THIS YEAR'S DARREN COLLINSON
With my topic being said, which PG do you think will be overshadowed/slide in the draft and will have a breakout year like Collinson?
I think Eric Bledsoe will have a year like Collinson, for the fact that he is under the most pressure to prove what he has going for him, other than the top prospects in the draft. He may slide in the draft he may not, but he has to show that he is capable of running the 1 in the league.
I have no idea why Bledsoe has not moved up but I have heard he could go to Memphis at 12 which does not seems so bad. I doubt he falls pass Miami.
Not sure about Bledsoe. It sounds like he would struggle to get minutes again with the PG coming into Kentuky which is one of the reasons he left. A 6'1" guard that wants to play the 2 more than the 1 isn't my pick
Who do you think will have a breakout year like Darren Collinson and shock us all??????
Why can't he be like Holiday who played 1 in high school and was good but had to play 2 guard in college because of Collison. Bledsoe seems like he can do more than just score. he had to score for Kentucky. That was his role because Wall was the point guard. I think he played well when Wall was not on the floor and maybe got a decent amout of assists. He may be a Collison then. People will wonder why he did not go higher. This happens all the time.
Collison spent 4 years at UCLA and led them to 2 final fours as a starter. He was proven in college and was a polished player all around. Everyone knew he would be a solid player, but there was questions around his upside, size and his ability to get off his shot. He was put in a situation in NO where he could play his game and rack up great stats, but it's not really like his game improved that much from his senior year in UCLA to his rookie year in the NBA.
Bledsoe on the other hand has not played minutes at the point since highschool, spent one year in college and is not anywhere near the player Collison was when he came out of college. I don't think he's ready yet to put up 19-9 as a starter at all.
On a thread before I threw out the Holiday high school comparison, only because they both played the 1 and converted in college to the 2, and I got chewed up with the negative points.
This draft is a weak PG draft compared to last year, there might only be about 6 total PGs drafted in this class, and last year there were 12 in the first round alone..
but i can see a guy like Grievis Vasquez surprising alot of people, he lakcs the athleticism, but he makes up for it in alot of different areas
Also Sherron Collins can have a Ty Lawson-like season, as a point guard that comes off the bench to bring energy
Just to name a few guys besides Bledsoe or Johnson...
Shylo that happens. It happens to me all the time. I really dont get it. How is Bledsoe so different?
Also since when is games of constantly getting 20 and 10+ just putting up numbers.
I am sure other teams would love for their point guards to just put up numbers.
Collison put up numbers compared to Chris Paul who is a top 3 point guard.
If he was the same player in college that he was his rookie year all the GM's that passed on him need to lose their job.
You have to realize that Collinson was considered a lottery pick after his sophomore year..But for reasons unknown decided to remain at UCLA and his stock dropped..Brackins could've been a lottery pick last year..This year he's going to fall to the late 1st round....
Unlike Collison who we had seen play for 3 years..The points guards in this year's draft are only freshmen and haven't spent much time running their teams...Both Bledsoe & Avery Bradley have hugh potential...But also have huge questions about them...Bradley had a sub-par year at Texas but the thing thats working for him is the fact scouts compare him to Monta Ellis...And for Bledsoe i've heard him compared to Tim Hardaway and some people say he might be another Darrius Washington who played at Memphis a few years ago...
I think a guy thats going to surprise alot of people is Jerome Dyson from U Conn..He has great penetrating skills a decent outside shot..But needs to work on his playmaking skills...
Collins should be solid but he is a second round guy and career backup. Lawson looks to maybe be able to play a starting role for certain teams.
Vaquez is talented and if he game can translate over he will be a versatile guy to come off the bench but he is a defensive liability. I don't think he has the quickness or athleticism to defend any position in the NBA. That will hurt him.
Rudeboy, whey is Bledsoe not getting the same kind of love that a lot of other point guard prospects got when they were younger. Collison stock dropped as he stay longer but Bledsoe stock would have gone up if he stayed. How is that? Shouldnt his stock after playing well next to Wall who is a elite player be up.
Rudeboy, why is Bledsoe not getting the same kind of love that a lot of other point guard prospects got when they were younger. Collison stock dropped as he stay longer but Bledsoe stock would have gone up if he stayed. How is that? Shouldnt his stock after playing well next to Wall who is a elite player be up.
Bledsoe could be a solid starting pg down the road but right now i think hes too inexperienced and not a good enough decision maker to get enough minutes to break out. Vasquez really seems like the one guard that could be a key contributor for someone as a 2nd rounder.
Overall in the draft I think Brackins is the guy that that a lot of teams are going to regret passing on much like collison, blair and thornton last year. I think he'll become more of the guy from his soph year at isu when he stayed aggressive and wasnt facing double teams every time he touched the ball
I agree about Brackins and I have him in my 1st rd on my mock
For 1 thing unlike alot of other young guards Bledsoe wasn't heavily recruited like some of those other guys..Scouts saw those guys when they were in 10th grade..Bledsoe improved his stock last summer in camps..Plus while he was at Kentucky he played shooting guard..And both he & Wall seem to have trouble running the team in a half court setting..Another year would've boosted his stock to maybe top 5 next year...
I think Jerome Dyson will surprise people when he gets to the NBA. He might not be a 1st round pick, but I think he is just as talented as most of the higher rank PGs in this draft.
i think vasquez and bledsoe could do some work in the nba only thing is that they get on a team where they can play. Since they will be later round picks they might get on better teams who dont need them as much so their numbers wont be there. but if they fall to the beginning of the second round to a bad team they might get more play time. i dont think collins will do anything in the nba
I agree about bledsoe staying another year he woulda almost certainly been a lottery pick. I dont get why people come out knowing that if they stay another year they could end up making millions more doesnt make sense
the reason bledsoes stock isnt as high as it couldve been is because he had a high turnover rate kind of symbolizing he might not be a good distributor. But he played off the ball and people want to see how he fairs being the 1 guard.
Bledsoe probably knew Brandon Knight was coming to Kentucky and figured another year of NOT playing pg would have only hurt his stock.
you mean Bledsoe and I doubt with the guys coming in that he would have not been stuck at the shooting guard position so his stock may be the highest now. Stephon Curry had a lot of turnovers in college. It takes point guards time but the thing is do they have the ability to make plays and Bledsoe looks like a playmaker to me. At worst he would be a more athletic Jameer Nelson.
i don't think you can truly project this until you see which players are going to which teams. a lot of collision's success was a result of being on a team that is built around having a point guard who can create and it helped that the point guard whom the team is built around was hurt for much of the season. so i think it is a situational type of thing for a lot of rookies. I think bledsoe has potential but not if he goes to a team that doesn't utilize a point guard as a focal point of their offense (atlanta comes to mind). where as if he goes to a team like boston or oklahoma city, he may step into a great situation that would be point guard friendly if rondo or westbrook gets banged up.
No PG in this class is capable of having a Darren Collison type rookie season, except maybe John Wall. And that's very unlikely too because he'll be playing with Arenas and Blatche.
Bledsoe needs to go to a team where he plays with a ball-dominant guard, or he needs to be a change of pace backup PG to a true starter. He's like a Kyle Lowry or Marcus Banks type guard who are all very athletic and quick, defend very tough, decent spot-up shooters, can't shoot off the dribble/no mid-range game, and are decent drive and dish PG's who don't have great decision making skills or great court vision to be legit starters.
Ideal locations for Bledsoe could be
12th pick to Memphis where he can play along Mayo who can the ball well.
18th pick t0 Miami if Wade stayso
Im puttin my money on Bledsoe as well, I really think he's going to be ok in the NBA
>Can shoot the ball fairly well
>6'1 192(Already strong enough)
>40 Inch Vert
And everybody knows he is quick and fast, and he also is a pass first PG in highschool he averaged 11assist, he just had to play out of position because of Wall, Bledsoe will be alright soon as he learns to play under more control