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  • #68666
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    Andrew1984
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    Wherever your team picks, give me your:

    1. The player you want, in a dream scenario that you know is unlikely, but there’s always a chance.
    2. The player you fully expect to be available, whom you would select if it was your choice.
    3. The player you believe your team will actually select.
    4. A player who has been mocked to your team at that pick, whom you at all costs want absolutely no part of.

    I’ll go first, with Cleveland at No. 8:

    1. Michael Porter Jr.
    2. Kevin Knox
    3. Collin Sexton
    4. Wendell Carter Jr.

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  • #1119738
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    jonus grumby
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     sorry if I am the Bulls GM Porter does not get to you.  I (I’m playing GM here) orchestrated a tank to get a potential top 10 NBA player.  Porter may flame out but he has the highest potential to be a top 10 player so I am taking that risk.

    1.  Porter 

    2.  Mikal Bridges  this gets a weak vote.  I really think 7 is a bad spot if a PG does not go early.

    3.  Bridges

    4.  Bamba (I know I will get flamed but I am not a believer in his shot)  I see him as the biggest bust potential in the top 7.  I have only seen him mocked this low once but I have seen it so …

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1119772
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      Scrooge McDuck
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      Sorry had to cut in line here. I’ve only scout about half the players on the mock (Youtube and Television, obviously). The Blazers at pick 24: 

       1. My dream scenario would be Donte DiVenzenzo, Troy Brown, or Robert Williams.

      2. The players I expect to be available who I would draft… Mykalliuk, Hamidou Diallo, LeGerald Vick. LOL, shows what I know.

      3. Not sure who they will actually select, but I gaurantee it will be a high character guy with and interesting back story, i.e. Myers Leonard who is from a military family, homeless and adopted, or Caleb Swanigan who lost like 300lbs.

      4. I want no part of Chandler Hutchinson (Too slow and not an impact player). Gary Trent (Douche bag).

       

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      • #1119838
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        Scrooge McDuck
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        Huh, negging me. Care to comment why? Nah I doubt it. 

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  • #1119742
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    bigblackNbeautiful
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    I would like us to pick one of these 3. 

    Elie Okobo

    Jerome Robinson

    Donte Divincenzo 

     

     

      

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  • #1119743
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    ndbigdave
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     I see a fellow Bulls fan already posted, but I will chime in.

    #1. Marvin Bagley. It wont happen, but I can at least envision a scenario where Jackson Jr., Bamba, Ayton, Carter, Doncic and Young go – it would be crazy but not totally impossible. I would love to have a guy like Bagley who crushes the offensive boards (and who could feast there) while being a roll man with Lauri and Lavine.

    #2. There is so much smoke right now it is tough to tell, I would say Michael Porter Jr. I get the impression that he wants to be here, and if I am satisfied with the medicals, then MPj becomes a fun piece to work with Lauri as two oversized post/wing hybrids who shoot first. I also agree that without the injury the odds are that he is a top 3 pick, which means the tank to get that potential "elite guy" works out. If the talk of Porter going higher is real, I will go with Wendell Carter. Yes, it wouldn’t be "sexy" but great teams need guys who do what Carter can do (rim protection, rebounding, some "switchability" while not being a liability or factor on offense) not sure its a "bad thing" to "settle" for a guy who could be a 15-10 type player with potential to be much more offensively as his outside shot develops. He is just solid.

    #3. If there is a way to be less sexy than Carrter, then that would be Mikal Bridges. I get the pick, and I can see him being a starter on a championship team, but he feels like a piece added to a team ready to contend (See: 76ers) because by the time the Bulls are likely to compete they will need to fork over some serious coin to a high-value role player. That all being said, the love for Bridges is high within the Bulls management.

    #4. About the only player I cannot make myself buy into is Miles Bridges. I understand the athleticism, but he is not a strong shooter (though he fancies himself one – super scary) and is not the defender you would think he should be. He is better off as a small-ball power forward where he can pull guys away, defend and rebound, with the Bulls he would likely have to play the small forward. I may not cheer for Trae Young either (I consider myself firmly on the shrinking Dunn Island) but I can justify it as he is a shooter and can help create for other guys like Lauri and Lavine. We may give up 120 a night, but there will be nights we score 130.

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #1119759
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      FrankTheTankkk
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      I don’t think Bagley can co-exist defensively with Lauri, which is why I would love to see Mo or JJJ drop to 7. 

      I think drafting Trae will secure the Bulls as the worst defensive team in the league. 

       

       

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      • #1119771
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        ndbigdave
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        Respectfully disagree (at least in part). Lauri plays (primarily) away from the rim, is limited as a rim protector and isn’t a strong rebounder. Bagley can feast downlow with put-backs, rim runs, offensive rebounding and I think he is a better rim protector than given credit for (he averaged more BPG than Ayton in the EYBL and still averaged 1.0 while playing the wing in a zone). I also like that Bagley has shown the ability to be switchable due to his athleticism. Bagley doesn’t need sets for him to be a double-double threat and balances – in part, what are some of Lauri’s weaknesses. I say all this, and it won’t matter as he is going to be gone by #7, but I would love to land a guy with the upside and ability as Bagley. I think his defense is greatly exaggerated and as he physically matures he will be a terror in the paint as a finisher and rebounder. Of course, I am staying more positive with his physical, mental development along with what I believe with be a "threat" at the three-point line, but as far as the guys go this year, Bagley is right at the top with potential blended with what he has already shown at the high school and collegiate level. He has warts – all of the prospects do – but he is right at the top of my list and love how he could be used with Lauri.

         

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  • #1119745
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    goddag
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    Pick 20.

      1. Huerter, we need outside shooting and length

    2. Hutchison, ditto

    3. Wagner, ditto

    4. Diop, ditto

    Pick 48.

    1. Metu

    2.Vanderbilt

    3. Diop

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1119752
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    thetruth87
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     Knicks #9: 

    1. Michael Porter Jr. – Could end up being the best player in the draft if he lives up to his potential and injuries aren’t an issue. A no brainer if he’s still available at the 9th pick. 

    2. Kevin Knox- One of the youngest players available, with a ton of potential. Coach Calipari compared him to Jason Tatum from last year’s draft. The Knicks will be horrible next year with KP out until February, we will have plenty of oppertunity to develop him. I’m a big fan. 

    3. Kevin Knox- See above.

    4. Mikal Bridges- Don’t get me wrong I think he will be a solid player in the NBA. Will be able to defend and hit the 3 at a high level, and can step in right away and be part of an NBA rotation. But again… the Knicks stink, and this kid is already going to be 22 by the time the season starts, so I don’t think he has as much upside as other younger players in this draft. I’d rather swing for the fences and try to land a guy with higher potential. 

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1119758
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    HayatoKanzaki1
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    Warriors

     1. Moritz Wagner

    2. Brandon McCoy

    3. Kostas Antetokounmpo

     

     

     

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  • #1119760
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    Cutler06
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    Nugggets

      @14

       1) Knox

       2) Bridges

       3) Diop

       4) Brown

     

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       1) Diop

       2) Melton

       3) Fraser

       4) McCoy

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     1) McCoy

     2) Bonga

     3) Kulboka

     

     

     

       

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1119761
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    1) Porter – I don’t remember a player that was that high on people’s radar as a Top 3 pick, with that scoring ability (and the size that offsets some of the athleticism concerns) who didn’t become a solid contributor.  An entire season of tanking, our last chance to draft in the Top 10 for awhile (if you follow the Bulls, you know that they are going to attempt to get to the Eastern Conference Playoffs as early as next season and in the East, it’s not impossible).  FOR ONCE IN THEIR DARN LIVES I WANT GARPAX TO SWING FOR THE DARN FENCES ON A GUY THAT COULD BE SPECIAL!!!  DON’T PLAY IT SAFE EVERY DARN TIME!!!

    2) Bamba – I don’t think there is a chance he isn’t VERY GOOD at defense and rim-running.  Jaren Jackson Jr has more of an opportunity to never "get it" versus Bamba.  Especially when you consider he is a very smart guy, went to a gifted school in New York, and his physicals aren’t just "great", they are "best ever" type of physical attributes that raises his floor quite a bit.

    3) Young – The more I watch his ballhandling and playmaking ability, as a true freshman no less, the less I see Jimmer Fridette/Shabazz Napier, the more I see closer to Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Steph Curry style talent.  Then again, I remember how high I was on Perry Jones III so what the Hell do I know.

    4) Mikal Bridges – Probably the only HIGH floor, LOW ceiling guy I would even think of at #7

    5) Take on some salary, since you can’t sign any free agents of note in Chicago anyway, and add another pick.  I hear that Denver is looking to unload #14 and Faried (maybe package #22 to move up 8 spots and take on a contract that doesn’t effect the Bulls next season in any way) and look to grab one of the 3rd tier players that might drop like…

    Miles Bridges, Wendell Carter, S G-A, etc.

     

     

     

     

      

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    • #1119778
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      ndbigdave
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       Cant argue with the logic, I have been hot and cold on Young. On one hand I "get it" the kid does have next-level, Curry-esqe range. He also is capable of setting guys up. The fact that he did what he did as a true frosh is basically unheard of – if he gets to play with guys who can hit shots and give him space (Lauri and Lavine can do that for sure, even Portis can space the paint). Then the Young from early in the college season is likely the one we get to use. He pairs "OK" with Dunn as another ball-handler which allows Dunn to focus on what he does well (play defense, attack the rim) the dilema remains that Dunn has to become a better shooter. The question becomes, are there enough shots for Lavine, Young and Lauri? If Dunn is one of the starters, along with Lopez I suppose there are, but how horrific will our defense be? Lavine should be a much better defensive player based on his tools, Dunn I think can be a stud defender, Lauri was better than advertised moving laterally while offering nominal rim protection, but really only Dunn has shown any consistent defensive talent and ability to be considered a "plus defender." Are we really just going to outscore teams? We are totally lacking wing players, I think Valentine is better suited as a 10th man (at best) and our backcourt would be SMALL. I can see the positives with Young, but the negatives, especially for the Bulls likely outweigh them.

      Bamba is easy to talk yourself into, there are things he can do Day 1 that other players can never do due to Bamba’s natural ability. To think he is only 20 is scary as he will definitely get stronger and smarter about how to use that reach. Even if he never becomes a true unicorn hitting near 40% at 3s he is still a freakshow rebounder and rim protector which makes up for Lavine being terrible and Lauri being "average" defensively. Keeping Dunn at PG, Bamba at C while letting Lauri/Lavine being the scorers would be a great thing. Tank one more year for a heavy wing draft in 2019 and the Bulls just might have the makings of a real NBA starting lineup.

      Love the idea of using our cap space to get another asset. Your trade makes a ton of sense, I would gladly take on Faried – his energy and play style is just what Bamba needs to see and be exposed to – while we can move up to get a wing/backcourt player to build with. I like the SG-A idea and there are plenty of others I like in that range that can build with the rest of the core.

       

       

       

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      • #1119784
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        Scott42444
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        I also am hot and cold on Young.  Basically, if you go back to Steve Nash and Steph Curry and look at their scouting profiles you see basically the same knocks as you see with Tre Young.  Actually, I remember with Curry it was more a question of whether he was a true PG or not and/or whether the level of competition at Davidson was enough to accurately scout his skills against the best in the world.  That is NOT something I see as an issue with Tre Young.  The fact that he is a very good ball handler AND led the nation in APG at a Big 12 school makes me look at almost all of his comparisons with disbelief.  Yes, his defense leaves something to be desired.  I don’t think he’s going to be as much of a liability as everyone else says.  He is a true PG, so he’s going to be guarding another true PG.  Yes, there is constant pick and roll switching occuring in the NBA.  That is why the Bulls seem to be targeting a 3 AND D wing at the #22 spot.  David Nwba is probably going to be re-signed as well, as well as Dunn (as you clearly state) having All-NBA caliber defensive potential.  

        As far as there being enough shots for Lauri, Lavine, and Young, well if you draft Trae Young you are going for a Mid-Western Warriors concept where you have a PG that can shoot from everywhere (and is a REAL PG that can break someone down off the dribble and can pass to open shooters) lined up to a SG in Lavine that also has PG level ball handling ability (I believe he came into the league as a PG/SG prospect).  Lauri is the REAL DEAL at PF.  When he gets stronger and more acclimated to the NBA I think he becomes a consistent All-Star with his size and shooting.  He doesn’t even really seem to need the ball half the time to be happy.  

        Anyway, good post.  Thanks for the feedback.  

        To be honest, the only reason I’m higher on Michael Porter is because he slots better into the SF spot (which is an area of weakness for the Bulls).  I know that a lot of people view Porter as a modern 4, but every video I ever see of him he’s dribbling and driving like a modern wing.  Yes, he’s had back/hip trouble.  That might limit his NBA career.  Do the Bulls worry about only getting 10 years out of a guy instead of 15?  As we found out with Derrick Rose, who was the youngest MVP in NBA history, the injury bug can hit anyone at anytime.  I don’t think it’s something we should be worried about.

        Long story short, if Bamba, Porter or Young are there at #7 and the Bulls take Wendell Carter (the what? 5th bigman off the board out of the Top 7, the 2nd best big on his college team and the typical high floor Bulls draft pick) instead I’m going to throw my television out the window.  These morons need to swing for the fences for ONCE IN THEIR LIVES!

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        • #1119804
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          ndbigdave
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           I think I can talk myself into Young on offense, but that defense is going to be scary and not just because of his size/ability it is because of who else the Bulls put on the court. Other than Dunn the Bulls have average (Lauri) to outright bad defenders everywhere else, Lavine is an athelete and a weapon offensively but gets beaten badly off the bounce and the Bulls dont have a great rim protector. Lauri gives only a nominal amount and though Lopez is solid and does the dirty work he wont be around but one more year most likely.

          Can the Bulls really play Young, Dunn, Lavine, Lauri Lopez together? The offense I think would be fine overall (though Id be concerned about teams playing off the poor shooting Dunn) and though I love Nwaba as a defensive guy off the bench and appreciate his tenacity/energy I dont think he can really start. What else could we really go with? Valentine? Portis at the 5? We would really need to outscore teams.

          So much of this depends on who is available, if things go as planned we wont have a chance at: Ayton, Doncic, Bagley, Bamba, Jackson Jr., – which means one of Porter or Young will be available (most likely). It isnt like our defense is going to be good with Porter, but I like the potential size and versatility that Porter and Lauri can provide, if we cant stay right in front of guys at least they are tall to contest shots and hopefully help on the boards. A Dunn, Lavine, Porter, Lauri, Lopez lineup is still lottery bound, but I dig the size and if we move Lopez and Portis can be our "5" I think we would have at least 4 guys who can shoot and Dunn who can attack the rim.

           

           

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  • #1119781
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    Taylor Gang Mike
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     10- Kevin Knox

    26- Grayson Allen or Gary Trent Jr

     

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    • #1119786
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      Scott42444
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      How many rookies do you think the 76ers actually bring to camp next year?  I had an earlier post discussing the unlikely scenario where the 76ers keep their 2 1sts and their 4 2nd Rounders.  Do you think they could be sellers of some of those earlier back-to-back 2nd Round picks?  There is a chance that Gary Trent Jr. slips to #38 and you can get all of the above.

      Also, I think Mikal Bridges is VERY likely at #10 for Philly.  He’s also seemingly the PERFECT pick.  Aside from the fact that he is playoff ready right away (probably cannot say the same for Knox), his mother working for the 76ers already makes it almost too good to be true.

      How do Philly fans feel about Mikal Bridges at #10?  Boring? Exciting?

        

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      • #1119795
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        Choppy
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         Also, I’ve heard that Philly is bringing Jonah Bolden over next year. So that’ll be one rookie from last year, plus the 2 first rounders. Can’t see any second rounders making it unless a big name drops. 

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      • #1119798
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        I hope they use some of the picks to get rid of Bayless’ contract. The one’s that are left will either be sold or used on Euro stashed players.

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      • #1119799
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         Most Sixers fans think Mikal Bridges is the ideal pick for the Sixers at #10, but I don’t think he’ll be there. 

        I doubt the 76ers have more than 3 rookies in training camp unless some notable guys drop. Jonah Bolden is likely coming over too.

        The second rounders will likely be a combination of trades and draft and stash. 

         

         

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  • #1119797
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    Endlessknight
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    Here’s my picks for the Sixers at 10 (in order of preference)

    1) Porter – Small chance he drops this far but I would love it if he did

    2) Mikal Bridges – Just a seamless fit for the team’s needs and style

    3) Knox – I think he’s high’y underrated given his age, size and skill set.

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    • #1119800
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       I think Knox will be the pick at #10 as Porter and Bridges will likely be gone already.

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      • #1119802
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        My only issue with Knox is in terms of fit. He’s a 3/4, more of a 4 really, and this team needs a wing. With Saric, Bolden and maybe even Ersan I’m not sure where/how Knox fits.

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        • #1119810
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           That’s fair. I think Knox is an upside pick based on potential. He has the physical tools to be a solid defender at some point in his career. Unless the Sixers make some big deals that alter the rotation I don’t foresee Knox in more than a reserve role next season. The 76ers also tend to play position less basketball with the exception of Embiid who only plays center. Knox has the versatility to thrive in their kind of system as he develops. 

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  • #1119812
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    BallerScript
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    Boston Celtics

    1. The player you want, in a dream scenario that you know is unlikely, but there’s always a chance.
    Donte DiVicenzo or Kevin Huerter
    2. The player you fully expect to be available, whom you would select if it was your choice.
    Josh Okogie
    3. The player you believe your team will actually select.
    Grayson Allen
    4. A player who has been mocked to your team at that pick, whom you at all costs want absolutely no part of.
    Maybe Elie Okobo or Shake Milton

     

     

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  • #1119813
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     Jazz 1st round:

    Dream: Elie Okobo (or if that’s not ambitious enough, let’s say SGA or Sexton falling)

    Hope: Elie Okobo (probably realistic?) or Omari Spellman

    Probable: Brown, Huerter, Hutchinson, Evans (I’ll keep my expectations low)

    Don’t want to touch: another shooting guard

     

     

     

     

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  • #1119816
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    Bulls at #7

    1. Jarren Jackson Jr – His shooting will make Markkanen even more dangerous and his defense is much needed.

    2. Praying for Jackson to fall, crazier things have happened, but… Wendell Carter Jr. – Scared about his perimeter defense but should be an extremely solid pro. In a draft with so many high risk prospects he seems like a safe pick.

    3. Michael Porter Jr. – Bulls have been linked to Porter for months now. 

    4. Michael Porter Jr. – Carmelo Anthony with major injury concerns. No thank you! He is soft and doesn’t play defense. Several front offices think he is immature, entitled, and only out to chase girls. The Bulls front office usually doesn’t go for that type of character, espeailly after draft Tyrus Thomas. 

    Bulls at #22

    1. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander – A bigger, better shooting Rondo! I would be happy with him at 7. Could pair with Dunn for a defensive nightmare of a backcourt. 

    2. Chandler Hutchinson – Nicknamed "Terminator" for his intense workouts. His shooting and slashing ability will fit in nicely with this young core.

    3. Chandler Hutchinson – ! 

    4. Grayson Allen – Not just the next typical hated Duke shooting guard. This guy actually deserves it. He has done so many dirty plays and immature acts on the court. Despite his ridiculous range I don’t want him anywhere near my favorite team.

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  • #1119831
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    1. MPJ: Some are saying his injury issues could push him out of the lottery. I don’t think that’ll happen, but if it did, the Wizards would be fools pass on him at 15. His game complements our other Porter Jr. very well and could give us a ton of lineup flexibility with MPJ playing minutes as the stretch 4.

    2 and 3. Robert Williams: The Wizards need to upgrade their frontcourt. Williams has great defensive potential, and the Wizards need a defensive anchor.

    4. Honestly, I can’t say I’d really be upset with any move here except Grunfeld trading the pick.

     

     

     

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  • #1119833
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     1. Jaren Jackson Jr. — intriguing potential who could be a defensive presence for the Bulls but I believe he’d be gone by then at 7.

    2. Michael Porter Jr. — 6’9 combo forward who is essentially a top 3 pick if not for back problems. Would love to have him on the Bulls if he is indeed healthy. Him and Lauri would do wonders on the Bulls’ offense.

    3. Wendell Carter Jr. — a big man with strong motor and a solid athlete. Would love him here at 7. We do need bigs and he can be a the big man for the future.

     

    As for the 22nd pick, remember that GarPax have done a solid job in getting value picks in the mid first round so I hope they’d do a good job here ala Taj Gibson and Bobby Portis:

    1. Chandler Hutchison is an intriguing player to look at at 22. His size at his position will help him in the majors.

    2. Gary Trent can be a shooter the Bulls need. I’d love to see him on board.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1119870
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     Knox is in Philly today for a second workout. Which is an indivdual workout. That tells you something

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  • #1119872
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    khaled_a_d
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    Mavs

    1. Doncic,I know he is this site 5th pic but I don’t believe it,pI think he goes 2nd to Kings despite reports specially after the photo with the owner’s son and even if they pass on him I doubt he goes beyond Memphis.
    2. Wendell Carter, I think he is very underrated prospect, one of the youngest in the draft and very good measurements, he is overlooked because he isn’t a freak of athlete like the rest of the draft bigs.
    3. Have no idea, but suspect it might be one of JJJ and Bamba.
    4.MPJ, even if healthy I think he is a bit overrated prospect who won’t fit coach Rick.

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  • #1119873
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    3: MO BAMBA. It makes so much sense to put him beside John Collins and watch them develop into a a talented and long frontline. I think Bamba has huge potential, I like his upside and fit more than Jarren Jackson or Bagley, and esp more than the Trae Young splash pick the Hawks are interested in making. 

    19: I hope Aaron Holiday is there at 19, he makes sense. Schroeder isn’t happy and by all means I hope he leaves. Holiday has proven he can be a plug and play type, can play extended or reserve time and he comes as a ready made contributor on offense even if he doesn’t start. I do understand that this pick and the 30th could be traded though. Would also love if the Hawks picked Divencinzo here too, I think he’s going to be a stud on the wing one day. We could use more shooters! Huerter might not be a bad pick either

    30: Jacob Evans or Wagner from Michigan work. Jacob Evans was a little inconsistent last season but I like his smarts, size and overall skill set. He’s like a poor mans Jimmy Butler in my eyes wouldn’t mind havin him as a depth option on the wing. I just like Wagner and was impressed with his overall improvement at Michigan he seems like a rotation big with a stretch game.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1120429
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    khaled_a_d
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    Man, I got my dream scenario

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