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Remember?

Remember when the NBA tried to change the game ball a couple years ago? If so do you think they should have kept it? Or do you think they shoud keep the same one as now? Or do you think they should change it again to a different type/color? any thoughts?


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Keep it plain and simple

Keep it plain and simple, the ball is fine the way it is. Why change it?

Everyone that plays basketball has used that ball when they play. It is going to be such a pain just trying to alter the ball.

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I thought about making this

I thought about making this a post yesterday........ I remember when Shaq said, "This is the dumbest thing some basketball expert has ever come up with."

Dhamp...the most intelligent basketball thinker in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

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Yea they were saying the

Yea they were saying the ball felt like a basketball that you get at Toys-R-Us. And it was sticking to their hands during games because of the sweat from their hands. That was going to be a huge pain to deal with if they didnt change the ball.

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But didn't the scoring from

But didn't the scoring from teams and individual scoring go up that year? haha

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David Stern is one of the

David Stern is one of the best commissioners in sports, but that was a dumb move. If I remember right, he didn't even ask or poll the players on how they'd feel about the change. He made the right decision changing it back.

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you know, I think the

you know, I think the composite balls they tried to use were actually really good balls. I think it was just a matter of what the players were used to. If they had been using it for 3-4 seasons, then they probably wouldn't want to change back.

It had way more grip wich allowed for better control, but it just felt different and had a somewhat different reaction on bounce passes, bank shots, or how it bounced off the rim.

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IDK... Not that my opinion matters, but I hated that ball. It just felt cheap. Nothing beats a leather ball.

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I only used it once for a

I only used it once for a couple hours, and it does feel cheap. But I just felt like it had good control and stuck to your hand more. It was better for pulling up on a dime for a jumper because it wouldn't slip in your hands. But I'll take an nba players opinion over mine since I only used it for a little while. I believe it is the ball they use in international competitions though.

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The ball doesn't feel cheap

The ball doesn't feel cheap at all IMO, it feels cheap to you everyone at first because the material is different, it was a superior ball, more grip, better feel, more seems, better color, everything was better, i still have mine i bought it in the NBA store for a buck and i regret ever playing with it, its a collectible now.

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leave it alone

Leave it alone

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Idk

What do you guys think of David Stern

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I despise Stern.

I despise Stern.

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why despire stern?

why despire stern?

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He wrote a letter to the

He wrote a letter to the refs in 2002 to extend the King's and Lakers series when it was 3-2 Kings, he fiixed that, fixed the lottery so Ewing could end up a Knick...... im sure that wasn't the only time, knew about the ref, scandal and never said nothing, he's scum

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.....How do you know that?

.....How do you know that?

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I read into stuff........

I read into stuff........

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Come on man....I thought you

Come on man....I thought you had proof.

Things happen man.....He does not fix stuff were all human

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i know people , you don't

i know people , you don't think he fixes stuff? don't be silly. If it can put money in his pocket and help advertise his league hell do it, its a fact.

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I hate Stern too, Cheap

I hate Stern too, Cheap Shot Bob f*cked over my Suns, that was so stupid to suspend Amare and Diaw. Duncan left the bench earlier in that game and he wasn't suspended. Stern is a f*cking punk.

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OK Here's why I KNOW he did

OK Here's why I KNOW he did not fix anything....

Spurs were this decade's dynasty

Spurs vs Pistons

Pistons won a title

Shaq to Miami, D-How to Orlando

Knicks have been bad for years

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Spurs were this decade's

Spurs were this decade's dynasty, there were 2 dynasties lets keep it real , L.A. had a 3-peat, Stern wanted to advertise Kobe as the new Jordan

Spurs vs Pistons. WOW come on

Pistons won a title.1 in a decade WOW

Shaq to Miami,Whats he gonna tell L.A. they cant trade him? D-How to Orlando, dont know what u mean

Knicks have been bad for years, He tried once we just suck

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From 1999 to 2009- 4 titles

From 1999 to 2009- 4 titles for the Spurs. 3 for LA....Spurs win.

The point is, you cannot blame someone for what happens. I mean, in the NBA you see different things happen. I mean, the Suns thing. If it were the other way around...you would say Oh, they should get suspended"

Overall Stern has done a amazing job and he has made the NBA better since his arrival in the 80's

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From 1999 to 2009- 4 titles

From 1999 to 2009- 4 titles for the Spurs. 3 for LA....Spurs win.

The point is, you cannot blame someone for what happens. I mean, in the NBA you see different things happen. I mean, the Suns thing. If it were the other way around...you would say Oh, they should get suspended"

Overall Stern has done a amazing job and he has made the NBA better since his arrival in the 80's

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So you are saying what he

So you are saying what he did to Suns was fair QHaynes? We both know that is bs.

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Listen...he did that because

Listen...he did that because of the Ron Artest thing. The rule is you leave the bench, you get suspended

To I agree with it? No. But looking at the past...it was the best situation.

What if Horry threw a punch at a Suns player? I mean, blackeye for a league many people dont watch because of it's "thuggish" past

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Overall Stern has done a

Overall Stern has done a amazing job and he has made the NBA better since his arrival in the 80's

Yea he's been decent, but don't you think he would do everything in his power to make sure thing's go good for him?Im stating cold hard fact'sif you don't believe me start opening your eyes up to reality, everyone care's about money, Stern wanted to see Kobe be great, sooo he made sure he wins, in the Kings series, as well as Shaq, Watch the games if you don't believe me .....the are truely SAD for Sac.

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Then why wasn't Duncan

Then why wasn't Duncan suspended? He left the bench earlier in the game. So that throws out your rule, that is just Stern being an a$$.

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I saw the Sac-LA series...I

I saw the Sac-LA series...I sae Peja miss everything. I saw the bench play small. I saw Divac flop and allow Shaq to score when he fell.

I hear you Yup, but that was not a issue when the game stop. The game did not stop when Duncan left the bench. When Stoudemire and Diaw got off the bench...it was during a issue

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Actually you know what Q ,

Actually you know what Q , You said then why did Dwight end up going to ORL. ? Wanna know why? here's why SHAQ, didn't Shaq go to ORL a while back?

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HAHAHAHAHA seriously

HAHAHAHAHA

seriously .....seriously man all i saw was elbow elbow elbow

Remember when Bibby hit Kobe's elbow with his chin in crunch time? HA

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As long as you hear me, it's good.

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Yea...But that's Sac

Yea...But that's Sac fault.

I remember watch Peja shoot...he couldn't hit the hoop if it was the size of the ocean.

From that moment on...I thought he was overrated

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Q hears people he just

Q hears people he just doesn't Listen.

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It's Sac's fault they were

It's Sac's fault they were robbed and Fnucked?

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No, I understand people I

No, I understand people I just have different opinions.

I agree that rule is foolish but Stern fixing things is something I cannot agree with

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ok man then i guess i can't

ok man then i guess i can't do anything more here, just open up your eyes to reality.

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....Your right Mike If Stern

....Your right Mike If Stern pulling strings

Why did Cleveland not get into the Finals last year?

Why didn't New Orleans get into the Finals the year before?

You look too deep into things and sometimes you make up stuff that's not there...Yea everyone loves money but then some teams will never be good.

Stern is not picking years to fix the NBA.....don't be "that guy"

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Why did Cleveland not get

Why did Cleveland not get into the Finals last year?

Why didn't New Orleans get into the Finals the year before?

Didn't the F.B.I. get involved with the Donaghy scandal last time they were fixing games? You thing Stern wants anythingto do with the F.B.I. ? HELL NO

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So...he's gonna fix games

So...he's gonna fix games next year you think?

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I agree

Hey, I enjoy conspiracy theories as much as the next guy, but clearly QHaynes is right.

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OK then, believe

OK then, believe Q
everything falls into place the way I look at things

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But there are cracks to your

But there are cracks to your statement IMO

No Offense but looking back at History....he could not have fixed things

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Mmmm

I don't have to believe either one of you. You guys don't know anything about the situation. It's all speculation.

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It is speculation 100% your

It is speculation 100% your right but do u really believe none if it is true at all
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I think to say he's fixing

I think to say he's fixing stuff is wrong and unfair to say.

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There is tons of

There is tons of speculation, do you really wanna believe all of it is make-believe? There are bunches of cases where Stern has been caught in the act.

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When? Tell me one where

When? Tell me one where Stern has been caught telling guys to fix stuff?

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Ref's have admitted
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mikenike

Nowhere in that article does anybody say Stern was responsible for fixing games...

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Exactly....

Exactly....

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