Would you pull the trigger on this 2k trade???
Bulls trade Luol Deng and Marquis Teague to the Toronto Raptors
Sixers trade Andre Iguadola and a 2013 second round pick to the Chicago Bulls
Raptors trade Jose Calderon, Ed Davis and a future 1st round pick(top 5 protected) to the Philadelphia 76ers...
The Sixers are the biggest loser IMO but they'd set themselves very nicely in 2013, they'd have Max cap room with Calderon, N.Young and D.Wright taking more than 20 million off the books, they may also get a very draft pick by losing their best player...
The Raps get their SF and can play Derozon and Ross at the Sg and have Fields play Sg/Sf off the bench...Teague would give them a Bayless replacement/young Pg to develop...
The Bulls would get a home town guy and All Star Sf with elite defense and play making ability, but he play better defnse them\n Deng and could help create some offnese for his team mates
Don't see why the Bulls would pull the trigger on this, Iggy is a great player by all means, but he averages 12 points per game. Deng fits in perfectly in Chicago's system, yes Iggy's defense would be great in Thibb's system, however the Bulls need Dengs scoring, and their defense is already among the tops in the league, and plus they have to give up a young guy with potential, I don't see Chicago really considering it.
For the Sixers, it's an odd deal, all you have to give up is Iggy and you get a 10 and 8 pg and a young PF that can grab boards in Davis. but he problem is that they have no use for Calderon and his contract, and who know's how good that pick is gonna be. I think they can get a little better for Iggy.
The only team this makes sense for is Toronto, because you already have a logjam up front, you trade away Davis, and you get rid of Calderon's contrat(although I think it's expiring) and you add Deng to an already solid core. They also don't need Calderon because they now have Lowry. And that pick would be at teh earliest 2015 becaus they've already traded away their 2013 pick and by that time I belive they'll be a somewhat respectable team.
I think the Bulls are shopping Luol Deng and have been upset at his decision to play Olympic Basketball as opposed to getting a very neccesary wrist surgery...They also just signed Nate Robison and Kirk Hinrich, Teague won't see the floor for his entire rookie contract in Chicago, that's the harsh truth, when Rose gets back, Teague will become the 4th Pg in tyhe depth chart, i don't care about potential when you are the 4th player on the team's depth chart for your position...
The Raps don't want or need Calderon's expire contract...they cant get many free agents to take them seriously in July, and they are better off flipping Jose and Ed Davis for Luol Deng and a rookie Pg...
The Sixers would be in Cap cutting mode, they Amnestied Brand and let Lou Williams walk, they also went after Nick Young and Dorrel Wright for year deals, they also signed Hawes and Lavot Allen to very reasonable 2 year deals...If they let Iggy go for an expiring contract like Calderon(who would be an awesome backup Pg BTW) they would set themselves up with max cap space and be able to add a superstar to their roster next summer, and they could have a high draft pick because losing all that talent and veteran leadership will come back to hurt them in the standings ...This is a Cap saving/high draft pick in 2013 type of deal for Philly
Get where you're coming from, yet at the same time I disagree.
Yes the Bulls are shopping Deng, and are furious at him for playing in the olympics on that bad wrist of his(he's had issues with that thing for a while) but I don't think they'll deal him essentially straight up for Iggy. Both of them have about the same money due to them fro the next two years,(assuming Iggy picks up his 2014 15 mil option, which he almost certainly will) but dealing Deng for Iggy would be a spitefull move by Reinsdorf. Iggy is a fine player but he is going to be 29 in Janruary, and although he's still relatively young, he's a guy that relies on his athleticism, and has declined the past couple years. Deng has been the 2nd option on the Bulls the past two years, and although Andre was sort of the go-to guy in Philly, the Bulls don't have all of the complimentry guys that the 76ers have whom they rely on to score. With Rose out for most of next season, who's gonna be the primary scorer on that team? Boozer? I really don't like this deal for Chicago.
Chicago would love to dump Deng for a better contract(Iggy could opt out of that last year and resign with Chicago, which is his home town team, for a better longterm deal for both parties...)
Imagine Rose and Iguadola running the break...Noah, Boozer, Gibson, Hamilton, Hinrich and Nate Robinson will be fine role players around them...They could Amnesty Boozer next summer and add a Sg or Pf through Free Agency or the draft...
The Sixer lose the most talent, as Calderon would be a 1 year expiring deal, and Ed Davis would be more of a project Pf or C next to Hawes, Allen, Vucevic and Moultrie, Thad Young slides to the starting Sf spot and Allen, Davis and Moultrie fight it out for the Pf spot...Ideally the Sixers trade Iggy, start Nick Young at Sg, Evan Turner at Sf and Thad Young at Pf(until Davis or Moultrie ascends to the the starting spot)...I'd want both Young's on the bench as instant offense type guys, but I think Turner needs to develop his outside shot a little more to play Sg fulltime, and I'd like Harkless to become to the starting Sf next season...
My Sixers lineup...
J.Holiday, E.Turner, M.Harkless, E.Davis and A.Moultrie
(Lavoy Allen and Nikoli Vucevic)
(Malik Wayns and 2013 draft picks)
(Jose Calderon, Nick Young and Dorrel Wright-20 million dollars total)
(Spencer Hawes and Kwame Brown, good role playing Bigmen with favorable contracts-10 million dollars total)
But here's the thing, let's plan for the 2014 season, even if you amnesty Booz you still have 57 mil on the payroll with Iggy, Rose, and Noah. We can't assume that Iggy would opt out of 15 million and take a significant paycut, although I would agree that it is sort of likely that he'd want to lock up a long term deal a year early, but even if he were to opt out and sign a long term deal, he'd be looking for a rather hefty deal in the neighborhood of around of 4 years 40 million, too much for a guy that would at that time be into his 30s and relies on his athleticism.
Now if he opts in, you have Rose on the books for 18 mil, Iggy on the books for 15 mil, Noah for 11 mil, now if they amnesty Booz they get rid of his hefty sum, but htat's still 44 mil for 3 guys. Hamilton's final year is non-garunteed, you add in 4 mil for Hinrich, 4-5 mil for bottom of the roster guys, and a 1.1 mil team option for Jimmy Butler. If they don't pick up Butler's option that would leave you at 53 million of cap, with the salary cap at 58 mil. But remember, Gibson is a Free Agent next off-season as well, and he's sure to get an Asik-esque poison-pilled contract. If they sign Gibson, than they don't have any money to spend, and even if they let Gibsdon walk, you only have 5 million to work with. If Iggy opts out and signs a long term deal around 10 mil per year, than I could see how this could work, and that would leave them with 10 mil to offer to a second tier free agent. I don't see Iggy just opting out of his contract to test the market, that's too risky, so best case scenario is that they go into the 2014 season with Rose, Iggy, Noah, Nate Robinson, a couple other minimum contract guys, and whoever they can get with 10 million, and they'd have to let Gibson walk. I really don't see this working though.
And as much as I love Nate Robinson, even with Rose there, Robinson and Iggy running the break as your 2nd and 3rd best offensive players is definatly not what you'd want for a team that wants to contend. This deal isn't terrible, but it just doesn't work in my opinion.
Moultrie and harkless are nowhere near ready to being starters
a Moultrie Davis front court is unlikely.
Collins said it would be Brown and Hawes
But it should probably be Allen Vucevic