectively through the 4 years) which leaves him with 16mil. His agent takes his 20% from the original 20mil which takes out another 2mil. That leaves him at 14mil. Now the buy out is (lets say it was reduced to 5.5mil instead of the 8.3), that leaves him with 9.5mil. Now were ever he gets the loan from to pay that amount is also going to want interest. Out of 5.5mil loan, your looking at about a mil in interest for most banks(20%) So now that leaves him with 8.5 mil for a 4 year contract to play in a city he never really wanted to play in. Now everyone will say I'll play for a combined 8.5mil for 4 years to play anywhere. While true. Most would rather wait 2 more years for a guaranteed 20mil and also hope that he gets traded to a team he rather play for.

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I hate repeating myself

When has Rubio ever said that he didn't want to play for Minnesota? How can you guys just make up stuff about the kid and then use it to pass judgement on him?

Find me a quote where Rubio says he didn't want to play in Minny, or seriously, just shut up.

Rubio said. "The Minnesota Timberwolves continue to be my first option and I wish to play with them in the near future."

"I also agreed with Ricky's position that two more years of competition in Spain and the Euroleague will only aid his development and that he will be much more ready for the NBA when he joins us," Kahn said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4437300

I feel like I've use this argument at least 10 times in the past and I NEVER get an answer.

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If he wanted to play for

If he wanted to play for Minny...he would have took the deal they offered him.

Minny has the deal ready for him to come to minny- he declined.

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Nope

You are drawing a false conclusion. Why just assume Rubio is lying?

Because he hasn't come to the NBA yet, doesn't mean he is protesting against Minnesota.

"Oh he is staying home for two more years so he must want a trade!" You guys realize this arguement doesn't make any sense, right? He is locked in for two more years. That means that even if he does get traded he is still playing in Spain for two more years.

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Doen't prove he doesn't want

Doen't prove he doesn't want to play for Minnesota. Just proves he doesn't want to pay at least 5mil to play for Minnesota.

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He Declined the offer from

He Declined the offer from Minny.....he wanted to remain in Spain.

Why put your name in a draft when you know see teams you did not wanna play for? He said he did not wanna play in Memphis (so they passed on him), he wanted to go to OKC, Sac but he declined working out for many teams in the top 10 because he wanted to go to a big market

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In my opinion, Rubio is a

In my opinion, Rubio is a very promising young PG with alot of potential, but that is besides the point. I really don't even think Rubio cares about the money or wherever the hell he plays, he want's to come to the NBA, but his buyout is too too large, he would not make any money for year's. Waiting for 2 years suck's for us, becuase it does delay his development to the NBA game, it also means he is coming to the NBA at 21 rather than 19 which sucks for him, the NBA is where it is at, and until he come's here he won't be global or get respect, you have to beat the best to be the best, and the NBA is the best league in the world.

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Your argument is going nowhere. "Why put your name in a draft when you know see teams you did not wanna play for?" Again, when did he say he didn't want to play for Minnesota? Yes he didn't want to play in Memphis, but he wasn't the only one. Hasheem Thabeet, James Harden, Stephen Curry, and quite a few others have all expressed disinterest in playing for one team or another.

Reread the last few posts and maybe throw some new ideas in your next post.

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Say the same people who have been criticizing him all year due to his weight and shooting ability. These same people are now hating on him for not coming to the NBA this season.

People just want to hate on him for the sake of hating on him.

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Im not nor ever been hating

Im not nor ever been hating on him, he could have came to Minnesota this year, but that would not be the best financial choice, of course we wanna see him here this year, but he is in a financial hole.

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He never said he didnt wanna

He never said he didnt wanna play in Minny but he never showed he was hyped to go to Minny.

He said " the right things" to keep his NBA prospects & dreams strong by making people believe he wanted to go to MInny when he wanted a deal.

I just dont believe he ever wanted to play in Minny....I think he was expected OKC or Sac to draft him and when it fell through he was looking to stay overseas until a deal was done.

Remember there were at least 3-5 rumors with him looking to stay overseas

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idea

i was reading eric smith's blog and he had a really good idea about foreign players entering the draft.. I agree with his idea because it makes everyone coming in equals and letting the teams run the show.. not the players. The link to the blog is http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/eric_smith_blog.html

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QHaynes I'm going to ask you a question. I'm not making fun of you or anything, it is all for arguments sake...

Are you gay?

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He said " the right things"

He said " the right things" to keep his NBA prospects & dreams strong by making people believe he wanted to go to MInny when he wanted a deal.

I believe that is 100% false.

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Why would you ask me that

Why would you ask me that question?

Are you Gay? Now you just trying to be a &$#%#&@!, dont try it with me &$#%#&@!.

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How is that false?

How is that false?

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QHaynes

It shouldn't be a difficult question to answer.

Are you gay? Yes or no?

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How is that true?

How is that true?

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No, I'm not gay...why would

No, I'm not gay...why would you think that?

He never wanted to throw Minny under the bus. He said "the right things" to make people excited for his arrival to the NBA but he did not wanna go to Minny IMO

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players & coaches

everyone is quoting what rubio and kahn have said proving and not proving that rubio hasnt said he doesnt like minny or that kahn believes rubio just wants to stay home and that he is not mad at ricky for not signing..... Thats all bull crap, players and coaches have to say these things to keep respect and to look proffesional and to keep their jobs.. Do you really think every coach/gm/player says exactly what they think? Would you rather have rubio say he hates minny cause they have a &$#%#&@! team and then kahn calls out rubio and says he's a lil &$#%#&@!?

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Well, I don't think he

Well, I don't think he didn't want to go to Minnesota, but I do think there are team's he would rather go to, such as Sac.

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Like Mikenike said..

Dropping 5 to 8 mil is not an easy thing to do for anyone. Its a better public relations move to say I'm not quit ready for the NBA and I rather stay in Europe to better my game than to say to say I don't want to pay that much money to play for the Wolves. But I love Rubios' game. I think he is a big time prospect and can create plays for his teammates that very few have shown to do at that age.

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Thank you

Now, using the QHaynes logic, I would come to the conclusion that you ARE in fact gay.

Because you said what somebody who was gay but didn't want others to know about it would say.

Rubio said he wanted to play in Minnesota. = Rubio doesn't want to play in Minnesota.

QHaynes says he isn't gay. = QHaynes secretly is gay.

That is the logic you are using to defend your argument. Do you see how it doesn't work?

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so how am i False Mike? You

so how am i False Mike? You said it....tell me how im wrong.

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so how am i False Mike? You

so how am i False Mike? You said it....tell me how im wrong.

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but as a worker for the nba, especially a rookie, you dont get to choose where u wanna work... its like any other job in the world, when u first get on you go where you are told, and once you work hard enough and gain respect you then choose where u wanna work..

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QHaynes

I just did tell you how you were false.

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Cause you said you think he

Cause you said you think he doesn't want to play for Minnesota, I said he doesn't mind playing there but would RATHER some other places.

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Money....i like the way you

Money....i like the way you use logic but there are wrong factors in your statement. Help me out here.

He Says he wants to go to Minny

He looks to go get a lower buyout from DKV when he has a chance to go to the Knicks

In a prior interview- He stated a displeasure in Minny as saying "Minny is too cold"

David Khan goes to Spain and reaches a deal to bring Rubio over....RUBIO DECLINES

Rubio stays in Spain.

SO what are you not getting? He had a chance to go to Minny but DECLINES....what does that mean?

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It means going to Minny

It means going to Minny would make him go broke thats what it means.

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But he has 2 years to pay

But he has 2 years to pay the Buyout....so I find that BS.

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dmno21. Rubio situation is different

If college athletes had to pay their colleges 5 million plus dollars to play for an NBA team after their Freshman year as appose to not having to pay their college anything if they leave after their Junior, how many you think would rather stay in school for 2 more years?

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but maybe they should plan ahead like if they think they are gonna go in the draft in 2 years, dont get a 5 year deal. Usually the players good enough to make it know they are good and have been planning on a basketball career and the NBA draft isnt just a quick decision.. Atleast if your a euro player and you dont get drafted or dont make the team you can go back home and sign on while college athletes that dont make the cut have nothing..

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Maybe

Maybe it means what he said it means.

First of all I disagree when he was only looking for a buy-out when he had a chance to go to New York. I would like to see a link or some kind of proof.

Now, he is getting his 5.3 million dollar buy-out completly paid off, he gets a chance for more playing time and a chance to develop his weaknesses into strengths. He gets to stay home without having to worry about his NBA status. He has a team now and he has said that he is excited to play in Minnesota in two years when he gets the chance.

The buy-out was still a factor, he would still have to pay for it out of his own pocket if he came to the NBA. He said he wouldn't come over if he wasn't a top 3 pick anyway.

It all makes perfect sense to me.

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All of them, or the majority

All of them, or the majority of them

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rubio..

if he wanted to stay home and play in europe and develop all his skills without the nba stress, than why the hell would he put his name in the draft?

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