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Zach Lavine- Early Return Date?

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Zach Lavine- Early Return Date?

Theres been alot of chatter about Zach's rehab process going well but no defenitive statements. I seen on Yahoo and Rotoworld the Bulls recently worked him out and he recorded a better verticle than his predraft measurements, it also said he should return shortly after the season begins. Its funny because his average draft position is around 100 in fantasy drafts because of his injury yet he could very well end up playing 70 games this year. If he does he is my favourite for the MIP award. He will be given the green light to shoot at will and that has never been the case. He has also played for 3 very strict head coaches Saunders, Mitchell and Thibs and has never had the chance to be a volume shooter behind Wiggins and Towns ion the pecking order. People may disagree but Chicago has done a great job acquiring players that will actually fit into Hoibergs system and I feel like Lavine may save Hoibergs job with the Bulls.


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Cautious please

I hope they're being cautious, I don't care how much higher he jumps its an ACL. Coming back early ruined careers of some of the best talents ever. Lavine is a great talent in his first year at a new team and he's still only 22. Dude got a whole career ahead of him regardless of Hoibergs job.

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I dont see him winning MIP

I just dont see him improving upon 20ppg much, %s will be the same or worse since hes the number one option and he shot ass with KAT and Wiggins drawing attention from him, I don't see him making a major jump in rebounds or assists either. Hes one of the worst defenders out of players who see significant minutes in the league. So even if he averages 25ppg, thats a 5 point increase while not increasing his other areas and being on what is going to be a 20 win team. Doesn't scream MIP to me. Plenty of shoot happy guards put up big numbers on bad teams, its nothing special, someone just has to put up the shots.

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Calling myself out, totally

Calling myself out, totally misremembered his shooting %s from last season, they were actually pretty stellar for a 2 guard at 45/38/80. However I still stand by the fact that they will drop pretty heavily going to Chicago where he is going to shoot happy as all hell under the most lax coach hes had so far and being the number one option on a turrible team. He's going from being the defenses third thought to their first, thats a lot less open threes and a lot more create it yourself off the dribble and end of shot clock possessions for him. I'm expecting a NYK Jamal Crawford season out of him, 20~ ppg, 5~ assists, 3-4 rebounds, 40/33/80 from him. Not really MIP material imo

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You sound stupid. Check your

You sound stupid. Check your stats before your comment. Matter of a fact watch some videos of him before his injury last year. Obviously you didn't really watch Zach last year prior to injury.

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Yeah blunder on my part

Yeah blunder on my part apologies. Usually do. Did watch quite a bit of Minny games last year actually, still stand my points.

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Lavine

I've said this before on this site but I think Lavine has great potential, I've watched almost every game of his 3 year career, I don't think people give him any credit. He hustles and works his ass off, he will be just fine coming off this injury, pre hip injury he was averaging around 21/game, 25 should be very doable. I can absolutely see him in the running for MIP.

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Lavine fits in this fast

Lavine fits in this fast paced league, my knock on him since UCLA is his lack of basketball IQ.. You can tell he was never coached fundamentally.. I like Lavine as a scorer and Ive compared him to Jamal Crawford as well on here..

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If he is bettering his draft

If he is bettering his draft vertical already then his rehab must be going well, he can certainly do shooting drills now I'd guess, at worse he'd keep his FT and mid range ticking over before he starts working on drills, contact, one on one etc.

A return date will still be decided and I'd guess the Bulls would want him to do an effective "pre-season" even if it means him missing start of season. Also his workload would need to be regulated, see how he responds after games. When he is good to go does he play say 30mpg per night or might they ease him back a bit earlier only playing odd minutes just to get him back in the groove.

I'd guess he'd be on a minute restriction initially and they'd monitor reaction to playing and build it up from there, sit a few back to backs or at least play less minutes in 2nd game so they can get him sound.

Zach if sound and back to his best in the New Year could easily drop 25ppg post All Star break next season IMO.

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Dude won't be MIP this year.

Dude won't be MIP this year. Last year he had a very underrated year with Wiggins and Kat he quietly avg 20 pts a game. He will more than likely be a All star in the East then MIP. He is like a more Athletic CJ McCollum/ Bradley Beal type of 2 guard. He can Shoot and play PG for brief stretches of the game. His Iq and Defense is not where it needs to be yet but he is still young and can do it all when it comes to scoring.

Its hard for me to project his statline for this year b/c of the injury and he will be the primary scoring option on the bulls which has no talent comparable to Kat and Wiggins. But every year he has improved and in the weak east another modest step forward in his game would Definetely make him all star material.

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I would say a reasonable

I would say a reasonable expectation once he is at 100% is 21-ppg, 3-rpg, 5-apg, 1-spg 3.0-3ptm 42%fg, 35%3pt. But 25 points per game is not out of reach and he could very well get there, I see him more as a Damian Lilliard type guy. Instant offense PG.

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Another thing Id like to add

Another thing Id like to add is to be the go to guy for a team every night he is going to take a beating. He really should be strengthening his upperbody even if it does limit his first step/verticle a bit which he has tons of to spare so he can get into the paint more and effectively use his athletisism to attack the rim. He only averaged 3.0 free throw attempts per game and only 6% of his shots came in that floater/teardrop ranger of 3 to 10 feet. All the top gaurds in the league shoot between 10% to 20% of thier shots within that effecient range and Lavine has the skill to use that shot. It maybe that he didnt have the oppurtunity to display that skill with Wiggins and Kat around but if he is going to score 25-ppg thats how because most of his scoring is coming from jumpshots which he has effectively mastered.

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I'm not really surprised

I'm not really surprised Lavine's vertical is higher than it's ever been. He's been focusing on strengthening muscles in his legs that he's probably never focused on before. Plus tearing your ACL doesn't really hurt your vertical. It hurts the way you move laterally, stop, cut, plant, change directions, etc.

A torn ACL normally takes close to two years until you're 100%, but there are those who are just freaks of nature. I thought Lavine might take some time since he tore the ACL in his ridiculous left pogo stick leg, but maybe he'll bounce back a lot quicker.

I think he returns around mid Nov. That'll put him around 9 months. It'll probably take him a month or two to shake off the rust completely. He's a tough minded kid, but the biggest challenge to ACL recovery is mentally. It just takes time. I personally don't think he'll have a MIP type of season. I think that'll be next season.

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