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Why is Rajon Rondo Overrated?

Listen, I dont understand how people say this man is overrated? He was a vital member of the Celtics winning a title, He's the only reason why the Celtics can even battle with the Lakers this year. He averaged a triple double and kept the Celtics in the playoffs last season. Allen and Pierce helped but Rondo stepped up his game and led the Celtics past the 1st round. The only knock on this man is his jumpshot but.....

He is the Best PG in the East right now! Why are you guys sleeping on him and disrespecting him?


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Its the new thing...calling everyone overrated

I think Rondo is a great player, rated just fine. He has run the team that won the NBA championship, he is an excellent passer, defender, and slasher. He is probably a top 5 PG in the NBA right now, and if he ever gets anything resembling a jump shot, he will truly be elite.

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derrick rose is better imo

derrick rose is better imo

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Stop that Rose can better

Stop that Rose can better then him down the road, but not now stop that. Rose lacks elite playmaking ability and he is not a great defender. Please, 2 years from now, maybe Rose is better.

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I dont believe hes

I dont believe hes underrated, like iguodala said, i believe hes rated just fine

But for those who say he is, im just going to assume that being on the same team as Paul Peirce, Ray Allen, and Kevin Garnett will do that to you..

But once again, im not the one saying that, if anything hes underrated in my eyes

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I would

take rose over rondo right now. Rondo is very good, but he has nothing going offensively if you can keep him out the lane on a consistent basis. Rose is a franchise caliber talent. I'm very confident that Rose will be the better pg next season. And you can say Rose has no defense, but Rondo did'nt exactly stop Rose in the playoffs last year either.

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Rose vs. Rondo

Rondo is a better decision maker, defender, rebounder, passer, and runs the pick and roll better. He is the best rebounding pg in the nba, and is one of the best defenders. He also outplayed Rose in the play-offs.

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Keeping Rondo out of the

Keeping Rondo out of the lane consistently is a big "if".....

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Thank you, I would take

Thank you, I would take Rondo over Rose. I know Rondo can lead a Championship team he was the difference maker in the Championship Run.

Rose, I dunno he needs to show me that as well. He also seems more of a scoring point. Rondo is a all-around PG.

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I bet you this... the

I bet you this... the Celtics would trade Rondo for Rose anyday of the week. They wouldn't even have to think about it. I would take Rose over Rondo right now. It is close though but Rose is just the better PG overall IMO. Turn it around...do you think the Bulls would trade Rose for Rondo? F no

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Rondo

is overrated, I still think he feeds off his team which was loaded and this past season wasn't bad without K.G either, let's not forget Big Baby also stepped up his game. Rondo won't get a jumpshot and reminds me of Andre Miller. Good leader, Bad shooter, Racks up assists and boards, finds other ways to score his points.

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Rondo

He would be a great player if he had a Jump Shot. However, right now his jumper is pretty bad, and it definately holds him back. At this point he is not much of a threat to score.

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Question: Switch Rondo with

Question: Switch Rondo with Derrick Rose

Rondo on the Bulls & Rose on the Celts?

What would be the differences?
Would the Bulls still be 7-10th seed in east?
Will Celts be 1-3rd seed in the east?

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Rondo

puts up these number because of the players he is playing with. Defences are so wooried about garnett/pierce/allen. That they dont play good d or box that little speadster rondo out. Put rondo an an average team and rondo will be an average role player.

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the Celtics would trade

the Celtics would trade Rondo for Rose anyday of the week

I dont think so, Never devalue Championship and playoff experience

MJ didn't. Jerry Kruase (Bulls GM) wanted to trade Pippen for the 4th pick in 98 draft to add McGrady, MJ said he would retire on the spot because he knew he had a partner who can had playoff experience. I'm not 100% positive they would take that deal.

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Exactly, Do you think he could carry the Bulls like Rose did, don't get me wrong, Ben Gordon is a good player, but he doesn't have the best I.Q. Salmons and Miller were added halfway...How tough are trades for Rookie POINT GUARDS, throw in no real Mentor with Hinrich out for a while and Noah and Thomas were being called bust before he started bringing out their potential in which I believe Rose did that, he helped them. Luol was out as well, put Rose on the Celtics and he'd be really good with Pierce, Allen, Garnett, Davis, Powe, Perkins, House, etc.

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the fact

that we are even having this Rose vs Rondo question after Rose's rookie year should tell you something. Boston would trade Rondo for Rose in a heartbeat, and I would'nt want anyone who would'nt to be a gm for my team.

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and

how can we start holding Rondo's title over Rose when Rondo was the 4th best player with 3 other hall of famers while Rose just played one season and was arguably the best player on a playoff team? Your comparison with Jordan not wanting to lose Pippen after they had won 6 titles together and were both at the end of their career is irrelevant to this discussion. Also, both Jordan and Pippen left the Bulls before the '98 draft, so I think you are mistaken on that one.

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So let me ask this then? You

So let me ask this then? You would take a Rookie over a guy who has a ring? Weather he was the MVP or not? That's crazy. Rondo is the only reason the Celtics have a chance against the Lakers this year.

To be honest, I wanna see the Bulls this year without Gordon, Gordon was the late game shooter last year and the Bulls were the 7th seed last season. Who is gonna step up? Salmons is ok not a star, Deng is coming off injury and some teams in the East (Pistons, Wizards, Raptors) have improved. I have not seen a playoff picture where the Bulls were no higher than 6th. How are the Bulls better then these 3 teams along with the Celtics, Magic, Cavs and Hawks?

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So, it must have been 97.

So, it must have been 97. The McGrady Draft.

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people dont realize hes

people dont realize hes making a living during the playoffs. his reguler season numbers are only avarege. and right now his weak jumpshot is hidden by the big three but if he leaves hell have trouble scoring.

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why is that crazy?

Rose is not a rookie any more and just having a title does'nt mean everything. Would you take Derek Fisher over Rondo since he has 4 tiles? Obviously not. Being a part of a championship is nice, but it does'nt mean you are automatically better then everyone else. Rose is gonna enter the conversations with Paul and DWill for best pg very soon, and I doubt Rondo will ever do that.

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Rondo is the best PG in the

Rondo is the best PG in the East. Come on stop it man. I said before, revisit to me in 2 years and we will see. Derrick Rose had a great rookie season but he is not a elite playmaker and he is not great on D. He can improve that. Rondo is a top 5 PG right now

go back and watch all those Finals Games...he made a couple of "wow" plays himself
go back and watch he 1st round series against Chicago....he took over that series

Rose was not the best player on his team, without Gordon's late game shooting last season, they would have not made the playoffs.

Rajon Rondo is this era's Jason Kidd, he is a below average shooter, great passer, rebounder and defender.

We will see this year if Rose is this "Leader" like we think he is. I think he can be but he is not a top 5 PG and is not on Rondo's level.

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Knicks21- The Bulls will be

Knicks21- The Bulls will be better this year than last season. Remember I told you that ha. Losing Gordon was an addition by subtraction IMO. Now the Bulls have much better length in their starting lineup which they needed. You have to think Rose, Tyrus, & Noah will all improve at least a little. Salmons will now start at SG, Bulls also added Pargo is a good player to bring off the bench. Not to mention James Johnson is going to be a good rookie, Taj Gibson provides more post depth. Bulls have way too much talent to miss the playoffs.

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how can 11 points points be better than 20? theres sevarel pgs in the east hwo put up 20pts a game?

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Rondo is kind of over rated

Rondo is kind of over rated to some degree but he has all the tools to be one of the top point guards in the league but he can't shoot that well. I think Rose is a better prospect and I would never trade Rose for Rondo but if I had to play a pick up game and my life was on the line today I could see myself leaning toward Rondo over Rose slight but after this coming season Rose will overtake him unless Rondo can hit a J every now and then.

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Rondo is kind of over rated

Rondo is kind of over rated to some degree but he has all the tools to be one of the top point guards in the league but he can't shoot that well. I think Rose is a better prospect and I would never trade Rose for Rondo but if I had to play a pick up game and my life was on the line today I could see myself leaning toward Rondo over Rose slight but after this coming season Rose will overtake him unless Rondo can hit a J every now and then.

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I think Rose will be better then Rondo starting next season. For you to say it is'nt even close and calling me "crazy" for saying I would rather have Rose just shows your bias. Rondo's stats are impressive, but he will never be a franchise player. Even Ainge said that himself this offseason. You will see next season.

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Doc Rivers would do a

Doc Rivers would do a backflip & scream like he won the lottery if he could trade Rondo for Rose. lol

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Gator and Bird

Gator- I disagree. I gotta wait and see, they did not fix the hole Gordon will leave IMO. He was the late game shooter. There was a reason they brought him back, he is cold blooded in the 4th quarter. I dont see anyone who has that ability right now.

Bird- You go on numbers . Harris is a good scorer but not a elite playmaker and cannot shoot (6 apg last season) (29% from 3), Rose is in the same boat (6 apg last season) and is not the biggest defender although he is 6-3, it also showed me he doesn't have Rondo's speed. Mo Williams is a scab. He got better next to LBJ and exposed by Rafer Alston. Calderon? Good assists numbers but never showed it in the playoffs.

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think how good Devin Harris, and the big three would be together. hes better than Rondo. i would Take Harris easily sure his playmaking and defense isnt as good. but he avareged 9.4 more points than Rondo!

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HARRIS HAS THE SAME ISSUE AS

HARRIS HAS THE SAME ISSUE AS RONDO....HE CAN SCORE MORE ON A LOSING TEAM!!!!

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agreed gatorheels

I would imagine most Boston fans would even agree with taking Rose. Rondo stayed longer in college, has taken years to get to this point in the league and has benefitted from playing with other great players. And he still has no jump shot. Rose is gonna be a tar in this league, I truly believe that he will compete for mvp awards in the future.

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I would take Rondo over Mo &

I would take Rondo over Mo & Calderon.

Knicks21- Gordon was pretty clutch at times but not always. Also he took a TON of bad shots late in games. He also doesn't play defense & he is undersized at SG. He won't be missed ha. You have to think about the other players.. Salmons stepped up in the playoffs late in games too. Rose, Tyrus, Noah, & Deng have all played under pressure situations in the pros & definitely in college. Bulls have plenty of guys that thrive under pressure.

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So I have a Bias against

So I have a Bias against Rose but you dont against Rondo???

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Harris might

score more on a losing team, but I honestly think Rondo's numbers and effectiveness would go down if he was the main guy and did'nt have any other all-stars on his team.

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Rondo fits the role perfectly, he cant shoot well enaugh to be a 1st or 2nd option. but hes a good 3 oir 4th option. Harris is a legit 1st or 2nd option.

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You really think

Rondo can put up the same numbers on the Nets team as Harris did? He can't score.....

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rose for rondo

I would have the GM fired if he did not pull the trigger on that deal. The celtics would be amazing, they also would not fall very hard when the big 3 are finished.

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Knicks21- Gordon was pretty

Knicks21- Gordon was pretty clutch at times but not always. Also he took a TON of bad shots late in games. He also doesn't play defense & he is undersized at SG. He won't be missed ha. You have to think about the other players.. Salmons stepped up in the playoffs late in games too. Rose, Tyrus, Noah, & Deng have all played under pressure situations in the pros & definitely in college. Bulls have plenty of guys that thrive under pressure.

So why were they the 7th seed? All they lost was Deng...why were they the 7th seed?

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bias

No, I honestly don't have a bias towards either guy. If you think Rondo is better, then by all means feel free. But when you call me "crazy" fro thinking Rose is better or say "it is'nt even close between the two", then yeah that is a sign of bias. No unbiased person would say Rondo is a whole nother league then Rose and have a straight face.

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llperez...I have a bias

llperez...I have a bias against Rose and you dont against Rondo?

Harris shot 29 % from 3 last season and averaged 6 assists. He scored because he had to. Kill Rondo all you want, Like I said he is Jason Kidd like, put him on a team where he has talent and watch his lead.

Why do you think Rondo is getting a big deal this year? He is a big deal, I think most of y'all just some haters.

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Harris had Vince Carter who is a superstar!

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uhmm

I never said Rondo was not better then Harris, I think it is close between those two, but I'm not sure wich way i would go. As for Rondo getting a bigger deal, yeah they tend to give those out to guys after their rookie contract expires and they have proven themselves. What does that have to do with him being so much better then Rose?

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Vince Carter who is a

Vince Carter who is a superstar!

VC is overrated now is nowhere near the VC he was in Toronto. He is a #2 option right now. He is not a #1. And if Carter was a superstar, why weren't they a playoff team? Thank you.

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llperez22- Are you even

llperez22- Are you even reading the post? I pointed that toward Birdzilla.

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Um

I'm not a hater of Rondo, but I just think he is vastly overrated and if he were put in a more difficult situation he would fall on his face as for leading a team. Just watch, the Big 3 is aging, we'll see how he does when he is asked to be the guy.

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20 points for game isnt neccisarily a second option.

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Like I said before, He is

Like I said before, He is this era's Jason Kidd.

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20 points for game isnt

20 points for game isnt neccisarily a second option.

Yes it is. It's not all about scoring......there are other things that matter besides scoring. Anyone would tell you VC is a number one on your team- you might be losing 45 games that season.

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Jason Kidd had a better jumpshot, and you cant say that because Jason Kidd is one of the best point guards of all time, you cant teach the instints of the game he had, and i dont think Rondo has those same skills.

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