Blazers Want Oden To Focus On Boards, Defense
Jul 23, 2009 3:49 PM EST
Trail Blazers general manager Kevin Pritchard wants Greg Oden to focus on his defense and rebounding.
Pritchard is watching Oden as he participates in USA Basketball's three-day minicamp in order to gauge his improvement this week.
"We want to see progress, that's what we want to see," Pritchard said. "We'd like for him to play well so he can get some confidence and feel good about the work he has put in."
Oden, the first overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft, is coming off his rookie season and has dealt with a myriad of injuries.
"We know he has been working hard this summer," Pritchard said. "He's put in some work -- really good work -- with Coach (Bill) Bayno this summer. We want to see some improvement."
Oden averaged 8.9 points, seven rebounds and 1.13 blocked shots in 61 games last season.
"We want to see him run the floor and do the things he does best. Playing defense, being an effective rebounder -- offensive boards and putbacks," Pritchard said. "We're looking to see him be able to guard a couple of different positions and be the physical presence down low like we know he is."
god help that boy! please!
What do you think his ceiling in the league will be?
honestly, I think it will be a toss up.
a) 20% that he takes well to being properly developed and becomes a 25/13/3.5blk player
b) 40% that he is properly developed and becomes a 20/13/3blk player, or
c) 40% that he is improperly developed and becomes a 12/9/2.5blk player.
The major differences in his ceiling will be his confidence on defence (playing his position and not fouling), and his confidence and ability to focus on developing his offence.
Honestly his rookie season did not go as badly as many suggest. He was recovering from an injury, and still played reasonably well as a very young big guy (they take the longest to develop). He will probably improve significantly upon last year over the course of his career.
I think C. He showed signs last season of being a dominate player, however, I don't think he will reach his full potential. There just isn't enough room in Portland to develop. He will continue to be a solid player and tease all his fans with the occasional 30-15 game.
Im gonna go with A. It takes 2 years to fully recover from Microfrature surgery. I think he will show this season. I think we gonna see a couple 20-20 games and maybe flashes of dominance in the post. Bynum exploded in his 3rd season- Expect Oden to be good if not great in Year 2.
I don't put him on the BUST list yet because he is still young and besides his scoring is not needed when you got guys like Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, Rudy, Travis and Steve putting all the work on offense... Greg landed on a 41 win team during his rookie season...unlike Durant who landed on a rebuilding mode team in SEA/OKC... If Greg landed on 15-21 win team, no doubt he would've posted 16-18 ppg and 10-12 rpg. His offense needs a lot of work but his rebounding and defense will vastly improve over the years... I think he has a big chance here... Everyone is already saying he should have been drafted AFTER KD but I want to see it in 2 or 3 years maybe and there we can find our conclusion...
Whoa QGotham Oden will never average 25 ppg in this league IMO. those numbers are much better than Dwights
Pritchard is doing the right thing in getting Oden to focus on defence and rebounding. In focusing on his natural strengths he'll gain his confidence back a whole lot quicker and hopefully become the player the Blazers imagined when they drafted him 1st in '07. Personally I dont think Oden will ever become a dominate offensive force in this league, but I can defiantly see him putting up 12-12-3blk a gm for years to come on a successful Blazers team if Pritchard keeps this roster together.
Howard averages like 23ppg now with no low post moves....when Howard gets 2 solid low post moves, he will be winning a couple of MVP's
oden will probably never be a 20+ scorer in the nba, but i definitely could see him averaging 15 rebounds... he is a best on the boards... if you look at his rebounding rate (thanks to hollinger) he was 8th best in the league (as a 20 year old) and led the league in offensive rebounding rate... if you take his current production (he is going to improve greatly next season due to his knee being healthy, being in much better shape, the extra training, and gained experience) and have him play 32 min a game and his numbers are 13.5 pts, 10.5 reb, 1.7 blks...
now, you might think he isn't going to be able to play that many minutes because he is too foul prone... well, my answer is that oden was very out of shape last season (you could see it in his body because he was not even close to as cut as he was in college) because he wasn't able to run and jump until only a month before the season, and was constantly getting tired during the games... and when big men get tired, they also tend to get lazy and extremely foul prone... he will also learn when, and when not to, try to block a shot... which will cause him to foul much less...
my projected numbers for oden next year are 15 pts, 13 reb, and 2.5 blks, and possibly the MIP award and becoming an all-star...
Those numbers seem legit.
how will his stats be similar to mutumbo? oden is a MUCH better offensive player than mutumbo... if he was on a team without two all-star caliber scorers (roy and aldridge) he would be taking a much more active role in a team;s offense... also, people forget that he is still only 21... plus, post offense (which he seems to have natural instincts but not yet the skills) takes most players a much longer time to learn...
If you look at Mutombo's stats they're along the lines of 14 points, 12 rebounds, and 4 blocks per game. With your "Oden being a better offensive player than Mutombo" is pretty laughable. Oden has no post moves like you mentioned, he's basically scores his points off rebounds. I don't understand how that assessment alone would warrant a MUCH better offensive player than anybody lol
Oden does have a better offensive game than Mutumbo, Everything is not all about moves and Oden has few post moves but no counters. Also Oden has more offensive Knack then Mutumbo. There are certain situation where Mutumbo was not going to score but Oden would have that ability to do it. Dwight Howard has no post moves but is a far better offensive player than Mutumbo.
oden best season numbers will be 16ppg 13rpg 3bpg
Mutumbo had a decent hookshot and he could hit a lil fadeaway off the baseline.... Oden seems to have a hard time making his moves in the post.....
Greg Oden will never sniff 20 ppg in the NBA, he may get close to 15 though if everything goes well meaning he doesnt get injured and he improves on offense. I dont think he'll ever be a #1 option, or a #2 either. I do think he will get you 2 bpg and 10 rpg though. Expect him to put up Emeka Okafor type numbers..
as of right now ODEN=POOR MANS THEO RATLIFF if he is lucky he will have as good as career
I agree 100% with your first post. You were RIGHT on the money. I couldn't have said it any better myself.
Being from Indianapolis, I've had a chance to watch Oden since before he was a freshman in high school. He's NEVER been a 20+ scorer, but from middle school to college, he never lost more than three-four games. It's not that Oden couldn't score, it's that he's unselfish. After a loss in the Marion County Tournament to North Central HS (Eric Gordon's team) during his junior year, Oden's coach had to implement a rule that Oden had to take at least 20 shots per game. If he didn't, the coach said he wouldn't play. The very next game (vs North Central HS again) Oden scored 37 points and grabbed 15 rebounds. His back to the basket moves are a work in progress, but he's very talented. I mean, he can handle (left and right hand), pass, shoot and makes his free-throws. He'll never be a 25 point per game scorer because of his mentality, but he'll be respectable... Mainly because of his ability to offensive rebound and finish around the rim with authority.
Oden's bread and butter is his defense. He's a unique player who can change the game by LITERALLY shutting down the paint. Theo Ratliff and Omeka Okafur are good defenders/shot blockers, BUT they don't shut down the paint. Oden may not always get the shot block, but he'll change the shot or make players think twice before entering the lane. When he does get a block, he's the type of player that would block it to a teammate rather than scream and block it out of bounds. He's tall, big, long and has excellent recovery speed/timing. He has a very high defensive IQ and is usually at the right spot at the right time. He knows everyone's defensive assignments and is great at both one on one and weakside defense. Of course there's always an adjustment period in the NBA (micro surgery, etc hasn't helped him), but I think that next season he'll start to show exactly what he can do. The most thing Oden is, is a winner. All this and I WENT TO North Central HS lol. I couldn't stand him or his team in HS, but I know great when I see it though.
hes still 21 has the best offensive rebounding rate his stats for 36 minutes is something like 15 12 2 which isnt that bad for an injured player. people dont remember Howard at the sam age Oden is now got 36 mins a game and got 17 12 1.9 and he was healthy on a team where he was pretty much their number 1 option, so Odens main concern is staying on the floor.
Blazers are sitting pretty having the luxury of having a player with the defensive potential of a Patrick Ewing. If he's healthy, he will be a dominant force on that end of the court. Blazers are lucky to have players around him who can score, easing his burden to have to deliver 20 ppg. Roy, Aldridge and others can carry the offense. Oden is a great player if he's dominant of D and scores 14-17ppg. He may surpass those scoring numbers, but if he changes the game because of his D and controls the boards Portland can live with that scoring average. He's still a kid and I fully expect a great career for Oden and a bright future for the young and talented Blazers.