their only chance i think is if Lebron waits to resign and they can snag a free agent cheaply like Carlos Boozer.
uh..no. I said he has a chance to go to NY in my opinion. I see him going to NY and if he does not, i would say" Sorry Guys!" no, i will move on.
And if LBJ goes to NY....u say your wrong.
ok i will.
This is entertaining..
sorry you have to pay 5$! thats the cost for this show.
dont be too hard on qhaynes because for one hes a knick fan( i think) and 2 hes saying there is a chance which there is. i think a dark hoarse, maybe not for lebron, but for another star is miami..they will have cap room even after signing wade and they dont have alot of bad contracts plus they have be easy as well as jermaine oneal (if hes healthy he is pretty a nice load) and i think theres a good chance they get boozer next year...so dont sleep on them..a even darker hoarse is new jersey. they have a nice young core a future all star in lopez and a all star in devin harris( ya'll say what you want but he can give you 30 and 10-15 assist on any given night hes verrrrrrry underrated with fans on here)
i think Miami might throw a lot of money at Beasley though and Chalmers will need to be resigned too.
I agree Devin Harris is WAY underrated on this site... Someone was trying to tell me that Nate Robinson. Sorry, but I just don't think that's accurate.
I think of those three teams (Cleve, NY, NJ) Brook Lopez is the only legit Big for the 10-11 season, and you're not going to win a championship without a legit big... David Lee is a legit rebounder, but he's not exactly an interior presence on defense. Cleveland has Shaq for next season, but anything beyond that is pretty uncertain.
So you've got Brook and Devin, plus the Jay-Z factor... and that gives NJ a slim chance along with NY... MIA also has a slim chance... Still all signs point to Cleveland.
What if LeBron wins a championship in Cleve... Shaq and Z retire, and then, feeling like he's brought a title to his home state, but that he's lost his big men, he leaves?! that'd be great, IMO.
If Lebron wins a championship in 2010 hes not leaving...even if his whole team retires..
How would that look...?
Week 1: Win championship
Week 2: Celebrate Parade
Week 3: Shaq & Z retire
Week 4: Sign with the Knicks?
James has said he wants to bring a championship to Cleveland. If they win a championship this year I think he is gone, probably to NY or NJ or possibly the Clippers. It's not all about salary. He can make ridiculous money in endorsements in a bigger market and attract higher profile FAs. James could play for 5 million in New York and make 40 million in endorsements. There is no reason for him to want a max deal. He could easily double the amount of money he would get from a max deal just from endorsement money. He should take less money and let his GM build the best possible team around him. It makes no sense for him to want max money to play in NY. Nobody needs 60 million to live on for one year. He is going to get paid anyways. If he goes to a bigger market he can make more money total. Cleveland is his home but if he just stays there because of that and they can never win a championship all his fans will just be pissed at him. He just needs to make a basketball decision and leave his hometown feelings out of it.
if hes a true baller hell want a repeat. when youve just won a title you shouldnt be thinking time to leave when your the new hero and you have saved the sports world in Cleveland and leave i can garuntee youll be bood every time you come there.
James Posey did it twice and Ariza just did it. They were probably thinking more like time to get paid. I realize none of them have the star status LeBron does. If he brings a championship to Cleveland he will have done what he has promised, you can't be pissed at him for wanted to expand.
Im too lazy to look at all the comments, but i did see that magikknick is a Wade fan. Surprising.
Im too lazy to look at all the comments, but i did see that magikknick is a Wade fan. Surprising.
theill want him to repeat no sports fan is satisfied with one title. and i would be if he left for a ad team just because of money.
He can still repeat with a different team. How can you be mad at him? He said he would get you a title and he did. Two of their key players, if they did win a title next year, would be old and on their last legs (Shaq and Big Z) and they would probably retire or leave. You couldn't sign them back, they would have to take ridiculous pay cuts. LeBron can't possibly think Cleveland can contend for years to come with those 2 gone and Hickson playing center. He is a player and he wants to win, if he thinks he can win somewhere else you can boo him 2 times a year when he comes back to Quicken Loans Arena, but that won't stop him from leaving. He needs a young team to run with and he just doesn't have that right now. He is not just going to be looking at the immediate future, or else he would have signed an extension already. He is looking at the long term and NY is a good fit long term. Dantoni and Walsh are doing a great job cleaning up Isaiah's mess and they actually have young talent there. The addition of LeBron does not immediately make them a contender as their roster stands right now but I'm not sure he is expecting to jump to a contender immediately. He is looking to build a team, much like he did in Cleveland. He has maxed out with Cleveland. They are just putting a band-aid on the situation and avoiding dealing with it until LeBron makes a decision. NY is looking toward the future. If LeBron goes to NY he can bring them a championship in 3 years.
you really think the Knicks can win a title?
you really think the Knicks can win a title?
Absolutely. LeBron can will his team to win. Dantoni wont let the Knicks stand around and watch LeBron like Mike Brown does.
who would be his number one sidekick?
If he signed with them in 2010? Probably Wilson Chandler. But I'm sure Walsh would sign a second tier FA, maybe Johnson would like a return to Dantoni's system, or someone like Ginobili would really thrive in it, although I can't see him leaving SA. His sidekick is not on that team as of now, unless someone makes a huge jump in production from last year.
now your going too far. first of all they probably wouldnt have the money. second Ginoble loves his role and wouldnt leave,and Johnson is not leaving either.
Even someone like Ray Allen is still a deadly shooter and a good option. I see 2011 as the year when they seriously contend with Curry and Jeffries' contracts gone they will have money to sign a good number 2 option
I just said Ginobili probably won't leave SA. Johnson cannot contend with that Hawks team, why stay on it?
i agree Allan would be nice but why would Lebron leave when he could be competing with the Cavs instead of waiting?
He has been waiting 7 years, what is one more year? He can't compete with that team forever. They are just signing filler players right now to contend immediately, they have almost no young talent on their roster.
the Knicks dont have much talent at all either (even less).
the Knicks dont have much talent at all. David Lees okay but their bench is awful and if Nate leaves they really dont have much.
They have young talent. Chandler, Gallinari, Douglas, possibly Sessions as well. I would love to see what LeBron could do with Darko. Not to mention if Nate and/ or Lee resigned. Cleveland has Hickson and Gibson and they never play them enough minutes. No question that the Cavs are a more talented team right now. But given another year to mature and grow and get good playing time the Knicks can be a quality team with the addition of LeBron.
Ckowalski.......STOP IT!!!!! DID U JUST MENTION DARKO...... NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
i'm sorry but ur list of young talent is pretty bad... chandler = matt barnes... gallinari = (young turkoglu)... douglas = (never played a game in the league ur reaching!!!)
i think it is more realistic that lebron plays in new jersey who have real young talent.... b. lopez, d. harris, c. lee and Yi
Are you serious you obviously haven't seen him play much.
Lol...first of all, what are these endorsements opps that LBJ has in NY? someone please tell me that...Everyone keeps talking about all these endorsements he can get in NY, but the majority of any player's endorsement money (especially from the U.S.) comes from his shoe company (ie Nike, Addidas, Reebok) While he might be able to get MORE endorsement deals, the AMOUNT, will not increase that significantly. The majority of his endorsements are locked in through the rest of his shoe deal.
One thing I will give you is that he'd probably sell more jerseys being in a bigger market, but realistically, how high of a % are royalties anyway?
I don't think that LBJ could make more going to NY than staying in Cleveland, esp if the cap goes down as mny are predicting. The amount that cleve will be able to offer is WAY higher than what he can get in NY... see the article above posted by Qhaynes (I believe)
Deshawn, you're on point about NY not having a lot of talent, but watch out with the Danilo~Turk comparison, just as kowalski reached on Douglas, you're doing the same with Danilo. Give the guy time... I'm not saying he won't be good, but I'd be a little more cautious on that front. It's been a whiles ince we've had a successful European big...
I'd like to see LBJ win and then bounce, but I don't think he'd necessarily make more money... I think he'd do it to try and be in the best position to win. He knows that's how legends are made.
If you read my first post I said the 3 places I could see him going to are NY, NJ or the Clippers if he left. I did not say Douglas was the second coming of Jesus, I said he was a young and talented guy that given time to develop in Dantoni's system could become a good piece. Nor did I say I thought Darko was an amazing player, all I said is I would love to see what LeBron could do with him. I also think NJ will struggle without Carter this year, much like NY has struggled without a veteran leader. Young talent can only get you so far.
I agree that he could make more money playing basketball in Cleveland, but I think the total amount of money he could make would increase in a bigger market like NY or NJ or LA. I can't predict the monetary value of his endorsements that he would recieve, but I would think if he went to NY, NJ, or LA his face would be plastered on damn near every street corner.
So basically, you have no idea whether or not he'd make more in total in a bigger market... just so we're clear on that.
I think the total amount of money he could make would increase in a bigger market like NY or NJ or LA.
but do u really have any real reason to believe that? cause I think that's pretty far off the truth...
xbadgerhustler i think the comparison is a fair one between gallinari and a young turkoglu... dont forget turkoglu had moments when he was with sac. coming off the bench and more importantly is a pretty solid player in the league now... so i've left room for gallinari to grow into a respectable player and have not called him a bust or star but i think he will be a solid player when its all said and done...
fair enough deshawn... i'd have been okay with the comparison before this year when Turk really elevated his game... I think ppl are a little unreasonable with how they see Danilo, but that's just my opinion.
i hear that ckowalski but my point was that ur calling guys like gallinari and douglas solid young talents but the truth is no one know what ability douglas has b/c HE HAS NEVER PLAYED A GAME IN THE NBA!! and as for gallinari the guy has played in only a hand full of games so give it a season before u count these guys as solid young pieces.. and i know what u said about darko but even lebron can't turn cow manure in to gold..
At the risk of starting a he said, she said argument, is there any reason not to believe that? I think if he wants to make real money he needs to leave Cleveland. Small market teams like the Spurs still get minimal love even though they compete year in and year out. I think at this point basketball has become more about endorsements than anything else. I live in Austin, Texas and I have never once seen an ad with any of the Spurs players in it, except when Sports Illustrated runs their ads for championship stuff for 2 weeks after the Spurs won their championships. I've seen more Eva Longoria ads than Tony Parker ads. If James wants to be a bigger figure in the endorsement industry he needs to leave Cleveland, and I think that's a fact. Bigger cities are just more marketable. He has revived basketball in Cleveland but I just can't see him getting any love their from bigger corporations. A lot of corporations are based in bigger markets also and I think that plays a factor. Generally when you recieve more exposure you recieve more endorsements which equals more money. I know that sounds like an oxymoron since James is probably one of the most well known basketball players there is, but I just can't see him marketing himself to his maximum ability and gaining maximum exposure in a small market. I think if he played for NY he would be in the news every day. There is just a lot of pressure to play for the Knicks and win for the Knicks, he would be all over the place.
I get what you're saying. I'm basing it off the talent they had when they were drafted. I know Douglas hasn't played a game, but he was talented coming out of college and I don't have a reason to believe he is not talented as of now. Will his talent translate to the NBA? That remains to be seen.
I dont why, but there's 2 posts so yeah. Otherwise Wade is my favorite! :
Yea, I guess I just disagree... I don't think that LBJ could be the headline more than he already is, and I think that over the life of the contract, he'd probably lose like ~20-30 million or something like that signing in NY over Cleve...
lol... the endorsement industry... you don't think that LBJ gets his pick of which endorsements he wants to do already? I just can't really see how him being in a different city is really going to make that much of a difference. His endorsements are most likely set as of right now, IMO, and I still believe his biggest endorser is his shoe deal with Nike, and that contract is locked in... the real opps are in China, etc... and those opps are there regardless of whether he plays in NY or in Cleve..... I guess we just disagree. That's what he has a manager for.
Why wouldn't he sign an extension he could get more money from the Cavs now before the cap went down again right.
If he signed an extension maybe they get Ariza or Artest. Those guys know he's leaning to leaving.
NBA Execs and Analysts keep saying he will stay but its just speculation.
They probly won't' win a title this year Boston is too strong, sooner or later losing in the playoffs will get to him.
By the end of the year you'll see Knicks young guys playing better than the Cavs.
How much have Gibson, Varejao, Mo Williams, West improved?
Shaq will leave end of the year and Big Z might retire.
Don't bank on Anthony Parker and his career 10 ppg avg to help that much.
Or maybe he wants to play for Mike Brown over Mike D'Antoni
Didn't he say he wants to be a billionaire if he wants to do that most likely needs to and wants to play in front of the biggest stage which is in NY.
how much will the knicks players improve...you have to remeber that all this scoring is a product of d'antonios offense more then anything. the knicks young talent can be alright but zero has the ability to be stars in my opnion which is why they need to not only bring in one superstar but 2. people keep overrating the talent that are with the knicks( mostly fans) but they forget how bad the knicks were last year....and mean BAD they better hope and pray they get lebron even though he has a better chance to win in clevland then n.y..ckowalski mentioned that mike brown will just stand there and let bron do what he wants while d'antoni wont...well you also failed to mention that d'antoni wont require the team to play any defense and just have them score alot which hes shown even with alot of talent (phx) he as well as his style cant win a title