Rose or Mayo?
Think about this before you quickly answer. Both are now going to be sophmores and both of these players played very well their rookie years. Mayo is already the number 1 option on the grizzlies, is rose now the number 1 option on chicago because of the departure of BG? - Yes. Next, tell me some awards these two are gonna win, tell me how many times they'll make it to the playoffs, and tell me how many years they'll be in the nba.
i think Mayo will have a much more achieved career as far as points, steals, 3pt's made and %, and if he stayed consistent in rebounds. Mayo also seems a better defender than rose, watch a few more games of his if you don't believe me. Mayo can be compared to kobe and wade because of similar aspects in the game...but i doubt he'll come close to what they've achieved and who they are as a player...although i'm not saying it isn't possible.. I think mayo will win atleast 1 scoring title in his career...i do not doubt this one bit. He'll make the allstar team maybe 5-7 times. how many times he'll make it to the playoffs? i'm gonna say maybe 5-7 times...this is much further in his career...atleast 3-4 years away. As far as what he accomplishes in the playoffs, i can't put my finger down on yet... I think he has a chance to one day lead the grizz to wcf if they get their $hit together for real. I'm gonna say mayo plays about 15 years in the league.
also, i think mayo has the ability to create his own shot from anywhere. i think he's even with rose on driving ability and getting to the hoop. I think both of these players will take smarter shots this upcoming sophmore year of theirs. Mayo was also instantly the number 1 option. The last advantage i give to mayo is size. he can play the 1 or 2 without being dominated...rose on the other hand..should strictly play point guard. I think rose and mayo will be clutch shooters most of their career.
rose already has a lead on mayo for playoff runs...and most likely will have much more playoff appearances than mayo..but can he actually take the flawed bulls to anywhere past the first round? i see ecf a few times...but he needs a real big man over there to push to that level....but aside from that.... as far as leadership..i'd say their tied...as rookies..they commanded their teams on the floor. rose will always have the lead as far as assists on the floor. I give rose the upper hand in physical play as well.
This is hard because they have completely different games and play completely different positions. Mayo is more of a shoot first combo guard while Rose is a pure pass first point guard. I'm much rather this comparison be between Mayo, Eric Gordon and Russel Westbrook.
If I had to say though, I'd pick Rose... Easily. He makes his teammates better. In a couple of years, he could be the best point guard in the NBA.
i know they play different positions..but it doesn't interfere with comparing who will have a more successful career.
I think Mayo will have the better numbers but Rose will have the more successful career. And I can't ever see the Grizz getting to the Western Conference Finals (no offense), but it won't matter because I think Mayo will be long gone to another team by then.
Rose is on a good Bulls team that financially is in good shape so I see them continuing to make the playoffs consistently for a long time. What exactly do you mean by better future or more successful career?
id take Rose, he reminds me of Deron Williams and i think could be better. Mayo will be good but not quite a superstar maybe an All-Star.
Rose will probably have the beter career because the bulls are a piece or 2 away from being a championship team, while OJ will be like the 2003-2006 Kobe Bryant scoring all of the points for his team and inevidably get nowhere
He can get in the lane at will, shows good playmaking ability, and he could be really dangerous if he develops a jump shot. He has good shooting form. mayo can score and will probably average more ppg for his career, but Rose is a better playmaker, and he can control a games tempo. He also is very poised, and passes well. He could become one of the leagues best pgs in the future. Mayo will be a great scorer, but will never lead a team the way Rose will.
it's all on your views of what's a more successful career. I can't say my views are more correct than yours. i think rose will have more playoff appearances and allstar games attended. But i think mayo will outscore, outsteal, outrebound rose period. Mayo has the opportunity to win a scoring title...a much better chance than rose. Mayo with a piece or two more added to memphis could go far. an allstar PF would bring memphis to the playoffs...also..chicago wasn't absolutely terrible before rose showed up...they were 9th last in the league and got lucky gettin rose. rose started with nice pieces set around him with an ok system... and a much needed coaching change that happend. mayo's on a struggling grizzlies team because of coaching changes...poor chemistry...a team owner who won't pay for an allstar PF that would bring some leadership and close off the hole at the 4. I garuntee a lot of you would think differently of mayo if he made the playoffs...there would be much more talk of this kid.
if mayo leaves memphis, i would take him. i think down the line he can be the best sg in the nba
Yeah I admit I would view Mayo differently if he made the playoffs. The fact that he plays for a bad team hurts his status. It is important to see how a player performs in the playoffs when the pressure is really on. It is a shame the Grizzlies won't spend any money..... maybe they will in 2010.
D-Grizzly... You're a Memphis fan and that's coo... I respect your opinion, but you just seem to be overrating Mayo quite a bit. The other day you posted that you thought Mayo would end up being better than Brandon Roy. Above you said that you thought Mayo's game had similar aspects to Kobe and Wade's. That's crazy... Mayo has nothing in common with those two, other than maybe work ethic and his competitive nature. I mean, Mayo has a nice offensive game and footwork, but it's nothing like Kobe's.
I like Mayo, but truth is there's a limit on how good he can be in the NBA because of the nature of his game. He's about 6' 4" and doesn't have a lot of length, so that makes him undersized for the shooting guard position. Wade is 6' 4", but has a freakishly long wingspan and standing reach. Mayo just doesn't have the outstanding strength, length or athleticism as a Wade. Have you seen the way Wade gets into the lane and finishes around, above and through guys twice his size and height? That's not Mayo. Mayo struggles finishing around the rim when there's contact. That's why he's primarily a jump shooter and doesn't get to the free-throw line often. Do you know how hard it is for a guy who doesn't get to the free-throw line to lead the league in scoring?
Mayo has good court vision and ball handling ability to play the point AT TIMES, but lacks the IQ and mentality to play the position more than just a few minutes per game. He also doesn't make his teammates better. Mayo will be a good scorer in this league. Could he one day be among the league leaders in scoring? Yes, I think so. Will he make a few All-Star games? Yes, I think so. However, the chances are he's just not going to be the superstar player you think he'll be.
On the other hand, I think Rose will be a superstar. A franchise point guard... A player you can build a team around. He's going to be a guy that can dominate his position considering he has elite size, strength, speed, quickness, athleticism, court vision, penetrating ability, finishing ability, IQ, ball handling ability and passing ability at his position. I also think that he can become a very good rebounder, defender, mid-range jump shooter and free-throw shooter. He may not ever be a great shooter from the 3P line, but as long as he's respectable, it won't matter.
i really hope they spend some god-d@mn money one day.
conely, mayo, gay ? gasol. whoever this allstar foward is wouldn't complain to have that cast...
how could you complain about having mayo and gay?
i think you missed the part where i said he could be compared to kobe and wade because of aspects in the game. i also said i don't think he'd ever live up to what they've achieved...but he has the possibility to do it. also, if we're gonna compare them...mayo doesn't have that bad of a driving ability for a rookie...do you think wade and kobe drove to the hoop like that their rookie years? maybe wade did because of the time he got on the court. I will also remind you of a post i made about a week ago on how mayo's been working on point guard skills at usc for most of the summer...so his iq playing the point may have increased...backing up my statement about him being able to play the 1 or 2 without being dominated. mayo does lack the playmaking ability...i will not argue there..but it doesn't mean for sure that he won't learn it.
i agree with tezo a bit. I think u are overrating OJ. dont get me wrong he's good..hell may even be a all star but i definitely dont se the grizz ever in the conference finals. also i dont see oj getting a scoring title in the league. The fact is i really dont know how much better OJ can get. I mean of course he will learn more and more about the game of basketball but i think eventually his iq will exceed his talent. OJ is good at alot of things but not great at one and i dont know where his ceiling is 4 how much better he can get. Rose i think will eventually be a top 3 pg in this league and yes he could also be the best in a few years. It doesnt really matter if he becomes a great 3 point shooter in my opinion. I mean jason kidd was never a GREAT 3 point shooter and neither is chris paul right now. but rose has crazy athleticism and his mid range game only makes him more effective. adding a 3 point shot would jus be icing on the cake
The fact that he played on a bad team that had not many other options besides Gay inflated his stats. I am not saying he would not have scored elsewhere, just that he would have scored less.
Mayo is a great talent but he shoot alot and he has a bad shot selection other than the he is good but rose is a special talent u probably want see in another twenty years he got elite speed elite athletiscim crafty handles he's a good defender im not saying he's going to be the best point guard ever but i read articles saying he got the potential to be the best one. Chris Paul better watch out cause rose is coming.
He is the better leader. Better player. I also agree Mayo is nice, but his stats were also the product of a weak team too.
Grizzlies have a good team right now I think they have a chance to make the playoffs this year. I think that OJ and Rose are to different players and their hard to compare but I think OJ will have the better career.
I think Mayo will be an all-star and Rose will a legitimate superstar who will challenge DWill and Paul for best pg very soon.
Rose because even if they are close Rose is a point guard and a point guard holds more value than a shooting guard but this is tough.