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My Thoughts: Atlanta Hawks

Im a big Hawks fan,there my 2nd favorite team. I live in Atlanta and I have for about 10 years. But to the bold prediction:

I think the Hawks are building a good team. They have a big time scorer (Joe Johnson), a steady floor leader at PG (Bibby), tough defenders (Mo Evans, Zaza, Big Al Horford), and exciting highlight reel players (Josh,Jamal Crawford, Jeff Teague).

I think the Hawks still need a big man. Yes, they just took Al a couple of years back, but I dont think he is the answer down low. I know for a fact he's a solid contributor and a starter right now, but he isnt going to get alot better. He will always be a guy that gets you 12 pts and 9 boards and he would be a great starter to compliment a great offensive big man. But Horford isnt going to get the Hawks past the 2nd round, he will be looked at as a weakness until we get a true center with a good offensive game.

If you guys think that Marvin Williams is strictly a "hustle player", you are very wrong. He is a talented offensive player with the ability to score at all 3 levels of the floor. He isnt a consistently good 3 ball shooter,but he does show an improved ability at this aspect. He had NO RANGE outside of 17 or 18 feet when he 1st came to the NBA. He is about as good a defender as we have in the NBA when he wants to prove something against his matchup. Even when he is matched up with an guy thats not a "superstar", he puts in work on D. I think Marvin should be a #2 option on a good team, the Hawks just dont know how to use him.

Mike Bibby shouldnt have been signed to a 3 year deal. He is the mentor to Teague, and you dont sign a mentor to tutor a rookie long enough for the rookie to be a veteran. Another Hawks mistake, and it will make things harder than they have to be in 2010 free agency.

I thought the Hawks shouldve traded Josh Smith for a center (Chris Kaman) with offensive skills at 1st, but they should keep him around. Gotta like his talent and athleticism, and still has tons of upside so I wont give up on him just yet.

If the Hawks are smart (dont think they are all the time), they would bring Teague into the playbook slowly and let him do his thing create his own shots. I think he could inherit Flip Murray's role, which would be the right role for him right now until he learns his PG duties.

Jamal Crawford better not come to us, chucking and praying! He also doesnt need to play more than about 30 min. a night. He is going to give up alot of points with his pass lane D, but I cant wait for him to break ankles and make clutch baskets.

For the Hawks to be a championship contender, all they have to do is get a center that can score the ball and allow the frontcourt players to play their natural positions. Horford isnt the answer, we need more.


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acie law etc

i think they just didn't give acie enough time and he never could show any potential.

smith needs to show more as well to bring the hawks to another level. bibby had a decent season last year, among the seasons prior.... and childress...what a di*k...just f*ck the hawks and not help them...they should terminate that contract if he's still on the books. horford will take time though. i think a dominant center next to him and you'll have a very scary front court. but there's just a lack of centers and they're getting smaller these days. picking up crawford and teague beafed the backcourt. as of now, the hawks may have one of the dominating backcourts with joe, bibby, murray, crawford and teague.

if they can get a decent center, no offense pachulia, and maybe a nice PF behind horford....nice.

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I would say that I agree with all of your points, except I slightly disagree with your take on Horford. I think Horford can be an excellent player, but for one he needs to be moved to the 4 and he needs more shots to help him develop. I think he got the 5th or 6th most shots on the team last year. The crazy thing is that if he had been on a bad team, he would have developed more at this point.

To d-grizzly, why would they terminate childress's contract? They have the option of signing him if he comes over or they can try to do a sign and trade if that ever becomes an option. Also, why would he help the hawks? He doesn't even play for them. As far as he's concerned the Hawks aren't helping him get signed or get paid more. So it works both ways.

I think Johnson is probably gone after this year. I really don't have a good outlook for this team. I think they have pretty much peaked as they are currently built and as everyone around them gets better. It doesn't help that they still have their ownership situation.

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Believe me, Acie Law isnt and will never be a starter caliber guy. He is at best a 3rd PG in the NBA. I believe we got a big time steal for Crawford, and Jeff Teague definitely has more of a future than Law in the NBA. He's a future starter. Jason Terry is the person to compare him to.

And Josh Childress is lame. I never really liked him anyway, but he isnt going to come back to the Hawks. We could get a decent player for him I think, he's entering his prime and he's a jack-of-all-trades kinda guy

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i agree their a center away

i agree their a center away from being a dangerous team.

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Haha have fun waiting for

Haha have fun waiting for Crawford to make a clutch shot. Hes 2 for a million on them.

I also like Atlanta's team but Bibby was a great scoring PG that has lost a step. He's no floor general.

Joe is their glue right now. I love how they're built- long and athletic but they have mismatch problems in the front-court.

Horford would be a beast PF but hes no Center.

Zaza is nothing special.

Josh Smith is a great talent but he doesnt have a back to the basket game and he tries to play outside too much for a PF.
Marvin Williams is a solid 3 but not much more than a role player.

Shot selection has been a killer for Atlanta and Crawford isnt going to help that. The Hawks need a true distributor and another big.

Good thing is that defenses wont be able to pack in on Joe Johnson when he's trying to break them down with the addition of Crawford and Teague, 2 great 3-point shooters.

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FLIP IS ALL BUT GONE

I dont think youll see him in atl this season.. Strawberry mansion hs alum is coming home.. I hope.

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didnt crawford hit game

didnt crawford hit game winners for the knicks in his time with them... if i read correctly he hit them against. ''Houston, Atlanta, Toronto, Detroit, Cleveland, Indiana and Denver.''

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The Hawks will have to relocate their team if Joe Johnson walks. NOBODY would go to the games, and they would be like 13-69, like in Joe Johnson's 1st year. Al Horford is a great player, but he would be better off either complimenting a offensively talented center or coming off the bench to provide toughness.

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I was exagerrating but it is definitely wrong to classify him as a big shot maker. There are countless times that the final play was drawn up for him and he missed. Sometimes 3 times in a game. Obviously if you get 150 chances then your going to hit a few.

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Come on

He makes alot of game winner's lets be serious. He isnt a game thats not clutch. He never shoots a high percentage, but I think he's made his fair share of clutch shots Dont hold a grudge because he played for the Knicks and they didnt do good with him.

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I've seen him play 250+ games. I've seen him attempt at least 100 game winners. Microwave pointed out 7 and I'll even give him a few more. Thats 10%. You can have those odds. All you've probably seen are the highlights of a crossover or a rare game winner. Dont give him more credit than he deserves.

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I mean, you dont think 10 game-winning shots is good? I doubt he's taken 100 game-winning shots, the Knicks werent in that many close games.

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we all know Jamal is the

we all know Jamal is the best nba player to never play in playoffs, but hes got that moxy i like to see in players...If atlanta had another scorer to show i think it makes them stronger, but IMO hes a sixth man at best.

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I think if the Hawks are

I think if the Hawks are smart and the need to fix their overall them chemistry and this is also to Minnesota that a Marvin Williams for Kevin Love and some change would be a good move. Williams could be a second or third option and form a nice young Nucleous with Flynn Jefferson and dang it dude from North Carolina that I can not think of right now. They could trade the rights of Rubio for a legit center in the draft or one avaliable now. You can collect all the talent you want but if you cant get them to fit right you are wasting your time. Smith needs to move back to the 3 with Horford and Love being interchangeable at the 4 and 5. Love is a solid rebound and quality passer who can hit a few perimeter shots. Bibby and Johnson and even sometimes Josh Smith can drop bombs from deep knowing that the boards will be got by any of their front court players. Horford and Smith can block shots and take up for Love's lack of D. Minnesota would then be the spot where Marvin Williams takes off. he will get more opportunities to shine and will. He and Jeffererson will be Flynn's favorite targets. The way things are going Joe Johnson will jet for New York because Atlanta is not making enough moves to get over the hump.

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Swap Josh Smith with Marvin Williams I had to do this this way because they will not let you do a sign and trade

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

realistic this trade is better because Williams could possibly get around 9 million a year and also Hawks get an expiring contract.

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