Last 4 Spots for Team USA
Ok, so i was reading an article on NBA.com and there are apparently 4 spots open for the 2010 FIBA Championships in Turkey. The commitments are Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh, and Carmelo Anthony. Who in your opinion, should fill the last 4 spots on the roster? I say Kevin Durant, Brandon Roy, Greg Oden, and Derrick Rose.
Outside Looking In: Rudy Gay, Andre Iguodala, Andrew Bynum, Devin Harris, Rajon Rondo, O.J. Mayo, Anthony Randolph
Andre Iguodala, Kevin Durant, Andrew Bynum, Derrick Rose.
only sure thing there is durant
they should get iggy broy and bynum
bu dam theres like no legit 3 points shooter they all are players who drive to hoop
the article they did get invited and the writer of the article said that igoudala,rose,durant and bynum are going to be on team most likely
So, essentially, you have 2 PGs, 2 SGs, 2 SFs, a PF and 1 C already comitted. Therefore, at least 2 of the spots have to be Bigs.
I'm gonna go with Randolph for one of the BIGs because he'll cause many matchup problems for international big men due to his amazing athleticism. On a team like this, the defensive side of the ball shouldn't be an issue for Randolph because most good international Big Men are not big time bangers; therefore, LeBron (250 lb +) and Melo (235 lb +) can swtich with Randolph on defensive assignments so Randolph guards the opposing SFs which shouldn't be a problem with his length and quickness on the permimeter.
The other BIG, and please don't roast me on this, should be Love because he is an awesome rebounder who can spread the floor. His style of play really suits the international game because he is a physical banger when he needs to be down low; this is useful as many international teams have guys with less skill and more aggressiveness and physicality than the other PF, C. Bosh. Love will be a good counterpoint to Chris Bosh. If you watched Minny's games last year (I watched about 12 -15) Kevin Love can shoot the International 3 no Problem many of his 2 pointers are from 19-20 feet, half of which would be 3s in international and college play. On top of that, Love throws excellent outlet passes which will trigger a fair share of LeBron/ Carmelo/ Wade/ Kobe Dunks.
Gay should be added based on the sheer fact that he can provide good scoring punch for 10-15 minutes each game.
The last spot belongs to.... Eric Gordon . Again, hear me out. He weighs 225 pounds and is in decent shape. He's strong as a Caribbean man's Coke and Rum and he's not afraid to play physical D. Last year in LA, he showed that he can play good defense when he puts his mind into it. With Team USA, he'll be good for matching up with crafty veteran guards who know how to use their body. Gordon's conditioning is obviously not at the level of LeBron or Wade, but if he only plays in 3-6 minute spurts (which is more than he'll likely get), he won't show ANY fatigue. Gordon's defense wasn't exceptional in LA, but that was due to the fact that he had to carry the load for parts of the season on the offensive end. With team USA, he just needs to worry about hitting open shots and playing good D. He'll succeed in that role, mark my words.
what do you guys think?
Ok, I stand by my decisions, but I have to say that Gay and Durant should be interchangeable. Durant and Gay bring the same repertoire on the offensive end. The difference is that IMO, Gay can play better Defense against internationals because he is definitely stronger than Durant and both have similar length.
Good stuff man. I know Love is'nt one of the best players, but I really think his style of game could fit in well with the Olypmic team. He rebounds as well as anyone, and he will always make the smart decision on offense. His abilty to pass and shoot from the perimeter fit in well with the olypic style of play.
Gordon and Gay also both make sense. Plus, they will be less likely to get frustrated with less minutes. I'm not sure about Randolph over Durant or Rose though.
Durant is a better shooter and his length would help out tremendously. I also feel like Durant is by far a better player. I actually like your list except for not including Durant and also too many bigs if Lebron and Carmelo will man the 5 but Randolph would be interesting but I dont think international game fits his style. Also look this up Durant and Randolph may be a inch apart height wise. That Kevin Love pick up I like because Kevin Love game would translate to internation play very well. I am not sold on Gay.
Thanks for the feedback. With Durant, I think his biggest skill: Scoring off one or two bounces, won't be utilized very much on Team USA because LeBron, Wade, Carmelo, and Kobe will be hogging the ball in the Triple Threat position either on the extended elbow or top of the arc. Durant's role will likely be reduced to a spot up shooter role. In this case, I really believe that Gordon is a better shooter than Durant. I would take Randolph over Durant ON THIS TEAM because:
1) Randolph is a better cutter than Durant from the 15 or so games I've watched those two play; I could be wrong. Randolph finishes plays much more aggressively around the rim compared to Durant. The importance of this attribute is amplified in international play as it's 5 to foul out. Maybe it's the role Durant's has in OKC, but he doesn't cut to the rim all that much.
2) Durant has never played with the ball not in his hands ever since AAU. IMO, Durant is a good player, but without the ball in his hands, he's not nearly as effective. He reminds me of Jalen Rose is his prime where he would always score by putting his team in isolation and trying to dribble drive or (later in his career) post up. On a team loaded with superstars, Durant's not going to be able to have to ball much, and from what I've seen of him, he's just average at coming off screens.
3) Again, it might just be that Durant's never played this role before that I assume the following. Randolph is a much better weak-side shot-blocker than Durant as evidenced by his amazing Blocks per minute stats both last year and this year in Summer League. It just seems to me that both players play on-ball defense at a similar level. If you agree with that, then you must give the nod on the defensive end to Randolph due to his shot-blocking.
4) Durant's always been THE MAN on every team he's been on. Randolph has always played a secondary offensive role on his teams (he played alongside Ball hogs in Marcus Thornton and Tasmind Mitchell). From the looks of it, if Durant were to get the spot, he'd only play 4-8 minutes in non- blowout games. This might tick him off and make him too trigger-happy and jack up ill-advised shots. Randolph, on the other hand, is used to playing sporadically and producing in limited minutes (thanks to Nellie).
In conclusion, I must say that Durant's definitely the better talent, but Randolph is a better fit for Team USA both mentally and skill-set-wise.
dont need 2 more bigs lebron can play 4 easily and maybe mello they need another center bynum. you guys say gay should be in he hasnt proved anything igoudala has he is a lockdown defender and great in transition so good with chris paul and as far as randolph over durant thing thats ridiculous randolph cant shoot to save his life and as much as i hate saying this brandon roy because he can play point and the 2 should be on Olympic team
I think the last 4 spots should go to Rose, Durant, Granger and Lopez.
Rose simply because he is the next best PG available and the sooner he is in the team the more he can learn the system.
Durant is basically the same as Rose but he is also a stone cold killer and with him it means that USA wouldn't need to select a shooter like Korver.
Granger because he is a solid defensive player and he can play the international 4 spot as well.
Lopez would work well because he has great offensive and defensive skills and unlike Bynum and Oden an outside shot that can spred the floor.
durant is an absolute LOCK to make the next team, will bet the farm on it.
mr rose will get to come along as well probably
i use to think broy was a lock too but i read there were some rumblings around USA basketball that the higher up were a little unhappy with him and lamarcus aldridge for that matter for not showing up for the 3rd straight summer. FOr what its worth, roy is the better player but when it comes to international play i think aldridge would actually be a better fit because of his ability to stretch the floor as a big and his mobility as well. no offense to broy but i think the wing spots are under control with dwade lebron kobe and melo still around.
granger wouldnt be a bad option, he is a good team as well. same can be said for iggy.
think the last spot comes down to oden or lopez. seems like they are dying for oden to do something positive so they can put him on the team so i would venture to guess that its his spot to lose. fortunately, mr lopez would be a great fall back option
i'm looking at....
DURANT- can play the 3-4 and will kill will the international 3point line
ROSE- takes over for Kidd, won't see alot of time behind D Will and CP3 but is a good young pg n isnt a bad 3rd option
ROY- ability to play 1-3, smooth unselfish game, can back up the PGS, Kobe and Wade
Last spot is for LOPEZ, ODEN or GRIFFIN...
This is a toss up for me because I wouldn't mind seeing any of these guys there but if I had to pick 1, I'd say LOPEZ because he can score in the post and defend the bigs. Won't see lots of minutes with Howard and Bosh but he gives them good size and skill on both ends
i think it will be..
I SAY ODEN OR LOPEZ WILL BATTLE IT OUT FOR 1 SPOT...ROSE MIGHT BE A SHOE IN FOR A SPOT..DURANT OR GAY FOR THE 3RD POSITION..AND KEVIN LOVE FOR THE FINAL SPOT...PLAYING ON THE SUMMER GAMES LAST YEAR..MADE LEBRON & WADE MUCH BETTER DEFENSIVE PLAYERS...
1. tli232, Why are all your posts so long
2. 2008 was proof...get the best players...nothing else matters (as long as you have size). Seriously, your gonna put a guy on the team b/c he 'cuts better' than another. No sir. Get the best players. Period. Worry about evrything else later.
3.This is an OLYMPIC squad...and yall are suggesting Iguodala, Oden, Gay...guys who arent even all stars! And they dont project to be all stars, either
4. Why are people still stuck on name recogniton. At this point, why is Greg Oden still mentioned. This is not 2007 and he's not playing Joey Dorsey.
I'll take Durant, Rose, Roy, and Blake Griifin (assuming Amare Stoudemire is out the question)...4 guys who project to be among the best at their positition by 2012.
I would go with these 4 guys to round out the team
Kevin Durant: great shooter with a well rounded offensive game who also provides length on defense
Derek Rose: provides a dynamic young point guard to play behind Chris Paul and Deron Williams
Andre Inguodala: good offensive player, but will primarily be used on the team as a long down perimeter defender who is also a good rebounder from the perimeter
Kevin Love: He is a great rebounding role player who would provide this team with a lot of toughness against some of the post players they go against. While not the most athletic player, he is very intelligent and has a lot of skill as he could easily hit the international 3. Also a great passer and his outlet passes could ignite many a fast break for Team USA
Chris Paul/Deron Williams/Derek Rose
Kobe Bryant/Dwayne Wade
Carmelo Anthony/Kevin Durant/ Andre Iguodala
Lebron James/Chris Bosh
Dwight Howard/ Kevin Love
derrick rose, kevin durant, brook lopez and either anthony randolph or blake griffin
and if not randolph or griffin then maybe danny granger, i totally forgot about him, but he totally deserves a shot