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Your favorite player that never made it?

Who is a player (from any level of basketball. high school, college, international) that you were a fan of, but never turned out like you thought or hoped they would.

and tell why...if you want

Mine would be Matt Frieje of Vanderbilt

When i was about 7 or 8 and living in Kansas i got to see him play for Shawnee Mission West High against my older sisters school. He was a freshman or sophmore on the Varsity team and he was a beast. 7 years later when im in 9th grade i checkout nbadraft.net for the first time and see he is a potential second round pick. This is what started my interest in college basketball. He was like a 6'10" Dirk at Vandy, but looking back it was more like a more athletic Matt Bonner(Ohcanada)

But now i see somehow he is a starter for the Lebanese national team


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Maybe not my favorite, but I

Maybe not my favorite, but I thought Kevin Pittsnoggle from West Vrginia was the truth a few years back, and I was suprised when he wasn't drafted at all. He was a very exciting big man to watch in college due to his high skill level and shooting ability for a big man. It turns out he was completely out of shape after he graduated from West Virginia ans suffered as a result of it. Nowadays he is out of basketball entirely

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Daniel Ewing

Daniel Ewing

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Clay Tucker...wish the

Clay Tucker...wish the D-League would've been more established back then so he could have had a better chance

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Omar Cook

Omar Cook

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Earl Manigault. if you have

Earl Manigault. if you have never heard of him many say tht he may have been better than Michael Jordan. There is a movie about him called "Rebound, the Legend of Earl Manigault" this dude was 6'0 and could grab a dollar off the top of the back board. Kareem Abdul-Jabar said he was the greatest player hes every played against. check him out

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Jason Gardner - North Central

Jason Gardner - North Central High School and Arizona University

We went to the same middle school and high school. I played for the same middle school and high school coach. He was a big deal in Indianapolis, especially in the Washington Township area, and was who all we kids looked up to at the time. He was the first freshman from our middle school to make varsity at North Central. He was one hell of a running back too.

I'll never forget being in elementary school and coming up to Westlane Middle School to see my cousin, who played football with Gardner. They were in the gym just playing recreation ball and I went out on the court. Gardner said, "If you can't play, go sit down." I didn't sit down and hit a three and he was like, "Good shot little man!" Lol I know that's minor, but meant a lot to a little dude like me.

I was a freshman in high school when he was a senior and since the freshman team, junior varsity and varsity team practiced together, I got to practice against him everyday. He led North Central to the 4A State Championship that season and won Mr. Basketball. Was a McDonald's All-American and then went to Arizona where he had a great career. He didn't get drafted, but was invited to the Suns' training camp. He ended up getting waived and playing overseas. He's been over there since.

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Cant decide...

Cant decide btwn these 3

Darius Washington - Memphis

Marcus Taylor - Michigan State

Joe Forte - North Carolina

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Shelby Jordan - Hillcrest

Shelby Jordan - Hillcrest High School

Melvin Buckley - Thornwood High School, Purdue University, South Florida

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Artem Zabelin of CSKA Moscow

Artem Zabelin of CSKA Moscow was one of those intriguging European type finesse forwards who could play from SF to C and was talked about being drafted from 2006 onwards and each year I'd have him in my mocks as a 2nd round stasher and he was never drafted but I followed what progress he made with interest.

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Darius Washington Jr. for

Darius Washington Jr. for sure, if only he had entered the draft a year earlier.

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Tony Akins

A four year starter at georgia tech at pg.

averaged double digits all 4 years and close to 17 or 18ppg with a good amount of assists too

only 5-11 and when it was time for him to be drafted the nba was looking at longer, taller guards where as now short/quick guards are back in style with the hand check rule

Attended Berkmar HS in GA

Half korean half black and now plays somewhere in asia

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Chris Taft

This kid had the potential to be Amar'e Stoudemire or Kevin Garnett... But for some reasons, he never developed because of injuries and poor performances...

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Yea... I liked Taft too. He

Yea... I liked Taft too. He had bad knees.

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OMG

Dajuan Wagner- The Next Allen Iverson I was hurt when he got ill..........he and LeBron would have done damage

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DaJuan Wagner / Lenny Cook / Koleone Young

DaJuan Wagner / Lenny Cook / Koleone Young / Leon Smith

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Salim Stoudamire. Not many 2

Salim Stoudamire. Not many 2 guards his size make it but i thought he coulda been a great spark off the bench. Injuries havent helped him either.

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Tim Pickett

Florida State's Tim Pickett. An absolute defensive beast that could shoot from anywhere on the court.

In 09-10, he avg. 30 pts, 6.4 reb, 4 as, and 2.6 steals a game on 68% 3pt shooting.

Sure, it was in China, but thats still a rediculous statline.

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aaaaah!!! i LOVED pickett!!!

aaaaah!!! i LOVED pickett!!! stupid cheap Hornets...

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Ike Diagu, he was a beast in

Ike Diagu, he was a beast in college and very fun to watch. He was always a guy I thought would be a very good power forward in the mold of Elton Brand, but despite his high draft pick he never panned out. I don't know if it was injuries or mental, but he was always a favorite of mine.

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Marcus Hatten St

Marcus Hatten St Johns

Derrick Byars Vandy

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I always wanted Antawn Scott

I always wanted Antawn Scott from Wake Forest to make it. He was a flashy, athletic 6'8" forward who threw down some crazy dunks in his day. He was on the And-1 tour for a while.

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James White - FLA/CIN Jaron

James White - FLA/CIN

Jaron Rush - UCLA

Jerald Honeycutt - Tulane, dude was a gunner back in the day....

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Dejuan Wagner

Artem Zebellin was a good one.

This is easy for me but I got 2. Eddie Griffin and Dajuan Wagner.

I was starting High School when both of these guys were almost done and saw Griffin play plenty of times before he went to Seton Hall and was 20 n 10 guy with 2 blocks as a freshman.

I thought Griffin should of been the first pick in that draft obviously in hindsight it would of been Pau but we never got a chance to see what Griffin was capable of because of his personal demons. But that kid could do it all. He had like a 7'5 wingspan and was a legitimate 6'10 and was a deadly 3 point shooter. He was a great shot block and rebounder on defense and a deadly 3 point shooter on offense. Plus he was athletic and a nice dunker. The sky was the limit for him and its sad to say he hit his limit and is not in the sky.

Dajuan Wagner...that dude could ball...I remember when he scored 100 points in a high school game it was breaking news on Fox here in Philadelphia and all over the papers....Is The Camdem Messiah the Next Iverson? FYI Camdem is a very small city in Jersey just across the Delaware and over the Ben Franklin bridge in Philly. Camdem mostly resembles North Philly because the whole city is a gutted wasteland and there is really nothing to like about it except the riverfront. Thats why Wagner was so important. He went to Memphis and became the first Caliprari PG experiment and averaged over 20 points in his freshman year.

Everybody was excited when he went to Cleveland with the 6th pick tho I felt he should of went as high as the third pick but no lower then 5 because the kid was a scoring machine. His rookie year was nice averaging over 13 points a game and I remember his home coming game in Philly he lit it up, him and Iverson went back to back and the game went to overtime where of course AI closed it out. But the potential was there. He had the type of potential to average over 25 points a game in this league especially with the hand checking rule. But then he got sick. He had some sort of disease where he lost 50 pounds in the hospital was on life support at one time. It ashame because he was a good kid and was actually nicknamed the Chosen1 here in Philly and Camdem. The next year LeBron arrived. I thought it was a match made in Heaven. Lebron super versatile with all his passing ability and Wagner with his scoring instincts and outside shooting.

I truly believe if Wagner next got sick LeBron would have a ring by now. Wagner's prime would of been Gilbert Arenas. They have virtually the same physical profile and game style except Wagner was a better and flashier ball handler. Wagner would of took the pressure off of Lebron to do all the scoring and would of let LeBron focus more on is playmaking abilities earlier in his career.

LeBron, Wagner(had he never got sick), Boozer = Championship

You can throw in a healthy D Miles in there because he was a good defender.

And don't even think of saying that Lebron wouldn't of meshed with a player like Wagner had he developed because Lebron just signed with Wade who is virtually the same kind of player.

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@ Young Splash I didn't even

@ Young Splash I didn't even noticed you said Wagner too...where are you from?

Do you remember Wagner before he got in the league? He was a stud and a blue chip prospect in every sense of the word.

Dude averaged 13.4 points 3 assists, and only 1.8 turnovers a game despite him being only 19 as a rookie in the league and having the ball in his hands most of the time he was on the court. He had the work ethic and the talen level to become a star. Some people just have that "it" and Wagner dripped of it. While people may be mad over the Arenas comparison it is a good one. Arenas is hands down the better shooter. But Wagner was a better ball handler and the better slasher. Wagner was fearless going to the rim and could finish in traffic with contact. Wagner was an iso nightmare even in his rookie year. His strength and first step were hard to stop. And he was a very heady player as evidenced by him being a rookie combo guard who didn't even averaged 2 turnovers as a 19 year old rookie.

Wagner still got Memphis' single season scoring record which he broke as a freshman after averaged 21 points a game as a freshman. All the great guards that have played under John Cal Wagner was the first, and actually the most productive in his one and done year.

He was working out at A.T.T.A.C.K.S. during the predraft workout process.

I kno he is trying to get back in the league. Golden State gave him a look I know he had a good pre season for them and then got 7 minutes for them came in hit a 3 got failed a scored 4 points and an assists in 7 minutes and never played again....Somebody figure out Don Nelson for me.

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Drew Neitzel former guard

Drew Neitzel former guard from msu

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It has to be Drew Lavender

It has to be Drew Lavender and Ronald Ramon from Pitt.

Lavender was so good and so small lol.

Ronald Ramon was a good player at Pitt. He could shoot the deep ball and was super clutch. He also was an underrated shot creator for himself and others.

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I will have to say Reggie

I will have to say Reggie Freeman from Texas

Eddie Griffin was a sad situation

Wagner could have been a beast if not for that illness

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Ooh tough one here are a few

Ooh tough one here are a few of my faves:

Steve Logan, Kenny Satterfield, and Pete Mickael- all Cinci 1998-2000 era

Ademola Okulaja, Kris Lang, Jackie Manuel, David Noel- UNC

Jason Gardner, Michael Wright, Chris Rodgers- Arizona

BJ Elder, Marvin Lewis, Is'Mail Muhammed- Georgia Tech

Eric Williams, Justin Gray- Wake Forest

Chris McCray, John Gilchrist- Maryland

Chris Carrawell, Nate James, William Avery- Duke

Carl Krauser, Chevon Troutman, Chris Taft- Pitt

Chris Thomas, Torin Francis- Notre Dame

Reece Gaines- Louisville

Taliek Brown, Rashad Anderson, Albert Mourning, Edmund Saunders- UCONN

Aaron Miles, Keith Langford- Kansas

Romain Sato- Xavier

Chris Klack, Brandon Mouton- Texas

Sean Ogirri, PJ Cousinard- Wichita State

Kyle Hines- Winthrop

Casey Calvary- Gonzaga

Marcellus Somerville- Bradley

Osiris Eldridge- Illinois State

Will Conroy, Bobby Jones, Tre Simmons- UW

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Im from the DMV

James White Kevin Lyde and Chris McCray come to mind immediatley......James could flat out fly and McCray had stupid game in High School....

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Luke Jackson

I'm from the same town and grew up a mile from Luke Jackson's house. He came to some of my high school games. He's one of the few in state players that went to the University of Oregon. I went to one of Oregon's NIT games against Colorado I think. He scored like 30 in a row or something crazy like that and I thought he would be a stud.

I really wish he wouldn't have hurt his back because I think it robbed him of some of his athleticism. I think he could've been an excellent backup to Lebron and maybe even a legitimate scoring threat next to him. Too bad

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Some still have a chance but

Ali Farokhmanesh/ Len Bias/ Dajaun Wagner/ Earl Manigault/ Dionte Christmas/ Kyle Hines

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Curt"trouble" smith-Washington dc

Ask any top streetballer in you're city who has played along the eastcoast who he is,also ask any NBA player you know who has played in the famed urbo coalition or berry farms leauge.  Think Allen iverson with a much better jump shot,a better handles,less athletic

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toby bailey from ucla. He had

toby bailey from ucla. He had a huge freshman year and dropped 25 in the national title game helping lead the bruins to the championship. A lot of people were talking about him coming out after his freshman year for the draft where he might have gone 1st round. BUt he stuck around college for 4 years and just didnt show much improvement. He got tryouts with a bunch of teams in the elague, but never really catched on with anyone. Limited jumper, ball handling.

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Shawne Williams. Wayyy too

Shawne Williams. Wayyy too many off the court screw-ups.

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RONNIE FIELDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

biggest shame that he never made it he is one of the best HS players I have ever seen...

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Ronnie Fields, good

Ronnie Fields, good call....luckily I got to see him live once before his car crash. KG was a senior, Fields was a junior, and they lost in the quarterfinals downstate to Thornton. Melvin Ely was a sophomore on that Thornton team. Couldn't believe that a high school team with both KG and Ronnie Fields wouldn't win state, but that Thornton team was legit.

One ridiculous thing about that Thornton team was the D1 talent they had. Tai Streets former NFL WR, Antwan Randle El NFL WR, Napolean Harris NFL LB, Melvin Ely NBA vet....their team was sick. Randle El was certified at PG.

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Thornton

I would hardly call Thornton "downstate" but yeah they were bad ass....many people thought Fields was the best player on that team....

Watch out for the latest product out of Thornton Reggie Smith.....he will be a freshman at Marquette this year.....I think he could win the NBA dunk contest....

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gerald green, maybe not a

gerald green, maybe not a favorite but somebody i thought could be an exciting player. i like the steve logan pick. i wish darrell arthur was better. sebastian telfair i thought was going to be a good point guard. and darius washington seemed destined for great things.

this list can go on almost forever.

lester hudson was a big name on this site for awhile. i liked deron washington too atleast as a defender and spark off the bench.

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Pepe Sanchez! I loved him in

Pepe Sanchez! I loved him in college and thought he would be a solid pro. Though he wasn't the best scorer, he was the definition of a point guard. He had good size, a flair for the dramatic and just knew how to put people in position to score. He led the Argentine team to a gold medal as the starting point guard. He wasn't the most athletic but he just knew how to play the game. I think Juan Fernandez is going to end up being Pepe with a jump shot so I'm excited to see how he performs this year. Watch out for him, I see him being a first rounder in 2012.

On a more personal note, I really hope that Stephen Dennis makes it to the league. Played in high school with the kid and he's really developed and I think he could eventually play in the league.

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Downstate refers to the high

Downstate refers to the high school basketball tournament, no sh*t Thornton isn't located downstate. Downstate means you made it to that final weekend of the tournament.

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Can people recall Sun Ming

Can people recall Sun Ming Ming a 7ft 9ins C from China who was in the mix for the 2005 draft until his workout with the Lakers highlighted his lack of conditioning and highlighted a tumour in his pituitity gland which had caused his giantism. He had this removed and went onto play in various minor leagues and even had a role in Rush Hour 3.

The thought that he could have been considered the next Yao Ming always amused me and if the Lakers had decided to take a punt on him in the 2005 draft maybe even with the 10th pick where they eventually took Andy Bynum then I wonder how soon Kobe would have been out of the Lakers or to have seen Kareem trying to teach Sun the fundamentals of the game.

John Riek of Mississippi State was also once talked about as being the next great defensive big man and on the back of the development of Hasheem Thabeet, he was probably seen as another African player who could come to the NCAA and learn the game but in effect he has been described as being like a big lump of clay. He had one of the longest ever wingspans recorded but apparently has very poor fundamental skills in the game and may well be much older than stated.

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Levance Fields- Pitt

Levance Fields- Pitt

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Sean Williams, Boston

Sean Williams, Boston College, loved his athleticism, length, and shot-blocking...turns out he's just another punk kid who can't keep his nose clean :(

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Levance Fields and Guillermo

Levance Fields and Guillermo Diaz at Miami and Tryese Rice

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my bad

sorry Uncle Buck I read it wrong.....on to the next Thornton phenom, Marquette frosh Reggie Smith....

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lets try again

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well whatever

it didn't work so youtube him yourself...

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