Young Point Guards' ceilings
What would you say would be the career best statlines for each of the following young (Point Guards?
Just wondering because it is quickly becoming a very very deep position and its getting to the point where it will be impossible to say who is the best one. I believe we all have sort of an idea of where D.Rose, Westbrook and a few others might be headed but these are three who have shown a good deal of improvement this year.
ty for me will have the best career out of the three.. denver are heading the right way.. but i think his and jennings ceiling isnt much the higher the way is it now. maybe TY best is just 19pts 3.5rebs, 8.5 asts. 2stls. and that is the best out of this three. (for me.)
Lawson 1 then Holiday then Jennings.
First of all Lawson is the most efficient of them all. He shoots a great percentage from the FT line and is great from the floor. He has a low turnover rate. He's the msot athletic, and arguably the best shooter.
The one category that he is not best in is defense. He is a passable defender but the fact that he is small sort of takes him out of the contest. Holiday will be the best defender IMO.
Holiday has the top ceiling or most potential, Lawson is the smartest player, best player, and will most likely remain the best out of the three, and Jennings is the most skilled although does not have great court awareness. Id choose Holiday for my team for defensive purposes.
Lawson in my opinion will have the best career, he's already proved that he is a very proficient passer. His scoring is incredibly efficient as well... Holliday will always be a great defender, IMO he has the best combination of size/quickness/power of the three. He is still developing offensively but his jumper has shown real improvement.. Jennings I have never really liked as a player. Takes a lot of shots for a poor percentage (low 40s) and doesn't have the ability to run an offense like holliday and Lawson. His defense is underrated though in my opinion, with his quickness has become very good at picking opposing pg's pockets and guarding 1 on 1...
Jrue is the youngest and can only get better, he is 6'4 210 about and he always ays he models his game after Deron Williams, i can see the potential but he has to become a better passer. He has all the moves and is a great defender
Brandon Imo is a straight up beast, but he is very small and he reminds me of Terrell Brandon, i think the bucks need a go to scorer becuase brandon is a quick and crafty PG
1. Brandon Jennings has the highest ceiling IMO, but he really hasn't gotten much stronger since he 1st got to the NBA and he will never reach his true potential until he does. He will never be efficient until he gets stronger or the Bucks get better offensive players so he can be more of a true PG.
2. Right now Lawson is the best because he's super efficient, which is quite a feat given that he's small and plays the game at a high speed just about all the time. He has an unbelievable feel for the game for a guy with his size and speed level. He is rarely ever out of control or mistake prone and has one of the higher IQ's of any players in the NBA. He is somewhat limited as a long-term player in terms of being an elite PG because of his size though, I think. He won't have the assist numbers I don't think, but he does make his teammates better. Stats will matter to most though.
3. Jrue Holiday plays great D at the PG spot, which is a feat within itself because hands down the PG spot is the toughest to contain because just about every PG is either quick with great handle or strong with great handle. Holiday is a good pick and roll player and he is a bigger PG with solid quickness and athleticism. He also is a decent shooter. He's also not a high assist guy and he's still learning the position, but he can be like a Chauncey Billups-type at best (in his prime)
It has to be Jrue in my opinion.
He's got very good size for a PG. He's an elite level defender in my eyes. You rarely see him making mistakes and he's definetly got a handle (see the nasty spin moves on drives). To those who question his passing, you clearly don't watch him much. His APG numbers are low, but as stated before, it's a product of playing with multiple playmaking-type players (Iggy, Turner, Hawes, Young). Shooting and scoring aren't issues; he's accurate from deep and knows how to get to the rim. He can hit to boards as well. I don't really see a true weakness in his game.
Personally, I don't think it's over-the-top, but I think eventually he could become the next Gary Payton. I'm that high on him.
I said the same thing on another thread in regards to Jrue/Glove comparison. In order for Jrue to be a star, there will have to be some moves made however. Playing with the two "point fowards" definitely takes away from his ballhandling. If it werent for that, he would be a very good assist guy, maybe not double figures but definitely above 7.
Lawson is in the best position. There were concessions made for him, such as moving Billups and Felton because Lawson was the guy that the Nuggets have seen the future in.
Holiday has the higher ceiling, but Lawson's career barring injury will be very good.
Jennings has as much natural talent as any player...but he has a lot more areas to work on in his game than the other two. Particularly IQ and shooting.
His performance in the playoffs last year shows exactlly what type of character he is. If he had more spot up shooters and a differnt offense more suited for his game you would see exactly what he could do. Right now lawson and jennings have the key to their teams
Jrue Holliday-19 ppg 5.5 assists and 4 or 5 rebounds type of statline for most of his career with his best season 23 ppg, 7 assists and 6 rebounds for his career
Brandon Jennings- I think his best season will be 22 ppg with 7.5 assists, 4 rebounds and 2 steals and he'll average about 20 ppg 6 assists, 3 rebounds and a steal for his career
Ty Lawson- I think he can average 18 ppg with 8 assists for a good part of his career and his best season will be a bit better than it is now.
I think Kyrie Irving will be a 20 ppg and 8.5 assists player for his career and be a Chris Paul type player and potential perennial allstar
Rubio will average about 15 ppg and 10 assists one day as well