Your "Favorite Bust" (no homo of course)
Everyone on this site has to some extent done some type of scouting. Whether it be legit and actually going to games, or something as simple as analyzing a player through his statistics or even just basing your thoughts off of Nbadraft.net's player profiles. No one is always 100% correct on their corrections. Sometimes a guy you think will turn out to be bust actually develops into a solid, or even all start caliber player or maybe there was a player whose hype you didn't believe yet they surpassed everyones expectations and became amongst the NBA's elite; then other times there are guys you just have a feeling they will be the next Kobe, Jordan, Shaq, Duncan, etc. yet they fail miserably.
Now I am pretty sure that all of the users on this website has had that one past prospect who you just knew had it all the makings to be great and would go as far as stating that this guy would be the next big thing. All of us have different views as to who the "perfect" prospect might be. I for example am more prone to favoring athletic swing men as my prospects of choice. Others might prefer points guards, shooting guards, etc.
But ALL of us had that ONE (or whatever number) guy, that one prospect who you believed would eventually make that leap into superstardom but never did. It happens every year, but who is that one guy YOU thought would transcend into that level but never did?
I've had it happen to me just about every year since I've been following basketball. Some guys that come to guy Jay Williams, Eddie Griffin, Shaun Livingston... just some random names I just thought of.
My pick: Jonathan Bender: Bender was the 5th overall pick in the 1999 NBA Draft. I had always been a huge NBA fan, but it was around that time when I had just begun really paying attention to the draft and the prospects and scouting. From a physical standpoint this guy had it all. A 7 foot tall small forward with the athleticism of a player much smaller than he, a feathery smooth jump shot with range extending out beyond the 3pt line and the handles of a guard. He set a Mcdonalds All American Game scoring record with 31 points prior to the draft. Of course, coming out of high school he would need his time to develop, and I was just so sure that once he did nothing would stop him from taking over the NBA. On a loaded Pacer team that included guys like Jermaine O'neal, Reggie Miller, Jalen Rose, Al Harrington, Ron Artest... All Star Jermaine O'Neal described Bender as the "most talented player on the team". (http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/bender_page_0405.html) As we all know, his career didn't quite pan out, injuries to his knees being the primary reason, but as long as he was in the NBA and healthy, I was just waiting for this guy to take over. He didn't and his career was cut short... but till this day, despite all the other prospects ("busts" if I may) he is still that one guy who was my favorite prospect yet his career didn't work out. “Of all the guys I’ve ever seen in this league, in 20-plus years, in terms of basketball ability he’s in the top 1 or 2 percent,”. A statement made by Rick Carlisle as he was an assistant coach when Bender used to play for the Pacers.
We've all had one. Who was your favorite "bust"??? This is topic I feel that just makes everyone realize that as much as they think they know about the NBA draft and prospects no one is every really sure. Guys can have all the talent in the world but sometimes it just doesn't work out. Don't tell me all the busts that the NBA has had because I know pretty much all of them, just talk about who your favorite prospect was who never really lived up to expectations.
I gotta say Tyrus Thomas.. Although I still think he can really do something in the league. He played very well defensively vs the Celtics in that epic series 2 years back
i always mention jerome moiso when bringing up guys i though would be stars in the league. He played 2 years at ucla. Was 6-11 could run the court like a sf. Had a sweet stroke out to 20 feet. Had good agile post moves. Very skilled. But he also could get up and bang on guys and swat shots into the seats. He never really exploded in college, but i thought all the tools were there. Obviously some scouts did as well since he went in the lottery and was given chances by about 3-4 teams in his brief NBA career. He was just too mentally soft. He would get the ball and immediately look to pass if his defender cut off his first move. He never forced anything and thats not good for a big man who wants to carve out space down low and make his impact felt.
1.Dajuan Wagner-My fav HS prospect I have coveted since watching ball. 100pts in a game speaks volumes by itself. If it were not for the Colitis he and LeBron would have been a crazy tandem in Cleveland.
2.DerMarr Johnson-He was the man!!!!!! I watched every Cincy game just to see him play. I think he should have made the jump out of HS, because he would have been a Top 5 pick off potential alone. The biggest thing I hate about his situation was that car accident, because Hotlanta was his to own.
3.DeShawn Stevenson-I really fell in love with his potential from watching him in the Mickey D's Game, I honestly thought he would become a star and a human highlight reel every time he took the court. Boy ol' Boy has he been my biggest disappointment.
Two that come to mind for me are Trajan Langdon (#11) & William Avery (#14) in the 1999 Draft. Langdon has found some success playing overseas, but could just never seem to cut in the NBA game. He was a lights out shooter in college, and I figured that would translate well to the NBA. William Avery fell off the face of the earth. He was a legit 6'2-6'3" PG. I have been a huge Blue Devils fan my whole life, and always loved the way they played. Langdon was one of my favorite collegiate players of all time. I thought they would both be great in the league. Let's just say i was a little off.
I don't even have to explain this one
I don't think you can say Wagner and Jay Williams are busts. Getting hurt doesn't make you a bust.
Shaun Livingston... If only he hadnt had that injury.. i really think he would have been something very special
i dont think wagner would have been a star had he stayed healthy. His game just didnt translate well to being a star in the nba. Even his rookie year when he hads lots of freedom and played 30 minutes a night he shot 37% from the field. COnsidering scoring was the only thing he did all that well and he was undersized and didnt have iverson type speed, i think wagner would have been a career 6th man probably simialr to waht nate robinson is. Jay will on the other hand i think would have been a star.
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If it didnt, greg oden wouldnt be a bust, or shaun livingston, jonathan bender or olowokandi and alot more. If players hadn't been injured we could only imagine what could have been.. but the thing is, they did get injured, they never produced as much as they should have. Injuries are part of the game. And being a bust, is about not producing how much the expectations the other people put on you. no matter what you did or how you did it.
As luck may have it i found a great article on livingston on slam online check it out yall
plus i like eddy curry and kwame
for dhamp- eric devendorf. lol
my list of guys i thought would be solid starters or superstars. alot of hs guys.
jr smith- when i heard vince carter hops with jj reddick shooting, i thought superstar.
robert swift- i thought he would be a good starter in the league, like 12 and 8.
sebastian telfair- i thought he would be like rondo is now but a little better shooting, i was wrong.
emeka okafor- i thought he was gonna be alonzo mourning 2.0.
deshawn stevenson- thought he was gonna be mj 2.0. lol, no that was nbadraft.net. everyone is wrong sometimes.
and of course guys that got injured include greg oden, jay williams, dajuan wagner, and demarr johnson.
Just imagine how insane the NBA would be if everyone panned out like they should've
How are JR Smith and Emeka Okafor busts? Emeka Okafor is averaging a double double for his career and JR Smith is an erratic but very talented player. Emeka might not have lived up to being an all-star lock every year for a #2 pick, but he is a solid big man in the league. JR Smith is good enough to be a sixth man on pretty much any team in the league and even start on some. Yeah, he is a head case, but that doesn't make him a bust. Also, if Emeka Okafor is a bust, then what is Hasheem Thabeet? 0.o Players might not live up their expectations or their picks, but that doesn't necessarily make them busts especially when they end up as solid players. Every lottery pick can't be an all-star or superstar player. A bust is a guy like Kwame Brown or Hasheem Thabeet.
Rashad McCants and Tyrus Thomas were the two guys who I thought were destined for stardom. I didn't think anyone could guard McCants and that Tyrus was going to be an Amare like finisher. Both way off.
I thought he could be serviceable, like a decent starter or first big off the bench. 12-8 type dude.
Ike Diogu, Keon Clark, Luke Jackson, and Randy Foye
I would've liked to see Gerald Green succeed. I remember thinking he would be a star after watching the Micky D's game. That's when I realized you can't make observations about a player's future on All-Star games
@stF616, that's why I don't think those players are busts. A bust is someone like Eddy Curry.
Anyone who uses the term "no homo" is gayer than any gay person that has ever existed. Also they probably have a pretty tiny weener, thus leaving them feel so emotionally challenged they need to say such very unintelligent and ignorant things.
yaroslav korolev...no homo
"Also they probably have a pretty tiny weener, thus leaving them feel so emotionally challenged they need to say such very unintelligent and ignorant things."
LOL. I do agree, it's always been lame to say that to me. It usually is said after something that's not even thought to be gay, which makes it worse. I just found your last statement funny.
I am not a huge "no homo" fan but the title was "your favorite bust" which actually made the no homo comment kind of funny. Find time to smile not hate sudds.
"Anyone who uses the term "no homo" is gayer than any gay person that has ever existed. Also they probably have a pretty tiny weener, thus leaving them feel so emotionally challenged they need to say such very unintelligent and ignorant things."
I wholeheartedly agree.
Yeah it is a draft forum/site so the word "bust" doesnt need to be followed by nohomo...now if this was the livejasmin forums on the other hand............................................
Don't you hate when that pops up when you're on you&$#%#&@!z.com? haha jp
I prefer the term "No Amaechi"
May I start out by stating that this is my favorite post I've seen probably since I first joined this site. Thats besides that point though. I will however only pick players from before this whole "one and done" era.
My favorite NBA busts
One of them has got to be Darko, as a #2 overall pick yes he is a bust. He is only 25 years old though and is showing that he is capable of playing a little bit of defense. I do believe he is leading the league in blocked shots.
Martell Webster, to be fair he is a bust he came out of HS and I believe was compared to Ray Allen. I really wanted to see this guy succeed when he was in Portland but he was drafted when the team was a disaster and I think it may have stumped his growth, but I could be wrong.
Gerald Green, as stated earlier...enough said. I think this is one guy everyone wants to see back in the league, he stole our hearts with highlight reel dunks
.The 3 centers that were the same player by the Super Sonics in 2006, 2005, and 2004 Saer Sene, Johan Petro, and Robert Swift(white version)
Also pretty much the entire 2001 and 2000 lottery picks. excluding a select few
^^^^^^ Thank you!!! Honestly, I did spend a lot of time thinking out this post and I thought... hey, why not try to add a little laughter to the forum?? But nooooo, geez, some people just take things too seriously : / I mean come on.. the name of this forum is "favorite bust" haha.oh wells, sorry to anyone I offended just try and focus on the topic of the forum and not the tittle!
Kim kardashian sure is lucky getting to hook up with kris humphries fine a.ss (no homo).
See, sometimes (no homo) is neccessary otherwise my statement might have sounded gay.
Kris Humphries isn't that attractive...
But give me a piece of Ricky Rubio...
uhm, you forgot to add (no homo) nomoney...
That Spanish stallion...
I also thought Nik Tskitishvilli would turn out to be really good based on the few highlight vids I saw of him.
GERALD GREEN, DARKO MILICIC, ADAM MORRISON
mcdunkin i thought i was the only guy from this site that viewed live jasmine...my favorites are xxblackqueen and xxschoolgirl
"Kim kardashian sure is lucky getting to hook up with kris humphries fine a.ss (no homo).
See, sometimes (no homo) is neccessary otherwise my statement might have sounded gay."
That statement is gay either way lol.
Where I'm from, if people think you're gay than you're suddenly the coolest kid in school.
Been that way since the glory days of David Bowie and Mick Jagger.
Ruuuuuudeboy ....(in my Denzel Washington voice) my man
Sometimes i like to watch xxxasianchick and xxxblackqueen while i listen to black and yellow by wiz khalifa....or was that too much info?
Delicious irony that the man in your gif is actually gay.
I forgot about that money...NPH gets a straight pass though in my book
I was pretty hyped when the Jazz drafted Kirk Snyder. I remember in interviews he matter of factly said, "I'm going to be rookie of the year." I wanted to believe him. That didn't happen, obviously.
Joe Smith is often called a bust, but he has had a long, solid career. He clearly didn't live up to his #1 overall pick hype, but has been a useful big man and is in his 15th year.
If injuries weren't such a problem, I think Luke Jackson could have been a much better player.
I'm gonna say bust means that the player didn't rise to the level you were hoping the player rose too.
First off my hometown bias the Camden Messiah Dejuan Wagner was on his way to stardom. Yeah he only shot 37% his rookie year but he also averaged over 13 points per game and was only 19. There is a different between speed and quickness and while Wagner wasn't blazing fast, he was built sturdy and strong and really hit the holes fast and hard and he did that relentlessly with the ball in his hands. Gilbert Arenas is the kind of career i think he could of had had he not got sick. His shot was really coming along.
Eddie Griffin (r.i.p.) I thought he should of went one in that draft. He had all the tools in the world. Was 6;10 with a 7'5 wingspan and a shot blocking and rebounding phenom who also had developing perimeter skills and was a deadly 3 point shooter. This guy was lights out from beyond the arc and swatted everything near him. It' sad he suffered from the personal demons he did because he had the opportunity to really change the game.
Adam Morrison really disapointed me. He was so crafty and had such a mean streak I don;t know how he is not in this league. Like dude ain;t even in the league! WTF?> He couldn't make the Wizards really?
Darius Miles too people hyped him up to be the next Dr. J. I was excited to see how good he could get. Well it wasn;t great.
Micheal Sweetney and Marcus Fizer round my list off. Thought Sweetney was going to be a poor man's Elton Brand and dude hit every shot he took in college and a lot of them were difficult and contested.
And Marcus Fizer was a beast...That guys body was something else. His body looked sculpted. I often wanted to run my fingers around his his biceps wit spit on my fingers no homo.
I will never forget Dicky V berating the Sixers for drafting Iggy over Luke Jackson saying what a mistake they made and this and that....look how that turned out.
Is that a po.rn site?
I never thought he'd be great, but he was terrible in the NBA. Even at the 21st pick he was a bust.
Nikoloz Tskitishvili was the guy who first sprag to mind, a top 5 pick but out of the NBA soon after his rookie contract. Also Mohammed Sene taken 10th by GSW in 2006 due to his insane length and little else is a contender.