[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I had said before, Heat were going to win in 5.  Split on the road and win two at home, finish in ChiCity.

LeBron James showed great leadership in this game by taking the offensive and defensive load at the end of the 4th qtr and in overtime.  Not only that, the hustle by Wade and LeBron.  Did you guys see LeBron crawling for the ball trying to save it in the final seconds?   Rare to see a superstar getting his hands dirty.  Bosh has completely outplayed Boozer, who took a shot at him mostly because of jealously.  Bosh hit HUGE shots this game to help the Heat get the W.  Wade’s 3 KEY blocks swung the momentum as well.  The Chicago bench was supposed to be so much better, which it is, but Haslem, Miller, and Chalmers completely outplayed them in today’s game and for most of the series.

Anybody think Chicago wins another game this series?  Bosh, James, and Wade are playing with a championship on their mind while Chicago is simply trying to survive to see another game.

[cward23Participant]

D.Rose looks nothing like a MVP. Shooting horribly. As a matter of fact Rose and Westbrook were first and 2nd team all nba and both look nothing like they belonged on either team. Turnovers,bad shooting, these are the times when a true point guard that looks to pass first and has a jump shot would come in handy

[I May Be WrongParticipant]

Bulls thrive at Home they will win game 5… but Heat thrive at home as well so close out game in game 6. Tell you what though, the Heat are hated so much (as per my facebook lol) but they deserved this win. They play excellent Defense and made the shots down the strecth. And even the hustle plays, they went after like you said TO-23. I applaud the Heat’s playoff run because they have been legit

[KayjayParticipant]

Excellent defense, one just pulled away. This series was a toss up. And is still not over. I’m no longer underestimating the bulls.They are still monsters on the boards. And could make the difference for game 5.

[NJHooper95Participant]

Rose is a great player, but I dont think he is a great point guard by defintion. He has amazing ability, but he doesnt operate like paul, or williams. He is more of a scorer and throughout the playoffs he has shot the ball terribly, especially from three point range. If he is not scoring then he is not impacting the game because he is not an amazing passer and he is an average defender at best. 8-27 Tonight with 7 turnovers. He and Westbrook shoot just a little to much to be playing point. If they are taking all these shots from the point guard spot, how is the ball going to move?

[HaleParticipant]

Rose is just matched up against a super athletic defense that builds a wall in the paint and no one can spread the floor except Korver, so what is he supposed to do? He can’t take LeBron and Wade off the dribble every play and even if he could their are 3 other guys clogging the paint.

[EuroBallParticipant]

The play of Chris Bosh of lately has shown why he rated as the player he is. Bosh as of right now is the Second best PF in the league right now behind Dirk. Lebron James, what more can you say. He is clearly this best player in the league. I look at this guy and wonder why people compare him to anyone, he plays both ends of the court he’s a complete player now.  Miami and Dallas Round 2

[DanEboyParticipant]

This series is still not over…I still have to believe in my home team.

But, if the Bulls lose, this will be quite a learning experience for Rose. Jordan had to take his lumps from the Pistons, LeBron had to take his from the Celtics, it looks like Rose will have to take his from the Heat for a while.

He has played pretty bad as of late but it is because he is just trying too much and seems to have lost faith in his teammates. He is still only 22 and will learn form this playoffs to make him even better. 3 years from now he is going to be a beast once his shot is better and he gets a legit 2nd option on on the perimeter.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

DanEboy

"3 years from now he is going to be a beast once his shot is better and he gets a legit 2nd option on on the perimeter."

That’s what everybody said about LeBron and Wade.  They never got that legit 2nd option on the perimeter…

[NJHooper95Participant]

Bulls are in good shape for the future. Rose even though he is lacking in some areas, has shown that he is willing to put the hard work in the summer to become a better player. The bulls do need an upgrade on the permeter, and they might want to see if someone is crazy enough to trade for Boozer, before he gets old or hurt again.

[del90Participant]

Get rid of Boozer. Sign JR Smith.

[Dr. A-FodParticipant]

DRose is still a great player no matter how badly he is struggling right now. The fact of the matter is that the Heat are an extremely long and athletic team that basically walls of Rose’s drives to the basket making it harder and harder for him to do what he does best, score at the rim since Rose still doesn’t have a consistent outside jumpshot. Also, the Bulls are suffering from a lack of consistent second scorer. Boozer has only showed up in one game this series and the same goes for Luol. The fact that the Heat D can gameplan just to get the ball out of Rose’s hands and force their inconsistent supporting cast to score is huge. I think it will be an extremely tough task for the Bulls to bounce back in this series.

[Ghost01Participant]

That’s what everybody said about LeBron and Wade. They never got that legit 2nd option on the perimeter…

 

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Actually, Wade won the title with Shaq. And to your original post, Wade’s 12 point effort was hardly a "championship performance". This started and ended with Lebron. The Bulls played very poorly as well.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

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So you’re saying Wade diving for the ball and going into the camera crew, getting clutch blocks towards the end of the game, and stopping Rose for most of the game wasn’t a championship performance?  Cool story, bro.

"Actually, Wade won the title with Shaq"

I said, "That’s what everybody said about LeBron and Wade. They never got that legit 2nd option on the perimeter…"

Shaq isn’t a perimeter player.

[Ghost01Participant]

Right…but the same thing didnt happen with Lebron and Wade. The first 7 years of Lebron and Wades careers werent similar at all.

And Wade was bad this game. He had 2 nice blocks at the end. Congrats. Nice hustle. I never said he didnt want to win. But hes been a bigger scrub this series than Rose, . 5-16 with 14 points is not good for D Wade. Also, Wade was never really guarding D Rose, cool story "bro".

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

The same thing didn’t happen with LeBron and Wade?  Neither of them had enough help to win a ring, except the one year when Shaq wasn’t decayed yet.

You’re just hating on Wade, that’s my cool story, bro.  Your team lost and you’re angry, it’s cool.

[Ghost01Participant]

Actually i picked Miami in 6, and said the Bulls had no chance if they didnt go up 2-0.

"Neither of them had enough help to win a ring, except the one year when Shaq wasn’t decayed yet."

Your stupidity astonishes me. Wade won the title. He had Shaq o Neal in his prime for 2 years. He had help. lebron didnt. The difference between Lebron + Rose is that Rose plays in Chicago. A place FA’s actually want to go to. Im not even arguing that its going to be hard for Chicago to vastly improve the team, but saying that Wade and Lebron went through the same thing and Rose is guaranteed to do the same is just dumb.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

There’s a reason I’ve never heard of you on this site.

Free agents really want to go to Chicago?  Tell me why they couldn’t sign a good free agent their entire franchise existence when Jordan and Rose didn’t play there.  Tell me, I’m listening.

Shaq was no where near his prime, there’s a reason the trade was Shaq for Odom and Butler.  Do you really believe that a top 5 center of all time in his prime will be traded for Odom and Bulter?  Get real.

When did I ever say it was for certain Rose was going to go through the same thing?  I simply said, Wade and LeBron never had a legit 2nd option on the perimeter, which is a fact.

When did I ever say Wade NEVER had anyhelp?  I said perimeter help.

Reread my stuff before you try me.

[Ghost01Participant]

Oh shyyyt, you havent heard of me? Well clearly, nbadraft.net is the most comprehensive location for basketball knowledge and people without great notoriety on this site clearly cant know anything about basketball!

"When did I ever say it was for certain Rose was going to go through the same thing?"

Right Here…"

"3 years from now he is going to be a beast once his shot is better and he gets a legit 2nd option on on the perimeter."

That’s what everybody said about LeBron and Wade. They never got that legit 2nd option on the perimeter…"

Are you trying to argue you are not implying that Rose would go through the same thing? Thats fine if you wanna cover your behind with it, but you are really misleading your "readers".

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When did I ever say Wade NEVER had anyhelp? I said perimeter help."

Sorry for me not understanding this. See, I live in a world where if you get help, you get help. If the Bulls say, in a crazy alternative universe straight up traded Noah for Dwight Howard, i would argue they would have more than enough help, still with Bogans/Brewer/Korver playing the 2. Thats fine. Technically, you are right. And technically, i dont care. Because its a dumb argument to begin with. Wade was given Shaq on a platter. Everyone knew that team was a contender from Day 1, even before Wade had played his 2nd season and no one saw the explosion of the 2006 finals happening. Lebron played with 11 shmucks in Cleveland for 7 years, and almost carried that team, on his back, to a title. Rose is somewhere in between the two. He doesnt have the 2nd option that truly makes the team a championship team, but he does have quality players beyond what LBJ had in Cleveland. Next time you try to argue a point, leave your lame website credibility that was probably built off you posting lame links and agreeing with what everyone says so they like you. When you get your high school diploma, maybe you will learn how to have a big boy conversation. But for now, keep acting like Chicago has the same chance at snagging free agencts as Cleveland did.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Implying and directling saying "Rose will never have help" are two different things.

I said no perimeter help, not help in general. 

Reread my posts before you make such invalid arguments.

 

Argument ended.

[Ghost01Participant]

"Implying and directling saying "Rose will never have help" are two different things."

Yes they are, one of them lets you say something without having to defend it if its wrong. The other makes you have to defend it if its wrong.

Thanks for ending the argument by making absolutely no points and saying you are right. Thats usually the best way to do it.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

"Thanks for ending the argument by making absolutely no points and saying you are right."

Never said I was right.  Show me where I said it.

And this is why I ended the debate.  It’s pointless to argue with someone who continues to twist my words, change meaning to my phrases, and continues to put words in my mouth.

[B EazyParticipant]

 Shut up fags

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