The toughest position to draft is C. It's just so rare to find a seven footer(or 6'10/11) guy that can play effectively in the league. So when a guy like Greg Oden comes around you have no choice but to take him(even with a guy like Durant available). Hasheem Thabeet was the 2nd pick in this draft basically cuz he's 7'3, can block shots, and has decent speed(for his size). If he was 6'8 with the skills he has he wouldn't even be considered a draft prospect. This year was a bad draft for C's. Only 3 were drafted and the first round picks(Thabeet and Mullens) are some of the biggest question marks. I'm looking ahead a bit but this is what I think of some of the Centers available for the 2010 draft:
Solomon Alabi 7'1 Florida St.: An intriguing prospect with tons of potential. His freshmen year numbers were better than Thabeet's when he was a freshmen. He still has to develop his offensive skills but he's 7'1 and a good shot blocker and will be considered one of the top prospects in next year's draft. Will be a late lottery selection next year.
A.J. Ogilvy 6'11 Vanderbilt: Probably one of, if not the best offensive center in the country. Would've been a prospect this year only if Vandy wasn't so mediocre. This Aussie player is a decent rebounder and one of the most underrated prospects IMO. If Vandy goes dancing and he has a good year he could a mid-late first rounder.
Arinze Onuaku 6'10 Syracuse: Along with Andy Rautins needs to step up big time in order for Syracuse to be a contender in the Big East next year. His numbers went down from the 07-08 season and was at times inconsistent this past year so he needs to have a good, consistent year to be worth a second round pick.
Dexter Pittman 6'10 Texas: The Longhorns will be one of the top teams in the country this season and that helps Pittman get exposure. He's lost a lot of weight and his conditioning has gotten better since his freshman year. I still think he should stick around for his senior season but if he leaves this year and has a good year he should be a late first rounder/early second round.
Jerome Jordan 7'0 Tulsa: I have watched this guy play in person since his freshmen year and he has shown great improvement. The Patrick O'Bryant comparisions are inevitable but this guy is developing post moves and he's a solid defender. Tulsa is expected to dethrone Memphis in C-USA and Jordan should get exposure because of this. If Tulsa goes to the Big Dance and Jordan has an impressive year look for him in the mid-late first round
Cole Aldrich 6'10 Kansas: Who would've known the guy that stepped into help UK defend Hansbrough and beat UNC in the 2008 final four would be a lottery prospect and the best C prospect in the 2010 draft. Cole Aldrich is far from being the next NBA all-star center but he's one of the top defenders in the country and a double-double machine. Kansas is considered by many to be the best team in the country and Aldrich's stock will only get better because of this. Top 5-10 pick in 2010 draft.
Top C prospects in order:
1. Cole Aldrich
2. Jerome Jordan
3. Solomon Alabi
4. A.J. Ogilvy
5. Dexter Pittman
6. Arinze Onuaku
I don't know of any international C prospect that can be a top 40 pick and we'll have to wait and see the freshman class of prospects(led by Renardo Sidney and DeMarcus Cousins). So what do you guys think and do you know of anybody else worthy of mentioning.
jarvais varnado hes gunna become the ncaas all time leader in blks if he stays healthy this year and sydney and cousins are more pfs in the nba
Jarvis Varnardo is the best shot blocker I've ever seen. He has mastered that skill and will have a long NBA career because of it. But with his body type(bout 210-220 pounds) I didn't consider him a center prospect more of a PF.
i agree that he is an amazing shot blocker, but how come he averages more blocks than thabeet (which is basically thabeets main weapon) and is n the 2nd round on this site
Cole Aldrich (Kansas) PF/C 6'11" (7'5" wingspan) - Comparison: Chris Kamen
Donatas Motiejunas PF/C 7'0" (6'11" wingspan) - Comparison: Pau Gasol
Greg Monroe (Georgetown) PF/C 6'11" (7'0" wingspan) - Comparison: Charlie Villanueva
Solomon Alabi (Florida State) C 7'1" (7'3" wingspan) - Comparison: Samuel Dalembert
Jerome Jordan (Tulsa) C 7'0" (7'6" wingspan) - Comparison: Hilton Armstrong
*Remember the comparisons are comparing the games/styles/tendencies of these prospects to NBA players. NOT projecting the sucess of said prospects.
Anyway those are the top 5 centers. Derrick Favors, Ed Davis, John Henson, could be considered Centers when all is said and done.
Varnado is a 2nd rounder because he's weak and he is a little undersized, and he dont have hardly any talent offensively. The only thing he does at an NBA level is rebound and blocks shots.
Cole Aldrich = Marcus Camby
* Both players have funky shots but undrerrated mid range games
* Good shotblockers (Cole isnt on Cambys level)
* High volume double digit rebounders (Cole is a better offensive rebounder)
* Good athletes that run the floor (Camby was a better athlete coming out of UMass)
* Cole has a better post up game but Camby was a better defensive player
1. Cole Aldrich-the best player on the best team in the nation, mix that with good footwork, low post skill, decent midrange jumper, shot-blocking fundamentals, and good rebounding technique and you have the most NBA ready center. Foot speed is a weakness, along with running the court and jus a average athlete
2. Larry Sanders- The most unheralded center prospect, great shot blocker and rebounder, above average athlete, and great finisher off post feeds. Most develop back to basket game, midrange J, and decision-making
3.Solomon Alabi-Has the most potential at of any center prospect in 2010. Very raw offensively but developing. Great shot blocker and rebounder at the moment. Must develop low post skills and strength but has a nice feel for the game.
4. Jerome Jordan-Developing skill set but lacks strength, Patrick O'Bryant is a great comparsion for him. Decent rebounder and shot blocker, has alot of potential.
5. Jarvis Varnardo-The best shot blocker in college basketball, must add strength and some sort of offensive skill set to improve draft stock b/c there is no denying his defensive abilities. Frame might not take weight
6. A. J. Ogilvy-good offensive player but below average athlete, good postion rebounder and good position defender. Not much potential in the NBA but perfect for overseas.
7. Dexter Pittman-Lost alot of weight but could stand to lose more and better conditioning. If he keeps improving on his weight and conditioning could be a sleeper b/c of skill set and footwork
I do not classify Greg Monroe as a center b/c with his unique skill set he is a better fit at PF and Donatas Motiejunas will never be a center in the NBA b/c he will not be able to bang in the post will NBA center and his frame can not add center type weight. He may be able to give you a few spot minutes at the position here and there. Also I left Sidney and Cousins off my list b/c they both were unmotivated in HS so I am taking a wait and see approach with them. If they live up to expectations I would rank them anywhere from 2-4 based on there potential mixed with there youth.
You guys are forgetting Favors, he's a center.
"Anyway those are the top 5 centers. Derrick Favors, Ed Davis, John Henson, could be considered Centers when all is said and done."
I remembered, but what the hell. He is the top Center prospect.
Derrick Favors (Georgia Tech) PF 6'9" (7'4" wingspan) - Comparison: Alonzo Mourning
Ed Davis (North Carolina) PF 6'9" (7'0" wingspan) - Comparison: ??????????
John Henson (North Carolina) PF 6'10" (7'5" wingspan) - Comparison Anthony Randolph
John Henson is no C, he is more of a PF, both him and Davis are on the same team, so I would say that Davis is a center while Henson is the PF. And Derrick Favors is more of PF/SF, I'm thinking more PF, because of his height. Remember a C is around 6'10-7'0 or taller. The only player that is considered C AT 6'9 is Ben Wallace, and that's only because of his shot blocking ability. But other than that 6'9 is a solid PF not a C
Ed Davis 2-5 pick
Cole Aldrich(Although Aldrich could top Davis, depending on his season.) 2-5 pick
Solomon Alabi late lottery
Jerome Jordan Mid to end of first round
Jackson Varnado End of first round to early second
Dexter Pittman End of first round to Early Second round
AJ Ogilvy 2nd round
I think the best Aldrich comparison is another Jayhawk in Raef LaFrentz.
-Both are tall polished big men with average athleticism
-High IQ players and good jump shooting big men ( LaFrentz was a little better and a lefty)
-From the north/central US (doesn't really matter, but its true )
-Great shot blockers and both have good fundamental
-Combo big men, by combo i mean they play offense and defense, many young bigs are underdeveloped on offense, or don't have a knack for rebounding and banging down low
Cole Adrich looks to improve a lot this year, KU assistant Danny Manning is such an underrated part of this equation, Cole's improvement between his freshman and sophmore years was helped greatly by Manning ( a similar impact with Patrick Ewing to Dwight Howard ) I look for Cole to get even better, he isn't a great athlete, but is good enough, and can really knows how to use his size and length. He finishes strong around the hoop despite his calm demeanor. I think Caman is too unpolished of an offensive player, and Camby is a way better athlete, and more of a defense/rebounding specialist. If i had to compare him to a modern era player it would be another Jayhawk Raef LaFrentz who was the 3rd pick in the 98' draft and was on pace to become a good pro, but injuries killed his career, a lot of people forget how good he was and even after coming back from devastating knee injuries still put up a few good years. He averaged around 12 8 and 2 for the healthy part of his career, which i think is a good estimate on how Cole will fare at first. That being said if Aldrich can stay injury free he has a much higher ceiling than 12 8 and 2