[max23Participant]

 I love this player’s potential.Not everyone improves in college,but an offseason of bulking up followed by a bigger role with UCLA next season,with Adams and Anderson gone,would do wonders for his game.

I dont follow high school basketball at all,but i know many posters on this board do.Could Lavine go number 1 next year?Or is there a potential franchise big coming to college next year?Im assuming,maybe stupidly,that an nba team would pick a potential franchise big(especially a c)over a potential franchise pg/sg.

[i’m jus so offendedParticipant]

 If he goes before Cliff Alexander, Okafor, Mudiay or Myles Turner, I would be shocked

[i’m jus so offendedParticipant]

 If he goes before Cliff Alexander, Okafor, Mudiay or Myles Turner, I would be shocked

[imAboutDatActionParticipant]

 no, he wont be able to jump #1 next year.

but what he can do is set himself up to be a top 5-10 lock. he has all the tools, its jus a matter of playing time,oppurtunity, and more touches. obviously adding more weight is needed, but wont be that much of a big deal as most of us think. 

if he left this year he still will be selected in the 1st round, but he’s not lottery selection lock.

[imAboutDatActionParticipant]

 no, he wont be able to jump #1 next year.

but what he can do is set himself up to be a top 5-10 lock. he has all the tools, its jus a matter of playing time,oppurtunity, and more touches. obviously adding more weight is needed, but wont be that much of a big deal as most of us think. 

if he left this year he still will be selected in the 1st round, but he’s not lottery selection lock.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 He hasn’t shown or gotten the chance to show me he can play the Point or what kinda player he is. However, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be able to play SG full time given his height and length. I’m not sure what level his handles are, can he brake his man down off the dribble ? I noticed he is good defender moves his feet and hands well on D. Weight might be an issue, but Reggie and Rip were skinny guys and had very long careers.

He is far from being NBA ready.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 He hasn’t shown or gotten the chance to show me he can play the Point or what kinda player he is. However, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be able to play SG full time given his height and length. I’m not sure what level his handles are, can he brake his man down off the dribble ? I noticed he is good defender moves his feet and hands well on D. Weight might be an issue, but Reggie and Rip were skinny guys and had very long careers.

He is far from being NBA ready.

[juves4783Participant]

lavine had the hype train behind him at the beginning of the season, but he came back down to reality since.  if anyone drafts him, it would be purely on potential.  teams gameplan against anderson and adams which frees up lavine for a lot of open shots.  if he stays, he won’t have that benefit.  when people argue gary harris vs. lavine, i shake my head because harris is the guy at msu that teams gameplan to stop.  lavine is not.  last year, harris was the lavine of the team and had similar percentages and numbers.  the only difference is lavine can jump out of the building.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

So you’re saying Lavine is Harris of last year. However, if Adams and Anderson were to leave next year Lavine wouldn’t pan out Like Gary Harris ? I’m just trying to understand. I think Garry Harris is more then a good enough athlete, but he does not have brake your man down ability handles. Height and length with him is just ok too. I don’t believe he is taller then 6’4 and length looks to be 6’6/6’7.

[juves4783Participant]

 i’m saying gary harris was the beneficiary of being an unknown last year with the offense running through the post.  if you look at the fg attempts that year, it was pretty evenly distributed between the 5 starters.  

 i think it’s fair to say lavine is enjoying a similar situation with being the number 3 or 4 guy behind anderson and adams.  next year, we’ll see how well lavine does as a #1 guy.  everyone argues he’s going to be a 20 ppg guy.  i don’t really know.  he’s definitely got the athleticism, but he’s been relatively inconsistent in long stretches.  gary harris is putting up 18 ppg and people are acting like that won’t translate to the next level.  for me, i take production over potential especially when you are talking about a year age difference.  the sg position is not like the post players.  you get your shot by having ball skills, high bball iq and agility, not necessarily by being long and tall.

[juves4783Participant]

 i’m saying gary harris was the beneficiary of being an unknown last year with the offense running through the post.  if you look at the fg attempts that year, it was pretty evenly distributed between the 5 starters.  

 i think it’s fair to say lavine is enjoying a similar situation with being the number 3 or 4 guy behind anderson and adams.  next year, we’ll see how well lavine does as a #1 guy.  everyone argues he’s going to be a 20 ppg guy.  i don’t really know.  he’s definitely got the athleticism, but he’s been relatively inconsistent in long stretches.  gary harris is putting up 18 ppg and people are acting like that won’t translate to the next level.  for me, i take production over potential especially when you are talking about a year age difference.  the sg position is not like the post players.  you get your shot by having ball skills, high bball iq and agility, not necessarily by being long and tall.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

So you’re saying Lavine is Harris of last year. However, if Adams and Anderson were to leave next year Lavine wouldn’t pan out Like Gary Harris ? I’m just trying to understand. I think Garry Harris is more then a good enough athlete, but he does not have brake your man down ability handles. Height and length with him is just ok too. I don’t believe he is taller then 6’4 and length looks to be 6’6/6’7.

[juves4783Participant]

lavine had the hype train behind him at the beginning of the season, but he came back down to reality since.  if anyone drafts him, it would be purely on potential.  teams gameplan against anderson and adams which frees up lavine for a lot of open shots.  if he stays, he won’t have that benefit.  when people argue gary harris vs. lavine, i shake my head because harris is the guy at msu that teams gameplan to stop.  lavine is not.  last year, harris was the lavine of the team and had similar percentages and numbers.  the only difference is lavine can jump out of the building.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

This kid is a lottery pick this year..

Great shooter,very good handles,great athlete,length and with Anderson handling most of the point guard duties, he’s learned to play off the ball…..I would take him ahead of Gary Harris and Jerami Grant would are in the lottery of most mocks….

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

This kid is a lottery pick this year..

Great shooter,very good handles,great athlete,length and with Anderson handling most of the point guard duties, he’s learned to play off the ball…..I would take him ahead of Gary Harris and Jerami Grant would are in the lottery of most mocks….

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 Garry Harris will be a solid player in the league. I have no doubts about that. Lavine though has the potential to be something more then a solid player with his height, length and athleticism. It’s not like he is just run and jump athlete and can’t play, but I have to see more then just samples of it to make a real call on him.

[For_Never_EverParticipant]

 Garry Harris will be a solid player in the league. I have no doubts about that. Lavine though has the potential to be something more then a solid player with his height, length and athleticism. It’s not like he is just run and jump athlete and can’t play, but I have to see more then just samples of it to make a real call on him.

[reanimatorParticipant]

 I’m not even sure he is the best or even top 2-3 combo/shooting guard coming out next year. 

[reanimatorParticipant]

 I’m not even sure he is the best or even top 2-3 combo/shooting guard coming out next year. 

[PhillytheKid]

The kid has the most potential out of anyone.  A very good draft usually has 5 or 6 all stars in it.  

Potential all-stars in this draft:   Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Randle, Exum, and Lavine.  

I don’t think Marcus Smart is going to pan out.  He’s already getting his weak drives to the hole blocked in college.  Imagine him trying to do that to Roy Hibbert.  Plus he’s so erratic from the outside, its not a nice stable shot like Jordan and Lebron developed…Smart is too energetic to ever calm himself down and kill it in an NBA game…at least thats how I see it.  I don’t think he’s an all-star.

Harris is not an all-star.  He’s a do-everything solid body, but he is not an all-star in the NBA.

McDermott may make an all-star game like Wally Sczerbiak once was.  And I think Saric potentially could be one.

Beyond that, its those 6 and I definitely include Lavine.  He has all the tools and spacing in the NBA is going to allow him to put his skills on display.   

Oh also, Adams and Anderson are no way all-stars, and they will not pan out to much in the NBA, because they aren’t athletic enough.  See Evan Turner…in the NBA athleticism + skill = all-star.  Skill alone is not enough unfortuntaely, unless you are an oversized phenom like Dirk Nowitzki or Paul Pierce.

 

[PhillytheKid]

The kid has the most potential out of anyone.  A very good draft usually has 5 or 6 all stars in it.  

Potential all-stars in this draft:   Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Randle, Exum, and Lavine.  

I don’t think Marcus Smart is going to pan out.  He’s already getting his weak drives to the hole blocked in college.  Imagine him trying to do that to Roy Hibbert.  Plus he’s so erratic from the outside, its not a nice stable shot like Jordan and Lebron developed…Smart is too energetic to ever calm himself down and kill it in an NBA game…at least thats how I see it.  I don’t think he’s an all-star.

Harris is not an all-star.  He’s a do-everything solid body, but he is not an all-star in the NBA.

McDermott may make an all-star game like Wally Sczerbiak once was.  And I think Saric potentially could be one.

Beyond that, its those 6 and I definitely include Lavine.  He has all the tools and spacing in the NBA is going to allow him to put his skills on display.   

Oh also, Adams and Anderson are no way all-stars, and they will not pan out to much in the NBA, because they aren’t athletic enough.  See Evan Turner…in the NBA athleticism + skill = all-star.  Skill alone is not enough unfortuntaely, unless you are an oversized phenom like Dirk Nowitzki or Paul Pierce.

 

[justymlParticipant]

 Don’t know why everybody is quick to call a combo guard or SG that’s 6’4 or shorter with a 6’7 wingspan "undersized" I thought basketball was all about length you play d with your arms, you finish at the rim with length, get your shot off with length. Height never really bothers me with combo or 2 guards its the length that I look at. I like Harris he has a strong frame solid athleticism great quickness and a decent stroke..he’ll be fine in the NBA as a combo or 2 reminds me of brad beal just not as pure of a stroke

[justymlParticipant]

 Don’t know why everybody is quick to call a combo guard or SG that’s 6’4 or shorter with a 6’7 wingspan "undersized" I thought basketball was all about length you play d with your arms, you finish at the rim with length, get your shot off with length. Height never really bothers me with combo or 2 guards its the length that I look at. I like Harris he has a strong frame solid athleticism great quickness and a decent stroke..he’ll be fine in the NBA as a combo or 2 reminds me of brad beal just not as pure of a stroke

[rileymcshea3Participant]

 His situation reminds me of Jeremy Lamb. Not saying they play the same but both role playing SGs who showed flashes of potential and stayed another year to take on a bigger role(Assuming Lavine does stay) with a chance of being a top 5 pick. If you do remember he was at one point the number 1 pick on this website.

BUT back to Lavine I don’t think he will ever be a franchise talent, simply because he is so skinny. Don’t give that Kevin Durant talk because this guy isn’t a National player of the year as a freshmen like KD was. I do really like Lavine as a player and prospect. His jumping,length,skills, and shooting will make him a deadly scorer. Even his agility and length will make him a good defender. I just can’t say he will be a superstar even with all of his potential. Go to scorers are great at getting to the line with there great balancing ability causing the defender to foul them to they don’t get easy baskets. I know a guy like Lavine who has hops,length, and skills that really impressed you open dunks. It got you thinking I could give this guy the ball and let him do his thing, but he simply couldn’t because he got off balanced every time he drove to the basket with a guy still guarding him. It’s the difference between a D-Wade and Monta Ellis. Regardless I love his potential but it isn’t superstar potential.

[rileymcshea3Participant]

 His situation reminds me of Jeremy Lamb. Not saying they play the same but both role playing SGs who showed flashes of potential and stayed another year to take on a bigger role(Assuming Lavine does stay) with a chance of being a top 5 pick. If you do remember he was at one point the number 1 pick on this website.

BUT back to Lavine I don’t think he will ever be a franchise talent, simply because he is so skinny. Don’t give that Kevin Durant talk because this guy isn’t a National player of the year as a freshmen like KD was. I do really like Lavine as a player and prospect. His jumping,length,skills, and shooting will make him a deadly scorer. Even his agility and length will make him a good defender. I just can’t say he will be a superstar even with all of his potential. Go to scorers are great at getting to the line with there great balancing ability causing the defender to foul them to they don’t get easy baskets. I know a guy like Lavine who has hops,length, and skills that really impressed you open dunks. It got you thinking I could give this guy the ball and let him do his thing, but he simply couldn’t because he got off balanced every time he drove to the basket with a guy still guarding him. It’s the difference between a D-Wade and Monta Ellis. Regardless I love his potential but it isn’t superstar potential.

[strobox88Participant]

 I agree with the guy above. I’ll admit, I was on that upside bandwagon, but now I don’t think he’s worthy of a lottery pick in this draft (although all is fair game after pick #14).  A lot of people compare him to Westbrook because of the athleticism and same school (also not starting as a freshman) but he can’t get to the rim like Westbrook could.  I see him as an athletic Klay Thompson at the next level who will learn to further improve his shooting touch from the arc while occasionally diplaying some highlight reel dunks (little-to-no contact plays mostly).  He reminds me of Ben McLemore with the schooting skills and athleticism, but I think McLemore has more upside at the NBA level.

[strobox88Participant]

 I agree with the guy above. I’ll admit, I was on that upside bandwagon, but now I don’t think he’s worthy of a lottery pick in this draft (although all is fair game after pick #14).  A lot of people compare him to Westbrook because of the athleticism and same school (also not starting as a freshman) but he can’t get to the rim like Westbrook could.  I see him as an athletic Klay Thompson at the next level who will learn to further improve his shooting touch from the arc while occasionally diplaying some highlight reel dunks (little-to-no contact plays mostly).  He reminds me of Ben McLemore with the schooting skills and athleticism, but I think McLemore has more upside at the NBA level.

[Land of GrantParticipant]

 An athletic Klay Thompson would be an insane player, though. The question is, is LaVine a shooting guard who isn’t a great shooter or used to playing off the ball, or a really big, athletic point guard. Or the question might be something entirely different. I really don’t know, I just like posting.

[Land of GrantParticipant]

 An athletic Klay Thompson would be an insane player, though. The question is, is LaVine a shooting guard who isn’t a great shooter or used to playing off the ball, or a really big, athletic point guard. Or the question might be something entirely different. I really don’t know, I just like posting.

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