Hey let me throw around some possible scenarios for the 2010 draft and see what yall respond with:
1) Say Sacramento wins the lottery after Evans has a top 3 ROY season AT THE POINT. Who do you draft, and if you take Wall, what are your moves after the draft?
2) Minnesota wins the lottery. Flynn is good but not great and Rubio has decided to play overseas the past season, has improved as a player greatly and wants to come over. Al Jefferson has a another all-star season but healthy this time and K. Love avoids the sophmore slump. Who do you draft and why?
3) Utah has the #1. They don't need Wall and it turns out he is the only true franchise player a very strong draft, and they are a veteran team looking to win a championship, not developing a rookie. Teams all around the league are interested in trading for the pick. What do you do?
4) OKC has the #1 AND another lottery selection, which means you can take Wall and another player that is a better fit. Only problem is your stud 20 something point guard says if he isn't running the show, he wants out (he has hinted at being not on board with sharing the PG spot this year when OKC flirted with Rubio)
Just a couple of scenarios I want to throw at everybody. Just keep in mind that I'm asking these questions as if you were a REAL General Manager, so there has to be logical explainations and consequences to your decisions. Peace.
1)Take Derrick Favors or Paul George
2) Take Derrick Favors or Soloman Abadi
3) Trade the pick
4) You trade the pick
Knicksboy why do you take Favors or Alabi in the Minny scenario? I don't agree or disagree, I just like asking people what they are thinking.
If Minney got it Paul George for sure.........they have no legit SG
Utah Should trade it
Kings should get Favours
OKC should get Favours
You crazy.........Minny is stacked at PF
BasketballGuru is Paul George really good enough to be the #1? Maybe he will be by the end of season, but I don't think so right now.
1. Draft Wall & trade him for a legit low post presence. Hawes & Thompson are never going to get the job done.
2. Draft Wall & trade down to draft Larry Sanders... also get a veteran good SG out of the deal cuz Ellington doesn't need to be starting.
3. Draft Wall & trade him for a legit starting SG. An upgrade there is crucial...Ronnie Brewer isn't anything special.
4. Draft Wall & trade him for a bunch of future picks. With the other lottery selection they should just take the BPA.
1. If John Wall turns out to be the second coming of derrick rose like so many predict, you slide mr evans right over to the two and you have the best YOUNG backcourt in the league. if wall is not as good as advertised, you go with either ed davis or derrick favors depending on who the better player is coming out of the season
2. minnesota takes wall, they need a point guard, kidding. there arent really any 2 guards worhty of being the #1 pick so they either go with someone in the favors mold or maybe they can package the pick for a big time NBA 2 guard.
3.i think utah would be in a similar spot as minnesota, no need for wall and they have okur and millsap locked up for a couple of years. they either take davis or favors and form a nice three man big rotation or they make a big trade for stud wing player.
4. if i'm the thunder, john wall come on down and russell westbrook brings back a pretty good young big in return. maybe a trade for a brook lopez type or soemthing of that nature. mr westbrook seems to be a little selfish this early in his career being so adamant about what is going to happen.
what you guys think
Good thoughts gatorheels. Makes a lot of sense 1 through 4. Maybe if I were Utah I would trade down for a replacement for an aging Okur. Why you so down on Sac's twin towers? LOL I think they are better than at least 40% of the league's frontcourts RIGHT NOW and they aren't near 25 years old!
trojans13- that seems fine until you remember Kevin Martin, who is a top 10 scorer and oh yeah is only 26. You won't get equal value for him in a trade so do you just surrender and give up 25 points a game as well as a no-drama teammate? Maybe you do, I'm just askin.
i realize martin is still around a big time scorer. i'm not saying you could or should start all 3 but they could all log plenty of mintues together and be unreal on the break. i think evans is big enough and strong enough to guard 3's in short periods of time though. could you imagine wall leading the break with evans and martin on his right and left and jason thompson sprinting the middle with hawes pulling up the rear hitting the trail 18ftr. i'm not saying they will become a great team all the sudden but i think i would be a solid group
Knowing minn. They probably wuld take wall if they had tha number 1 pick
I now see what you are seeing trojans13. I do think that would be very fun to watch for a few seasons even though they wouldn't win games consistently.
CaptainAmerica- The Kings will never make the playoffs with Hawes & Thompson both starting trust me. I can only think of 4 or 5 teams that have a worse frontcourt than the Kings. I understand they are young but they haven't shown me much... I just don't believe in either of them to be honest.
I suppose you are right gatorheels since neither are considered tough post guys but I will give them one more season. Do you like one better than the other?
I like Hawes better.
first off im not drafting wall with evans and martin in my backcourt.
im either trading the pick and getting a young stud SF
dependn on where memphis is.
im looking in on trading that pick and with memphis pick, there 2nd rounder or 1st rounder next year, and rudy gay
second if im Minn.
im most likely not drafting george or any big men that i would keep.
so im thinkn bout drafting wall THEN packaging him to a team who wanted him and get the ocean in return.
third if im utah im trading it and getting the ocean
fourth if im okc im drafting favors and putting him at center than worry bout the other pick when it comes depending on where it is
1.) If Utah gets the pick they'll trade Wall and get either an above average veteran 2-guard, and a 1st rounder in the draft or in a future draft.
2.) I think chances are Sacremento doesnt get alot better if they play Evans at the point, which is why their in the lotto ( he isnt a good enough creator for teammates to win too many games). They will take Wall, trade Martin for a low post guy that can defend and/or a small forward that's has decent enough offense but is a great defender either in the draft or a veteran.
3.) OKC wont even draft Wall, I can guarantee that unless Westbrook (God forbid) gets injured or is all of a sudden ineffective, 2 things I doubt will happen. I would see them taking Favors.
4.)I think Minny would take Wall. I seriously do. Possibly trading Flynn or Rubio but I think they would develop Wall as their PG of the future.
If Wall is as good as advertised then you trade fynn and Rubio for pieces at the 2 and 3 or get you a more defensive minded center and put jefferson at the 4.
Also Utah would be wise to take Wall because Deron Williams can play some two. That backcourt would be ridiculous and also Utah has trouble keeping some players. There was a time where a lot of black players did not want to pay there and now even thought they have a good ratio on their team it is hard for them to keep their black player or get a lot of people coming in.
1- Ed Davis; i agree with gatorheels that hawes and thompson are good and r playing well right now. But, in my opinion, neither of them will be game changers. A guy like Ed Davis has that kind of potential. He brings shot blocking (averaged almost as much as hawes and thompson combined while playing half a game) and he is also a scoring threat down low. And don't be fooled by his build, he is a very good rebounder (14 per 40 minutes) If you get him, a lineup of evans, martin,
nocioni, davis, hawes with garcia and thompson coming off the bench is a good team 3 years from now.
2- tough choice, but you have to go sf/sg here, preferably sf. You cannot give up on flynn and draft wall and love and jefferson have been productive, so that leaves the wing spots open. hopefully, aminu or george have developed enough by the end of the year to draft them. another option is trading the pick. one idea is they send love, wilkins, and cardinal (all with one year left) and the #1 pick for chris bosh. Minnesota will have the best frontcourt in the nba to go along with flynn, who will eventually become an allstar, and ryan gomes, who is developing into an above average played. i think toronto would do this in a heartbeat. they would get love who would add strength and toughness to there frontline, expiring contracts, and the #1 pick, who they would use on john wall. john wall, demar derozan, hedo turkoglu, barganani, and love would make a sick team to go along with jarret jack, jose calderon, and joey graham.
3- A trade that works and i think would be good for both teams (utah and atlanta) is as follows: matt harping, ronnie brewer, cj miles and the pick for joe johnson. Atlanta would most likely have two lottery picks in a loaded draft, making it a good deal for them. Joe Johnson could be the player that puts the jazz over the top. D-Williams, Joe Johnson, Andre Kirilenko and than boozer/milsap and okur would b a very good team. Throw in kyle korver and kosta koufas and u have one of the top teams in the west.
4- Trade the pick for Grizzlies two first round pick and a future draft pick. That would give you three first round picks. Assuming you would have the sixth, 14th and 28th picks, this is how i who i would pick and why. 6th- Solomon Alabi; we know that the thunder can score, but they are not a proven defense team. if they add alabi, he will be able to step in immediatley (if he bulks up over the season) and contribute defensively. Luckily for him, with all the great outside shooters on his team, he will never be doubled down low, making it easier for him to get looks. 14th- Pat Patterson; Jeff Green is a very talented player but in my opinion he is more of a 3 than a 4. Patterson is physically ready to step in and help green when needed. He is a warrior. 28th- Lazar Haywood; not a ton of potential, but will be able to be an adaquate 2/3 back up and strong rebounder for his size (i watched a ton of marquette games this year and he was practically playing center for them becuase they had matthews, mcneal, and james. Against blair, thabeet, and harangody, he averaged more than 7 rebounds per game despite his size disadvantage)
u guys agree?
How exactly are the Hawks going to have two lottery picks? Also don't think Atlanta would make that trade for Joe.
Also you take Derrick Favors over Ed Davis
that is definetly giving up way too much for Chris Bosh in my opinion, and thats coming from a raptors fan, Id love it if that trade happened, but i think it may be too much to give up.