[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

This is just a hypothetical I guess, but I want to know what people here think the Grizzlies should do. Zach is making 17.9 million this year, and I am guessing his contract would more than likely start at about 10 million (under the current CBA, if not more) and increase by the standard 12.5%. The deal would also be for I am guessing about 3-5 years. Zach would be 30 at the start of next season, and I am guessing he is not going to reach some higher level as a player.

The Pro’s: He is a great low post scorer, very talented and incredibly hard to defend. He is pretty much good for a double double on most nights and is one of the better offensive rebounders in the league. He is also coming off of an All-Star season and also a season where he was a big part of a much improved Memphis team that was close to making the play-offs. Even though I felt his effort dropped off significantly after he signed his last contract, he still was good for anywhere in the neighborhood of around 18-23 points and 10-11 boards for most every season he played.

The Con’s: His defense has always been subpar at best. One of my friends used to say "Who cares if he scores 25 when he gives up 30." He also has been the "leader" of teams who for the most part, have not made the play-offs. Also, I have no idea what is up with his off the court issues, but I still do not remember a final resolution to what happened with him this past summer that had him even being involved in trade talks. As I said before, I felt like he was in the best shape of his life right before he signed his last deal, and that he did not keep working as hard as he could once he had made his money. What are the odds he actually lives up to the deal he signs? Plus, will he maintain his ability or decline greatly, not just by aging but by not putting in the work once he has what he wants?

Zach has a great skill set, soft hands and is one of the harder post players to defend in the league. That being said, I know I did not rank him in my top 10 PF’s in the league, though he is close. I just can not justify him being part of them when I think he only plays hard on one side of the court. It may not be as black and white as that, but it has been a constant remark when it comes to Z-Bo. Memphis has given guys a ton of money (Gay, Conley, more than likely Mayo/Gasol), but I would try to find an alternative to re-signing Zach Randolph. It of course depends on how much he wants and how long of a term the deal is, but if you are looking to build a real long term contending team in Memphis, it might be time to look for either a different option at PF, or even some more depth. Who knows what the plan is with Thabeet, but if you are going to play he and Gasol together eventually, than maybe just trade for depth in the post.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Being a Grizzlies fan,i was kind of shocked to see them pay Conley..When Zack should’ve been taken care of 1st..

Owner Micheal Heisley said he wants Z-Bo on the team and  will resign him..Many fans thought he was lying when he said he was going to resign Rudy Gay and Rudy got his deal..

ZBO has said he’s willing to take a paycut in the 12 to 15 million a year range in order to stay in Memphis..He told a reporter that he feels at home there…

The Grizzlies problems are they’re still a poor outside shooting team..And that they struggle trying to play transition defense and ZBO & Gasol often get beat on pick & rolls…Even though Conley have improved his game..His defense is still subpar..Conley often gamble trying to make steals instead keeping his man in front of him..

Rudy learned alot playing with TEAM USA.His assists total is up ,e’s acting like a leader on the floor and his defense is a little better than it was in the past ..When he would trail his man…

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Being a Grizzlies fan,i was kind of shocked to see them pay Conley..When Zack should’ve been taken care of 1st..

Owner Micheal Heisley said he wants Z-Bo on the team and  will resign him..Many fans thought he was lying when he said he was going to resign Rudy Gay and Rudy got his deal..

ZBO has said he’s willing to take a paycut in the 12 to 15 million a year range in order to stay in Memphis..He told a reporter that he feels at home there…

The Grizzlies problems are they’re still a poor outside shooting team..And that they struggle trying to play transition defense and ZBO & Gasol often get beat on pick & rolls…Even though Conley have improved his game..His defense is still subpar..Conley often gamble trying to make steals instead keeping his man in front of him..

Rudy learned alot playing with TEAM USA.His assists total is up ,e’s acting like a leader on the floor and his defense is a little better than it was in the past ..When he would trail his man…

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Being a Grizzlies fan,i was kind of shocked to see them pay Conley..When Zack should’ve been taken care of 1st..

Owner Micheal Heisley said he wants Z-Bo on the team and  will resign him..Many fans thought he was lying when he said he was going to resign Rudy Gay and Rudy got his deal..

ZBO has said he’s willing to take a paycut in the 12 to 15 million a year range in order to stay in Memphis..He told a reporter that he feels at home there…

The Grizzlies problems are they’re still a poor outside shooting team..And that they struggle trying to play transition defense and ZBO & Gasol often get beat on pick & rolls…Even though Conley have improved his game..His defense is still subpar..Conley often gamble trying to make steals instead keeping his man in front of him..

Rudy learned alot playing with TEAM USA.His assists total is up ,e’s acting like a leader on the floor and his defense is a little better than it was in the past ..When he would trail his man…

[sacphil_08Participant]

i personally wouldnt resign him because i think hed be the prime example of one of those guys who would get a pretty nice extension and begin to really decline halfway through the extension. i would go after someone else. perhaps jeff green??? yeah their front line is very slow and transition defense will be an issue with those guys as your bigs. gasol is exceptional and maybe a guy like jeff green could add an athletic dimension to their front line. although he and rudy gay have similar playing styles except rudy is a better shooter and ball handler. the conley signing surprised the hell out of me too. they need a combo guy who can handle a good amount of the ball handling responsiblities since mayo isnt the perfect point guard to offset that issue

[sacphil_08Participant]

i personally wouldnt resign him because i think hed be the prime example of one of those guys who would get a pretty nice extension and begin to really decline halfway through the extension. i would go after someone else. perhaps jeff green??? yeah their front line is very slow and transition defense will be an issue with those guys as your bigs. gasol is exceptional and maybe a guy like jeff green could add an athletic dimension to their front line. although he and rudy gay have similar playing styles except rudy is a better shooter and ball handler. the conley signing surprised the hell out of me too. they need a combo guy who can handle a good amount of the ball handling responsiblities since mayo isnt the perfect point guard to offset that issue

[sacphil_08Participant]

i personally wouldnt resign him because i think hed be the prime example of one of those guys who would get a pretty nice extension and begin to really decline halfway through the extension. i would go after someone else. perhaps jeff green??? yeah their front line is very slow and transition defense will be an issue with those guys as your bigs. gasol is exceptional and maybe a guy like jeff green could add an athletic dimension to their front line. although he and rudy gay have similar playing styles except rudy is a better shooter and ball handler. the conley signing surprised the hell out of me too. they need a combo guy who can handle a good amount of the ball handling responsiblities since mayo isnt the perfect point guard to offset that issue

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I rather rather have Zack Randolph over Jeff Green..

ZBO offers you a double double and solid post play every nite…

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I rather rather have Zack Randolph over Jeff Green..

ZBO offers you a double double and solid post play every nite…

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I rather rather have Zack Randolph over Jeff Green..

ZBO offers you a double double and solid post play every nite…

[paint intruderParticipant]

If I was the GM, I would resign him, if he showed me the right attitude But if he demands too much money I would drop him because there’s still an evolving Rudy Gay, a shot-hungry O.J. Mayo and another very solid post prensence in Marc Gasol. Now add Darrell Arthur, who’s becoming a servicable role player, to that mix and Hasheem Thabeet. That makes Randolph almost expendable.

[paint intruderParticipant]

If I was the GM, I would resign him, if he showed me the right attitude But if he demands too much money I would drop him because there’s still an evolving Rudy Gay, a shot-hungry O.J. Mayo and another very solid post prensence in Marc Gasol. Now add Darrell Arthur, who’s becoming a servicable role player, to that mix and Hasheem Thabeet. That makes Randolph almost expendable.

[paint intruderParticipant]

If I was the GM, I would resign him, if he showed me the right attitude But if he demands too much money I would drop him because there’s still an evolving Rudy Gay, a shot-hungry O.J. Mayo and another very solid post prensence in Marc Gasol. Now add Darrell Arthur, who’s becoming a servicable role player, to that mix and Hasheem Thabeet. That makes Randolph almost expendable.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

I would not want to sign Jeff Green instead of Z-Bo either, at least not as my PF. I do not at all like the sound of Rudy Gay-Jeff Green as a forward duo when I am already super sceptical about the same thing with Kevin Durant. At least Zach would grab boards. But Rudeboy, 12-15 million for how long? Also, would you really want him for that much? Do you think they have any chance at being a contender with him playing for that much money? I just do not think it is a good idea personally. I let him bolt to Detroit and try to draft/sign someone in free agency (Preferably both) or trade him for some depth. I think Z-Bo’s time in Memphis will run out, and I also have a feeling that if they do not re-sign him, he will gladly go to the highest bidder. Also, Conley’s contract may have been surprising, but he has played pretty well since signing it, which is a good sign. It is so hard to know how much a player is worth because seemingly all of them make an obscene amount of scrilla, but to me Zach is not worth 12-15 for any long term amount. Short term maybe, but I am guessing he wants security.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

I would not want to sign Jeff Green instead of Z-Bo either, at least not as my PF. I do not at all like the sound of Rudy Gay-Jeff Green as a forward duo when I am already super sceptical about the same thing with Kevin Durant. At least Zach would grab boards. But Rudeboy, 12-15 million for how long? Also, would you really want him for that much? Do you think they have any chance at being a contender with him playing for that much money? I just do not think it is a good idea personally. I let him bolt to Detroit and try to draft/sign someone in free agency (Preferably both) or trade him for some depth. I think Z-Bo’s time in Memphis will run out, and I also have a feeling that if they do not re-sign him, he will gladly go to the highest bidder. Also, Conley’s contract may have been surprising, but he has played pretty well since signing it, which is a good sign. It is so hard to know how much a player is worth because seemingly all of them make an obscene amount of scrilla, but to me Zach is not worth 12-15 for any long term amount. Short term maybe, but I am guessing he wants security.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

I would not want to sign Jeff Green instead of Z-Bo either, at least not as my PF. I do not at all like the sound of Rudy Gay-Jeff Green as a forward duo when I am already super sceptical about the same thing with Kevin Durant. At least Zach would grab boards. But Rudeboy, 12-15 million for how long? Also, would you really want him for that much? Do you think they have any chance at being a contender with him playing for that much money? I just do not think it is a good idea personally. I let him bolt to Detroit and try to draft/sign someone in free agency (Preferably both) or trade him for some depth. I think Z-Bo’s time in Memphis will run out, and I also have a feeling that if they do not re-sign him, he will gladly go to the highest bidder. Also, Conley’s contract may have been surprising, but he has played pretty well since signing it, which is a good sign. It is so hard to know how much a player is worth because seemingly all of them make an obscene amount of scrilla, but to me Zach is not worth 12-15 for any long term amount. Short term maybe, but I am guessing he wants security.

[stanford hoops]

When has zbo ever shown that he will decline in production after a contract?  This would be his third contract right?  He’s had off the court problems but every single coach including izo has said he’s a very hard worker who doesn’t take plays off. So I doubt that his production drops. I’d sign him. As far as his defense he actually gives up a players average or below when guarding the player. I think most people hear things and run with it instead of actually looking it up for there selves.  

Example is my man Kobe. Great one on one defender but tends to roam a lil and ends up giving up more points from his man then he should. Alot of people don’t realize that they just hear someone say he’s a lock down defender and they go with it although it’s only a half truth

[stanford hoops]

When has zbo ever shown that he will decline in production after a contract?  This would be his third contract right?  He’s had off the court problems but every single coach including izo has said he’s a very hard worker who doesn’t take plays off. So I doubt that his production drops. I’d sign him. As far as his defense he actually gives up a players average or below when guarding the player. I think most people hear things and run with it instead of actually looking it up for there selves.  

Example is my man Kobe. Great one on one defender but tends to roam a lil and ends up giving up more points from his man then he should. Alot of people don’t realize that they just hear someone say he’s a lock down defender and they go with it although it’s only a half truth

[stanford hoops]

When has zbo ever shown that he will decline in production after a contract?  This would be his third contract right?  He’s had off the court problems but every single coach including izo has said he’s a very hard worker who doesn’t take plays off. So I doubt that his production drops. I’d sign him. As far as his defense he actually gives up a players average or below when guarding the player. I think most people hear things and run with it instead of actually looking it up for there selves.  

Example is my man Kobe. Great one on one defender but tends to roam a lil and ends up giving up more points from his man then he should. Alot of people don’t realize that they just hear someone say he’s a lock down defender and they go with it although it’s only a half truth

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