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You all must not understand that the meaning of UNRESTRICTED

Everyone keeps bringing u....If ( Insert team ) Does sign and trade to send ( 2010 top FA ) it works.

You realize LBJ, Wade, Bosh, Amare all can say F' their teams and not do a sign and trade. being unrestricted means they can sign where ever they want.

SO HERE IS THE POINT....why would a team do a sign and trade if they can just pay that FA and not give up anything.......THINK CHILDREN!


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You're right, but *you're*

You're right, but *you're* missing a key point also... They can get up to $30 million more if they do a sign and trade.

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OMg your retarded

OMg your retarded people!!!!!!! that means that team has to give up $30 million more in cap room.....SO why not just not do a sign and trade and get him for a lower price........THINK CHILDREN, for TWO SECONDS!!

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OMg your retarded

OMg your retarded people!!!!!!! that means that team has to give up $30 million more in cap room.....SO why not just not do a sign and trade and get him for a lower price........THINK CHILDREN, for TWO SECONDS!!

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No need for name calling. You

No need for name calling. You just make yourself look like a 12-year-old when you do that. It might be because Bosh or LeBron or D-Wade or whoever might want more money, especially with the new CBA coming up. After all, the free agent is the center of attention in a free agent signing.

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Weren't you a member of UK's

Weren't you a member of UK's staff?

Anyway, I would use 30 more mil of cap space to keep a LBJ, Wade and Bosh.

Also, wouldn't it only effect that season's cap number?

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Tim, I see your point completely. It doesn't make sense to give up all of that extra money if you have the caproom to sign a guy straight up. Though I think one of the big things is that the extra money from the sign and trade could be what cements a guys decision to come over. No one wants to go from one job to another and lose money when they know they are due for some pretty massive raises. I know if I'm running the team and I can find a way to clear money for a Lebron or Wade this year then I do it if that means I get the guy. The big thing is what do I have to give up to do that and is it really going to be worth it.

What is really stupid is when a team that can offer a guy way more money than everyone else outbids themselves (i.e., Wizards and Arenas).

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What is really stupid is when

What is really stupid is when a team that can offer a guy way more money than everyone else outbids themselves (i.e., Wizards and Arenas).

When did Washington do this? If I'm correct, Arenas took less money to tell Washington get some FA's.

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Still am part of the Staff,

Still am part of the Staff, btw i think knicks u were the one doubting me when i was telling you guys 5 guys could enter the draft during the preseason when the freshmen showed up on campus.

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lmao @ tim, he jumped like

lmao @ tim, he jumped like he3 knew what he was talking bout

check this, unrestricted...means the player can go anywhere but it wouldnt be a TRUE max contract seeing that the team that the player belongs too can only get top dollar if that team is to sign him

but if the player dont wanna be there instead of giving the player up for nothing they do a sign and trade to get pieces out of said max player!

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LOL, all 5 of them are in the

LOL, all 5 of them are in the draft but only 3 should be. Orton and Bledsoe made mistakes.

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Montrell, okay so that means

Montrell, okay so that means Wade, Amare, LBJ etc. are all going to do sign and trades? think dude come on now.

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Tim... You have a lack of

Tim... You have a lack of understanding about sign and trades, etc. You actually had the nerve to come on here calling everybody retarded when you don't know what you're talking about.

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I still called it tho,

I still called it tho, Bledsoe was never considered a draft prospect this year. But i told all yall this kid was for real.

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Arenas took less than the max

Arenas took less than the max maybe but no one could have offered anything close to the max at the time. I know Orlando is rethinking overpaying Lewis when they were bidding against themselves.

I dont think that many sign and trades will happen. I mean Lebron and Wade took a shorter deal the first time and lost money doing so but gained flexibility. They may wind up taking shorter deal again. The new CBA will probably not affect the guys considered to be the top players. Joe Johnson and Amare may feel it but Wade and Lebron will not. Teams will always try to break the bank to get them until they get over 34 or 35. What CBA deal could they propose to keep Lebron, Wade, and Kobe from making close to what they are making now. The CBA deal will effect the middle guys and role players and maybe some guys that are just a few short of super star like Bosh.

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How so Butler? I understand

How so Butler? I understand what ur trying to say. they can get a max deal out of a sign and trade but if they go without a sign and trade it is less money. Or not do a sign and trade go to that team, have money left over for another free agent, still keep the players that were about to be traded and have a team, restructure the contract for a opt out after 3 years and up the max money after those 3 years.

Ummm yup i have no understanding how this should work right butler?

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I thought Bledsoe would have

I thought Bledsoe would have a good season, it would've been interesting to see how well he could play the point guard position, if he went to a team that didn't have John Wall.

I agree there's a good reason for a lot of of free agents to not do a sign and trade, but if they want to go to a team like the Lakers, or Mavs, they need to do a sign and trade.

I also think that 30 extra million factor is overblown, i mean if they cared that much about money they could play in Europe.

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I just don't understand you.

I just don't understand you. The only player who's name I've heard come up in a sign and trade to a team under the cap is Chris Bosh. I've heard rumors about the Knicks and Raptors doing a sign and trade between Bosh and David Lee.

The only time I've heard other free-agents' names brought up in sign and trades has been when it was involving a team that's already over the cap. Or in a situation like if Chicago was to sign LeBron outright (they only have enough for one max deal free-agent) and then do a sign and trade with Toronto to acquire Bosh.

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Why are people so mad on here

Why are people so mad on here lately?? sandy vag is going around

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Either sandy vag or blue

Either sandy vag or blue waffle. It could be the weather. People tend to get a bit irritated when it gets warmer, especially those who live in their angry step-dad's basement eating Eggo waffles all day with no air conditioning.

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For those who dont know: Blue

For those who dont know:

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everybody go look up larry

everybody go look up larry bird rights.. and how they pertain to free agency... this will clear up everything tim has said...

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I needed to know that......

I needed to know that......

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