Biggest Problem with people's judgement on this site...
In response to a previous post regarding rating yourself as a Basketball player. I feel that with an understanding of where I am coming from this will make a bit of sense to you all... I do not mean to cause any argument, I am just stating a point that without the proper understanding, do not be quick to judge...
All of you have no real understanding to what a true big man in basketball terms is... because of your own individual height...
And due to this, judging NBA big men is not at all valid on any part.
The reason to why I feel this way is because I am:
Age : 28
Height : 6'11"
Weight : 270
Athleticism : 8
Size : 10
Quickness : 6
Jumper : 7
Ballhandling : 4
Potential : 9
IQ : 7
Passing : 4
Defense : 9
While I was in High School, I had D1 school's scouts watching me and offering great opportunities to play at such schools as UCLA, USC, LSU and Stanford. And I had high hopes to work to a shot in the NBA, since I was the same height...
I played rugby in addition to basketball, and tore my entire left knee the final term in my Senior year. My meniscus, ACL, MCL, PCL, LCL were all torn as well as a fractured patella. Hence ending all hope for playing basketball at any high level of organized competition. Although I still play in recreational league games, and pick ups...
But now I am finished Medical School in California, and am working my way to becoming an NBA doctor... specializing in injuries and problems faced by big men.
Anyway, just as a request to all you guys. When getting frustrated with each other and start comparing NBA bigs. Just realize that being an athlete of that size, and being able to compete at high levels is a very hard achievement, more so that more commonly found guard height in a range of 5"11 - 6"4. And all NBA bigs, have worked tremendously to get to such a stage, and demand a more sound understanding to their skill.
I think a lot of people overate their own game. I was brutally honest about myself because I know I'm a terrible basketball player.
the shorter u are the more talented u have to be
I too feel that most people think of themselves as better players than they truly are. But I want to emphasize that I am not trying to make myself look any particular way in each one of your eyes. I am merely stating a well supported point that Big men deserve more respect in regards to their skills in the game. And I know what it is like to have to work unbelievable amounts to even have the opportunity to have the NBA as a possible path.
And based on Auber's comment, it feels that he along with others will doubt my integrity in the analysis of myself. I would not lie about what my skills are, when I have had D1 scouts break down and grade my abilities in my work outs. These numbers are what I had when I was in my Senior year of High School, with only the potential, and defensive quickness decreasing drastically.
I'm not saying you in particular are full of yourself. I just know some people are. People blatantly lie to feel better about themselves. It's not me. Ask me an honest question and I'll give you and honest answer. sit down shake my hand and indulge me in conversation and you'll have my ears for hours man.
You have more going for you than any of these guys on her who believed James Harden posted up on NBA Draft.net
I'm sorry to hear of your story, but It looks like you are headed in a legit direction now in your life man.
You are a very bright mind as well as a very decent kid....
And thanks for the sympathy, but no need. I just wanted to make sure when people read my post that the entire picture was set up. So that was less cause for people to take it the wrong way.
Keep up the passionate discussions guys... I am a diehard fan of the NBA, and the game of Basketball. And you all very insightful and bring valid points into question on many occasions, but not always... with a few completely off topic posts.
But it its a great amusement to hear what people have to say abt these topics
im onyl 5 10 and 132 pounds. so i have to play big and fearless. thats why im so quick. im not lying im super quick like rondo quick. and i can really shoot the lights out. my defense is good. i can rebound well for my size. but my size kills me.
Before I went to Highschool (about 12 or 13), I was
Weight: 195- 200
Standing Reach: 7'4"
Running Vertical: 31"
I was representing my city in tournaments for a year. My feet were freakishly small (size 6 or 7 shoes) for an athlete; hence my knees took a lot of pressure from all the jumping. I was the heaviest guy on the team by a wide margin, yet I was the second shortest guy on the team. I know very well where Killer Kat is coming from saying that it's tough to be a big man in basketball and maintain your body well enough to have longevity. True to the mantra, my left knee gave out, had to lay off it for about a year. Never was able to compete for anything higher than highschool ball. My story does have a silver lining though, after my hiatus from basketball, I lost about 30 pounds and became a ranked u-18 tennis player in my province. Then, I gained all of my weight back. I tore my right knee up that time, then I didn't compete for another 6 months. Now I can't play any sports. *sad face*
My point is... being a heavy athlete is very difficult, at any level.
I would'nt judge member's judgement on this site based on that one thread about rating your skills. I just took that as half joke/ half chance to talk about yourself which everyone likes to do.
"Before I went to Highschool (about 12 or 13), I was
Weight: 195- 200
Standing Reach: 7'4""
dude, you measured your wingspan, standing reach, and vertical when you were 12? is there any point to that?
I think the difference is just the perception of a big man. I'm only 6'1'' but I frequently end up playing center in Rec Leagues and at the gym. It's not that I'm a big dude but it's just that for a recreational player I am one of the taller people that regularly play at my gym. We have 2 6'4'' guys and a 6'7'' guy that run with us almost every day, so I usually end up guarding one of them. It works both for and against you though. I have a size advantage when I play on the perimeter if there are other bigger guys there because a recreational guard normally is around 5'8'' or 5'9'', but my whole skill set gravitates toward playing down low so I have a distinct disadvantage trying to drive against a quicker opponent even though they are smaller than me. Plus, if I was ever blessed enough to play at a high level it would be as a guard, and as far as guard skills go they are pretty much non-existent for me. I never took the time to work on guard skills since I was always stuck playing center.
But that is a pretty sad story man. At least you will get to be around the game you love even though you won't be playing it.
"Future", to answer your question... The reason why I didn't play again even after the interest from the D1 schools, was because of my injury I can not play rugby or any other contact sport again... and as for Basketball, I was crushed that I had to loose my basketball scholarships, because after my injuries I could not get back my standing jump and lateral quickness. Which meant that playing any sort of competitive level competition again was not possible.
And thanks guys, even though what I have been thru I have come out on top and am fine with where I can go. I'm sure you all got game, and best of luck with whatever you plan on doing with your lives.
I am a born Brit so it was my first sport and Rugby has always been a game in which i dominated due to my size...
So, I made a bad choice to continue when basketball was my clear choice... But I was more dominant on the Field since size is everything there, even though I was quite a huge force on the court, but in basketball there are more detailed aspects to a persons game than in Rugby. Where if you are big and can run, you are quite unstoppable.